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CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

She was with Tito Ortiz for a while and he's a super chud, so I'm assuming she probably at least leans that way.

Ah, not terribly surprising, I guess.

I was never a fan of hers anyhow. Stormy was more my speed 15 years ago. I still have an autographed copy of Operation Desert Stormy around somewhere, when she toured adult stores and came by the one I worked in.

I should dig that out and see if it's worth anything after all that poo poo with turmp.

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Ive always found it weird that those who could benefit the most from an expansive social safety net can also be the ones who love the idea of no government interference.

Like it makes sense in a really short sighted way that as decently paid salaried computer toucher i personally would like less taxes out pf my check because, barring something extremely dumb my job will be here tommorow and ill be able to perform it unless all my fingers get cut off.

For contractors it seems really stupid because it lessens your bargaining power when the alternative to taking any lovely job with lovely terms is starve in the streets.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
That assumes people will think beyond the short term as well as the individual scope.

Some people are just selfish and shortsighted.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

Ah, not terribly surprising, I guess.

I was never a fan of hers anyhow. Stormy was more my speed 15 years ago. I still have an autographed copy of Operation Desert Stormy around somewhere, when she toured adult stores and came by the one I worked in.

I should dig that out and see if it's worth anything after all that poo poo with turmp.

Ewwww you touched something someone who touched Trump touched.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Defenestrategy posted:

Ive always found it weird that those who could benefit the most from an expansive social safety net can also be the ones who love the idea of no government interference.

Like it makes sense in a really short sighted way that as decently paid salaried computer toucher i personally would like less taxes out pf my check because, barring something extremely dumb my job will be here tommorow and ill be able to perform it unless all my fingers get cut off.

For contractors it seems really stupid because it lessens your bargaining power when the alternative to taking any lovely job with lovely terms is starve in the streets.

But that's a socialism so thought process terminated. Bad word used so thing = bad.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1480946918993936390?t=1YF6ipBl8Ipq-WCqM9a1yw&s=19

Lol forgot Tuberville is a sitting Senator

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Nick Soapdish posted:

Lol forgot Tuberville is a sitting Senator

That’s the reason that the Capitol was overrun a year ago.

Any defense he’s involved with just falls apart.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Platystemon posted:

That’s the reason that the Capitol was overrun a year ago.

Any defense he’s involved with just falls apart.

:nice:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling
1-800-GAMBLER


Ultra Carp

This man beat Doug Jones :negative:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Defenestrategy posted:

Ive always found it weird that those who could benefit the most from an expansive social safety net can also be the ones who love the idea of no government interference.

Like it makes sense in a really short sighted way that as decently paid salaried computer toucher i personally would like less taxes out pf my check because, barring something extremely dumb my job will be here tommorow and ill be able to perform it unless all my fingers get cut off.

For contractors it seems really stupid because it lessens your bargaining power when the alternative to taking any lovely job with lovely terms is starve in the streets.

In addition to being shortsighted, a lot of people are either straight up misinformed. Remember that one of our two main political parties (and their propaganda outlets) have been pushing the idea that "poor people" are simultaneously poor due to their own failings but also that "poor people" aren't real and they're just mooching off of the government, those dirty refrigerator-havers

...and the other one of our main political parties has done largely nothing to actually expand benefits in a way visible to most people. :v:

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
Uh actually I got $1800 from the government.

Wait.

poo poo.

Most of that was Trump.

Well at least I got $1200 on the way from Joe!

Wait.

poo poo...

I saw someone who pays zero attention to politics put it nicely: "Trump stopped student loan payments and gave people $1200. Biden is restarting student loan payments and has given people $600."

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

boop the snoot posted:

I saw someone who pays zero attention to politics put it nicely: "Trump stopped student loan payments and gave people $1200. Biden is restarting student loan payments and has given people $600."

This is a good summary if you do not have any understanding that the child tax credit exists, think $600 = $1400, and do not count unemployment insurance.

The child tax credit is the most important of all of those, IMO.

For the group of people who do not have kids and also are employed, they didn’t personally see a lot of direct stimulus.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD

Defenestrategy posted:

Ive always found it weird that those who could benefit the most from an expansive social safety net can also be the ones who love the idea of no government interference.

Like it makes sense in a really short sighted way that as decently paid salaried computer toucher i personally would like less taxes out pf my check because, barring something extremely dumb my job will be here tommorow and ill be able to perform it unless all my fingers get cut off.

For contractors it seems really stupid because it lessens your bargaining power when the alternative to taking any lovely job with lovely terms is starve in the streets.

A truly staggering amount of people do not understand how only a couple bad days can truly shatter you mentally, physically and financially. Decades of work undone in less time than it takes for UPS to deliver a package.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mlmp08 posted:

This is a good summary if you do not have any understanding that the child tax credit exists, think $600 = $1400, and do not count unemployment insurance.

