mossyfisk posted:There's a bunch of Minbari in the dockers guild, maybe they prefer loading ships to being a harmonious peasant, or they want to live outside of their caste prescriptions. Hopefully, when the time comes to return to homeworld, they'll bring the bizarre Earth concept of the labor union.
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s01e14 - By Any Means Necessary
Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 26, 2021 |
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Powered Descent posted:s01e14 - By Any Means Necessary You are trying to make sense of religion
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s01e15 - The Quality of Mercy
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Powered Descent posted:s01e15 - The Quality of Mercy Look closely at the courtroom scene with her and you'll see Mumy out of makeup in the background.
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Action Jacktion posted:Look closely at the courtroom scene with her and you'll see Mumy out of makeup in the background. Yay!
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Powered Descent posted:s01e15 - The Quality of Mercy It really is. It's like something out of a bad Doctor Who episode. You see it in a lot of bad sci-fi and it's always just the writers throwing their hands up and using "MAGIC SPACE MEDICINE!" to handwave their way through a plot they got bored of writing.
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Powered Descent posted:s01e15 - The Quality of Mercy It's probably a well-known fact among the ambassadors who actually give a poo poo.
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Just finished S2: lmao this show just murdered the idea of subtext with a rusty knife I'm still loling. Lawman 0 fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Dec 28, 2021 |
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s01e16 - Grail
s01e17 - Eyes
And one other (general) thing that's just occurred to me: Every single shot of the entire show so far has been in space. The camera hasn't gone down to a planet even once. That's kind of remarkable.
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Powered Descent posted:s01e17 - Eyes Less than you might think, and possibly nothing. The WB had three new genre shows in the 1993 slate - Babylon 5, Time Trax and Kung Fu: The Legend Continues - and the network promoted all three shows with a competition where the top prize was a Kawasaki bike. Thus, the bike had to appear in all three shows. This was no problem for the other two as they were set in 1993, but B5 was more of a problem. There were definitely rewrites involved, as Eyes was the last episode of S1 to be produced, but I don't know if Kawasaki insisted that their bike appeared in space or if it was the WB's idea.
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Powered Descent posted:
Apparently this was the actor's choice. He was going through some personal stuff and used the over the top acting as a coping mechanism.
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s01e18 - TKO
e: What the hell is the deal with this Nazi-looking thing on the wall? Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 29, 2021 |
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Powered Descent posted:
That's Garibaldi, the chief of security for B5.
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The genius of B5 is that even the worst episodes have something of value. The episode where Ivanova confronts the fact that she hasn't properly mourned her father and is one of the most authentically Jewish things to have even been on TV this side of Seinfeld is the same episode as the Kumite: Blood Sport homage complete with an H-list Van Damage stand-in. Which one is good and which one is bad, I leave as an exercise for the viewer.
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A lot of people think TKO is the worst B5 episode so if you enjoyed it you should be smooth sailing from now on. I'm personally with you, I don't think it's that bad and the Ivanova story is good any way you slice it.
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Boom shakalakalaka three bags full!
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Powered Descent posted:s01e18 - TKO Not that anyone had ever heard of it.
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Midjack posted:That's Garibaldi, the chief of security for B5. I laughed
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Vitruvian Manic posted:The genius of B5 is that even the worst episodes have something of value. The episode where Ivanova confronts the fact that she hasn't properly mourned her father and is one of the most authentically Jewish things to have even been on TV this side of Seinfeld is the same episode as the Kumite: Blood Sport homage complete with an H-list Van Damage stand-in.
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TKO: The Ivanova stuff is good, but the fighting plot is one of the lamest parts of the entire series. This episode is what people are thinking of when they (wrongly) claim S1 sucks and tell new viewers to skip it.
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Sweevo posted:TKO: The Ivanova stuff is good, but the fighting plot is one of the lamest parts of the entire series. This episode is what people are thinking of when they (wrongly) claim S1 sucks and tell new viewers to skip it. I have to confess, I like this episode.
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Sweevo posted:TKO: The Ivanova stuff is good, but the fighting plot is one of the lamest parts of the entire series. This episode is what people are thinking of when they (wrongly) claim S1 sucks and tell new viewers to skip it. Yeah. But I do think that telling new folks to even skip this episode is just so wrongheaded. I simply can not imagine watching the rest of the series without having seen Ivanova’s half of TKO. It’s just such a critical character moment for her.
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Grand Fromage posted:A lot of people think TKO is the worst B5 episode so if you enjoyed it you should be smooth sailing from now on. I'm personally with you, I don't think it's that bad and the Ivanova story is good any way you slice it. Chevy Slyme posted:Yeah. But I do think that telling new folks to even skip this episode is just so wrongheaded. I simply can not imagine watching the rest of the series without having seen Ivanova’s half of TKO. It’s just such a critical character moment for her. Ivanova's half is kind of like the TNG episode Family -- a pause to let a normally very stoic character process some emotions. I don't mind in the least that there's no threat to the station to be thwarted or mystery to be solved or galaxy-spanning political issue to be untangled. The fighting half is just kind of... there. I didn't hate it, it's not aggressively bad or anything, it's just that it's essentially packing peanuts around the more interesting storyline. Meh.
