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in undergrad there was this french dude that hung out with some friends of mine and we'd always ask him stupid poo poo "what do you guys call french kissing over there" "uh its just kissing i guess" "wow you do that all the time? what a world"
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cinci zoo sniper posted:in their defence, i still remember the cabbage-sized brioche bun with dark chocolate which i had for breakfast that day. le ouis do know their poo poo in the kitchen, extremely so what’s one cabbage size in freedom unit tho
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Dec 17, 2021 01:46
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CarForumPoster posted:what’s one cabbage size in freedom unit tho an idaho potato pumped with 2 gill of water
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cinci zoo sniper posted:an idaho potato pumped with 2 gill of water how many McDonald’s fries is that
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just did my first proper tech screen with live coding the upside was that i got asked a leetcode question that i had helpfully prepped very recently, the downside was that i remembered the O(n) algorithm but not exactly why it worked lmao Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Dec 17, 2021 |
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Dec 17, 2021 15:17
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cinci zoo sniper posted:french positions have consistently offered me the worst salaries french computer salaries are absolute garbage and lots of remote companies won't touch you if you live there. I eventually found a remote one that paid OK, they're getting murdered by the taxes and intermediaries though. I only see like 40% of my total salary cost in take home (which is totally fine really, just hard to swallow compared to elsewhere)
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humbling to have an interview go in a way that I thought was extremely good and then be told they're not proceeding. mostly wondering why I would come out of it with the wrong impression. landing on they probably just hired another candidate and it's not about me. received a surprisingly, pleasingly personalized recruiter email last night -- from an AI-powered CRM company so I guess good job you have a good product!
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Dec 17, 2021 19:27
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someone else was just better or cheaper, most likely
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Dec 17, 2021 19:29
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zombienietzsche posted:humbling to have an interview go in a way that I thought was extremely good and then be told they're not proceeding. mostly wondering why I would come out of it with the wrong impression. landing on they probably just hired another candidate and it's not about me. at that point it’s probably good to just ask. it’s fairly unlikely that they have a super different opinion of you than you had from the interview, so just ask imo. no worst case scenario there
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Dec 17, 2021 19:57
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pointsofdata posted:french computer salaries are absolute garbage and lots of remote companies won't touch you if you live there. I eventually found a remote one that paid OK, they're getting murdered by the taxes and intermediaries though. I only see like 40% of my total salary cost in take home (which is totally fine really, just hard to swallow compared to elsewhere) in NL you get basically 50% take home of the cost to company. maybe people avoid France because better worker protections?
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Dec 17, 2021 19:58
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gross salary figures in france are bad as well, it’s not take-home portion that’s the problem really - a position with the same requirements in paris and berlin is 60k vs 120k
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Dec 17, 2021 20:01
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zombienietzsche posted:humbling to have an interview go in a way that I thought was extremely good and then be told they're not proceeding. mostly wondering why I would come out of it with the wrong impression. landing on they probably just hired another candidate and it's not about me. if you're getting nerd hazed you're being seriously considered for the position. but every interview-for-the-sake-of-interviewing from a fuckwad company feels breezy. so feeling like you did great on an interview i find a surprisingly negative sign for whether you actually did great on the interview
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Dec 17, 2021 20:05
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cinci zoo sniper posted:gross salary figures in france are bad as well, it’s not take-home portion that’s the problem really - a position with the same requirements in paris and berlin is 60k vs 120k wtf france
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Dec 17, 2021 20:11
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cinci zoo sniper posted:gross salary figures in france are bad as well, it’s not take-home portion that’s the problem really - a position with the same requirements in paris and berlin is 60k vs 120k and living in Berlin is arguably way better than Paris too, so there’s that
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Dec 17, 2021 20:31
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zombienietzsche posted:llanding on they probably just hired another candidate and it's not about me. it's this. i crushed an interview with pocket a few years ago, right after mozilla acquired them. they went with an internal mozilla person who had a ton of experience with privacy for data pipelines, which i didn't. ain't nothing i can do about that no matter how well the interview went. there was only one open spot, and the more suited candidate got it