The child tax credit is the most important of all of those, IMO.

For the group of people who do not have kids and also are employed, they didn’t personally see a lot of direct stimulus.

God I’m gonna miss that child tax credit.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1480967186021707776

87 (+14)

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/status/1480895922699649025

Vaccine mandates work

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005


81 including 5 strokes on the gimmie first hole while I figured out the controls

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

BUT MUH FREEDUMZ! :cry:

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

I have to assume by the wording of that that they still have unvaccinated employees. So how many of them are in the hospital or dying? That's the first thing that anyone even remotely skeptical is going to ask.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


FrozenVent posted:

Ewwww you touched something someone who touched Trump touched.

I shook hands with the prior VP.

:shudder:

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

FrozenVent posted:

Ewwww you touched something someone who touched Trump touched.

This all happened in 2007. I don't think she was on mr toadstools wild ride until after that.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

This is a good summary if you do not have any understanding that the child tax credit exists, think $600 = $1400, and do not count unemployment insurance.

The child tax credit is the most important of all of those, IMO.

For the group of people who do not have kids and also are employed, they didn’t personally see a lot of direct stimulus.

Extended unemployment was originally under Trump, but Biden did extend it more than Trump did. The CTC has a strong possibility of backfiring because the credit was increased less than the advanced payments. Since withholding isn't trivial for a dual income household, the full child tax credit was likely the only thing preventing a lot of parents from owing taxes.

The CTC advance payments are implemented in such a stupid way.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

hobbesmaster posted:

The CTC has a strong possibility of backfiring because the credit was increased less than the advanced payments. Since withholding isn't trivial for a dual income household, the full child tax credit was likely the only thing preventing a lot of parents from owing taxes.

Someone could argue about the structuring of the taxes (I tend to think that the way a LOT of tax credits have existed for years is confusing to people who think they pay so much taxes, but don't realize how much they "get back" at the end of the year is really just a credit). But at the end of the day, if some dual-income households are bad at taxes, that's a small price for putting more money in the hands of parents taking care of kids during weird times like pandemic school closures, uncertain income, daycare non-availability or limited availability/waitlists, etc.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Look some of us just want our child tax credit and unemployment benefits so we can go buy drugs and go hunting thank you.

Seriously I hope the U.S. Navy ship accidentally sinks that yacht one day.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

hobbesmaster posted:

Extended unemployment was originally under Trump, but Biden did extend it more than Trump did. The CTC has a strong possibility of backfiring because the credit was increased less than the advanced payments. Since withholding isn't trivial for a dual income household, the full child tax credit was likely the only thing preventing a lot of parents from owing taxes.

The CTC advance payments are implemented in such a stupid way.

Also as cool as more benefits for people are, what of my friends who opted for pets over children? Where is their tax credit!

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Defenestrategy posted:

Also as cool as more benefits for people are, what of my friends who opted for pets over children? Where is their tax credit!

My bank account because of Monty compared to a bank account after a kid is all the credit I need.

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Good catch Monty!

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

Stravag posted:

Good catch Monty!

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
:mediocre:

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Man I miss that good boy.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Is this really paywalled or am I missing something obvious

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Current Events: I'd boop that snoot

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
No matter what I'll never have to pay for Beatrice's college so there's my credit




Because she's too dumb

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

Milo and POTUS posted:

Is this really paywalled or am I missing something obvious

On desktop I can just click the arrow to get rid of the subscription banner.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
Also 70(-3) but I got 28 Strokes on Maryland :mad:

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

scammers out of Illinois have set up a nationwide chain of at least 300 fake covid test sites that send everyone a negative result and then identity theft them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/07/center-covid-control-testing-americans-describe-long-waits/9133310002/

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

shame on an IGA posted:

scammers out of Illinois have set up a nationwide chain of at least 300 fake covid test sites that send everyone a negative result and then identity theft them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/07/center-covid-control-testing-americans-describe-long-waits/9133310002/

quote:

"The next steps for us really is just going to be keeping a watchful eye on them. We don’t have the authority to close them down. Really all we can do is watch and wait see what happens. This is not an approach we like to take in the field of public health," Parrish said.

this whole situation is one of all too many failings of the usa to handle this pandemic

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016

shame on an IGA posted:

scammers out of Illinois have set up a nationwide chain of at least 300 fake covid test sites that send everyone a negative result and then identity theft them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/01/07/center-covid-control-testing-americans-describe-long-waits/9133310002/

This is the type of obvious outcome that would be the free square on a bingo card.

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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Zamujasa posted:

this whole situation is one of all too many failings of the usa to handle this pandemic

That quote saying they can't do anything sounds like a lie.

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