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The fighting part seems like a concession to suits when they read the treatment for the episode consisting of a lapsed russian jew dealing with her loss of faith and the loss of her father. There seem to be a lot of those kind of tradeoffs for a better story throughout.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Yeah. But I do think that telling new folks to even skip this episode is just so wrongheaded. I simply can not imagine watching the rest of the series without having seen Ivanova’s half of TKO. It’s just such a critical character moment for her. Oh yeah, I'm not saying to skip anything, just that this is what the people who do tell others to skip seem to think all of S1 is like for some reason. Sweevo fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Whenever the boxing bit comes up I just hit the fast forward/skip button. Easy solution.
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Powered Descent posted:e: What the hell is the deal with this Nazi-looking thing on the wall? Midjack posted:That's Garibaldi, the chief of security for B5. But seriously, folks, what is the deal here? My best guess: it's just the color-number-sector designation with an alien symbol in it instead of the number. I have vague recollections of seeing similar signs with different colors around the outside and different symbols but I can't recall exactly where or what episode(s). Is this like "Red 3" in Zorblonian, and no one in the production staff noticed the unfortunate similarity to ?
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Powered Descent posted:
It's an inverted "z" from the Babylon 5 station typeface; I suspect your guess is correct and the color scheme is just an unfortunate coincidence.
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Red for red sector, Z for Zocalo.
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Midjack posted:It's an inverted "z" from the Babylon 5 station typeface; I suspect your guess is correct and the color scheme is just an unfortunate coincidence. Yup, I think so. This is from the next episode in line: It looks much more benign in a different color palette, and with a less... angular symbol. (As for this episode, we got partway into it and then had to pause for unrelated reasons; I'll post my usual full reaction once we're able to finish it.)
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s04e12 – Conflicts of Interest
s04e13 – Rumors, Bargains and Lies
s04e14 – Moments of Transition
s04e15 – No Surrender, No Retreat
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discoukulele posted:s04e12 – Conflicts of Interest Andreas Katsulas is a character actor of wide experience, including multiple roles on Star Trek series. Peter Jurasik is an acting instructor at UNC Wilmington and also has an extensive credits list on IMDB. And yes, they're perfectly cast to play off each other, in the best written roles on the whole show. More than anything else, just on the strength of the performances, Babylon 5 is G'kar and Londo's story.
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G'Kar and Londo certainly stand head and shoulders above everyone else. Both incredible actors with incredible roles. If I were going to pick who the single main character of B5 is, I'd say it's Londo, but yeah him and G'Kar are the core of the show. Which is really interesting to me because the show wants you to think Sheridan is the main character, maybe Sheridan and Delenn, but nah--it's Londo. Everything ultimately revolves around him.
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Honestly, despite how I think by volume there's more Human stories, the very first episode (after the pilot, at least) was a Londo and G'kar story, and that did a whole lot for setting out what kind of show B5 would be and their continuing stories that constantly affect eachother may be the coolest part of the show.
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s04e16 – The Exercise of Vital Power
s04e17 – The Face of the Enemy
s04e18 - Intersections in Real Time Don’t have a whole lot of specific things to say about this one. It was a fascinating episode. I’m really curious to find out what was real and what wasn’t after that ending. s04e19 – Between the Darkness and the Light
s04e20 - Endgame
Anyways that was a fantastic arc of episodes, and I'm looking forward to finishing up the season tomorrow, probably
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s04e21 – Rising Star
s04e22 – The Destruction of Falling Stars
An amazing ending to a fantastic season. I still have a lot to process with that finale. I"m really curious about what exactly season 5 is going to look like, or when it's going to take place. I'm wondering if it's going to be about Sheridan & Delenn's son? I'm also hoping that we get some kind of resolution to what was predicted for Londo and G'Kar. We saw the parasites starting to appear on Centauri Prime, but the whole build-up to Londo getting one never really happened, and we don't know anything about how Sheridan's "crusade" led to the destruction of Centauri Prime. Unless that was supposed to be an alternate future that they diverted from? Anyways, I'm super stoked about starting the new season and I'm so torn on whether to watch the first one tonight or not. e: also, I'd love some more info about Sheridan's vision discoukulele fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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Basically, episode 21 is a lead in to a finale that was shot, because, yeah they didn’t think they’d get a season 5. When season 5 was ordered, they filmed S4 e22 first, and held the s4 finale, which is a true epilogue for the whole series, for after s5. So you’ll see it then. I don’t think it’s a particularly meaningful spoiler to say that it’s set around the decommissioning of the station, 20 years later, so just waiting a year to air it didn’t really affect anything. Season 5 picks up right where season 4 left off before the Deconstruction fast-forward interlude. It’s the story of the first year of the new Alliance, and of Sheridan’s struggles as it’s first president to guide it through that infancy. Chevy Slyme fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Jan 4, 2022 |
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Sweet, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I think that I might actually go ahead and watch Thirdspace and In The Beginning before I start the next season.
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discoukulele posted:Sweet, I'm definitely looking forward to it. I think that I might actually go ahead and watch Thirdspace and In The Beginning before I start the next season. Not a bad idea. It’s a real good time to watch both. Thirdspace is kind of the Monster of the Week episode that Season 4 was so desperately missing because of the Almost-Cancellation panic rush to wrap up all the outstanding arcs. In the Beginning is a nice look at the historical events that you’ve learned about by now from an outsiders perspective.
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