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Dec 17, 2021 20:38
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still good to ask in this scenario tho. it’s a fair reason to go with another candidate, and if you’ve asked and got this reason it’s also less of a confidence ding
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Dec 17, 2021 20:40
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I just got a rejection cos I didn’t have enough day to day Golang experience for what this team wants which is true and fine, can still apply elsewhere in the company which is nice and I probably will
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Dec 17, 2021 20:42
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bob dobbs is dead posted:but every interview-for-the-sake-of-interviewing from a fuckwad company feels breezy ha yeah (and maybe that happened with me- recruiter said it was a hard choice, but if it was just a for-looks interview they wouldn't tell me that 🤷♀️). you get this poo poo in academia all the time where they'll open up a job but there's no actual chance for anyone other than the pre-selected person to get it. it sucks. at least in computer-touching there's more than enough jobs to go around so it's just mildly annoying
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Dec 17, 2021 20:42
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made it through all the tech screens and now i'm having a team matching meeting next week. things are looking good for a surprise holiday gift to myself 
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Dec 17, 2021 20:43
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champagne posting posted:wtf france my only explanation is that french have their own linkedin (like germans with xing but more ubiquitous) where all the good french job postings go, so the remaining pittance of international positions in paris gets devoured upon publishing the other option is that they just like living with literally less spending cash than comparable latvian specialists do in domestic environment
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Dec 17, 2021 20:47
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:and living in Berlin is arguably way better than Paris too, so there’s that yeah, berlin is a solid tier 1 city for young specialist - a larger amsterdam that’s a bit less accessible in english, but way more affordable. and you no longer even have to use the clown airport
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Dec 17, 2021 20:49
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:at that point it’s probably good to just ask. you can ask but don’t be surprised at no response I replied to these when I started interviewing and roughly 50% of the people asking just want a chance to tell you how you’re wrong for passing on them or be total dickheads in some way. after a couple of those I quit giving interview feedback and started posting in the BFC resume thread more
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if you're getting nerd hazed you're being seriously considered for the position. but every interview-for-the-sake-of-interviewing from a fuckwad company feels breezy. so feeling like you did great on an interview i find a surprisingly negative sign for whether you actually did great on the interview yep, if the interviewers are putting serious effort into you then it means that you passed the requirement for the role and they are really trying to figure out what your limits are. if it gets easy then they’ve basically already implicitly decided they’re not going to extend an offer and have fallen back to being friendly until the end of the interview. it’s not always like that, but honestly it’s more often than not.
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the worst is when you can’t even get enough out of the interviewee to coast to the end.
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qhat posted:yep, if the interviewers are putting serious effort into you then it means that you passed the requirement for the role and they are really trying to figure out what your limits are. if it gets easy then they’ve basically already implicitly decided they’re not going to extend an offer and have fallen back to being friendly until the end of the interview. it’s not always like that, but honestly it’s more often than not. During the interview for my current job, they said, "We have a little programming test for you." and busted out FizzBuzz. I totally expected a harder question, but they didn't have anything else for me. This is because the only programmer there was my predecessor, who was (and probably still is) terrible. I wonder what that guy's up to. I always wanted to be a fly on the wall whenever he actually worked in a team environment and had to do advanced concepts like "write a test" and "use an IDE".
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CarForumPoster posted:you can ask but don’t be surprised at no response depends on the company, i suppose. maybe this is a US thing with liability nonsense? at least in my company (EU) we are happy to provide feedback on bad candidates. obviously since they aren't great we aren't super extensive about it (we also have a fairly low bar, so if you're below our bar, you're not the best candidate) qhat posted:if it gets easy then they’ve basically already implicitly decided they’re not going to extend an offer and have fallen back to being friendly until the end of the interview.  when i interview candidates that aren't so good then i do the same and just coast until the end of the interview, keep it friendly and politely answer questions, i won't go over time or bother asking really hard stuff if i dont like the candidate.PIZZA.BAT posted:the worst is when you can’t even get enough out of the interviewee to coast to the end. this is the best worst-case scenario imo, since you at least don't have to spend the full allotted time. better to realise you're done and no fit and wrap it up early.
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on wednesday I reached out to first company, asked the recruiter what the hangup was and he said "it's not a no" they were looking for some very specific web dev skills and have to show they tried to find a candidate. no idea how long that's going to take and not betting anything on that actually going through in my favor still nothing on the second one either so back to the application grind. gently caress
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aeflux posted:on wednesday I reached out to first company, asked the recruiter what the hangup was and he said "it's not a no" they were looking for some very specific web dev skills and have to show they tried to find a candidate. no idea how long that's going to take and not betting anything on that actually going through in my favor tell them to poo poo or get off the pot that poo poo works, companies suffer just as much from fomo as the rest of us
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PSA for EU yosposers: check out independent dayrate contracting. I’m tallying up my hours for the year and I worked 1100 hours this year and taking home ~€65k post tax.
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Kernel Sanders posted:PSA for EU yosposers: check out independent dayrate contracting. I’m tallying up my hours for the year and I worked 1100 hours this year and taking home ~€65k post tax. how do you find clients and stuff? the money from consulting seems nice but finding clients seems like a big hassle honestly
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:how do you find clients and stuff? the money from consulting seems nice but finding clients seems like a big hassle honestly I clicked the check box on linkedin that says I'm open to opportunities and then the box that said contracts and I get so many calls (none of them french) edit: also my company pre-tax income for this year is going to be around 825k DKK and I only started contracting in April
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:how do you find clients and stuff? the money from consulting seems nice but finding clients seems like a big hassle honestly i get almost all my work though consultant brokers. they take a 5-10% cut of my invoices, but on the other hand all I have to do when I want an assignment is send out a mail with “hey, available from XYZ, rate ZYX” and within a week or so I have a 3-12 month assignment locked down.
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Kernel Sanders posted:PSA for EU yosposers: check out independent dayrate contracting. I’m tallying up my hours for the year and I worked 1100 hours this year and taking home ~€65k post tax. is “independent dayrate contracting” a specific term?
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Kernel Sanders posted:i get almost all my work though consultant brokers. they take a 5-10% cut of my invoices, but on the other hand all I have to do when I want an assignment is send out a mail with “hey, available from XYZ, rate ZYX” and within a week or so I have a 3-12 month assignment locked down. 
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What's the office/remote working situation like? Do most of them require you to be local (or in country) or is it easy to find remote contracts?
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Kernel Sanders posted:i get almost all my work though consultant brokers. they take a 5-10% cut of my invoices, but on the other hand all I have to do when I want an assignment is send out a mail with “hey, available from XYZ, rate ZYX” and within a week or so I have a 3-12 month assignment locked down. It also feels like contractors poach each other when they move jobs way more than permies and that's a great source of work too, but that might be my imagination.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:is “independent dayrate contracting” a specific term? probably not, I just don’t like the terms “consultant” (implies expert level knowledge which is not necessary) and “freelancer” (forever tied to “cheap and crappy” thanks to upwork)
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pointsofdata posted:What's the office/remote working situation like? Do most of them require you to be local (or in country) or is it easy to find remote contracts? I’ve been at the clients office a total of 8 times since March 2020
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Kernel Sanders posted:probably not, I just don’t like the terms “consultant” (implies expert level knowledge which is not necessary) and “freelancer” (forever tied to “cheap and crappy” thanks to upwork) that’s fair. yea the money for doing stuff on 3-6 month contracts looks quite good. im not a fan of the short durations and try to just find longer term stuff myself, but, e.g., this month i had like 2 or 3 700 eur/day postings fly by me. unfortunately people send me data engineering/mlops poo poo because i guess everyone sees that im a data scientist who can code and has no math phd - thus i must be an swe really horny for janitoring airflow or something
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cinci zoo sniper posted:that’s fair. yea the money for doing stuff on 3-6 month contracts looks quite good. im not a fan of the short durations and try to just find longer term stuff myself, but, e.g., this month i had like 2 or 3 700 eur/day postings fly by me. unfortunately people send me data engineering/mlops poo poo because i guess everyone sees that im a data scientist who can code and has no math phd - thus i must be an swe really horny for janitoring airflow or something yeah, unfortunately while the brokers are better than regular ol recruiters, their understanding of what they’re peddling stops at the first or maybe second tier of the tech stack (I’m very happy if they can tell me if it’s .NET Core vs .NET Framework). i usually try to shoot for 3-6 months because it gives me an easy out if the assignment sucks and if it’s good it’s pretty easy to get an extension
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