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30.5 Days posted:https://kotaku.com/xbox-boss-not-interested-in-virtue-shaming-activision-1848334067 Honestly he could have stopped at "I'm not allowed to go into it publicly" but when you give these company types enough rope they just can't help themselves
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30.5 Days posted:https://kotaku.com/xbox-boss-not-interested-in-virtue-shaming-activision-1848334067 His statement to me reads "I wish there were something I could do about this, but this is above my paygrade." I can all but promise that every lawyer he's spoken to had an opinion about how to respond, but they all fell somewhere along the lines of "Play it safe, condem ActiBlizz, but don't make any determinative statements that might come back to bite us in the rear end." This guy and the Xbox brand have very little to gain by crucifying ActiBlizz - and a lot to lose. I agree with this: Magmarashi posted:Honestly he could have stopped at "I'm not allowed to go into it publicly" but when you give these company types enough rope they just can't help themselves but that may have been a little too milquetoast, and this guy wanted to show some solidarity.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 05:14 |
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I dunno, I feel that's giving him too much benefit of the doubt. He also basically said "look, Microsoft sucks too, so who are we to judge?"Phil Spencer posted:“We have changed how we do certain things with them, and they’re aware of that,” he said. “But I also—this isn’t about, for us as Xbox, virtue-shaming other companies. Xbox’s history is not spotless.”
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 05:48 |
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https://www.pcgamer.com/activision-blizzard-women-interviews/ Some quotes from this article that stand out to me: quote:The closer a woman worked with certain "rockstar" developers (who at times could behave with the general arrogance implied by the word, making unreasonable demands or throwing tantrums) and high-level management, the more warnings she'd start to hear from other women, says Iris. The basic warning was: "Watch out for this person if they start drinking." A more specific warning was: "Don't go to anything this person invites you to." After work social events could take unexpected turns, she says. quote:And women who spoke up, whether about unfair treatment or to criticize creative decisions such as oversexualized character designs, had a "target on their back," says Iris. When she criticized a creative decision that had a racist connotation, for example, she says that "opportunities started to plummet" for her. quote:"There are some genuine people in leadership positions" at Activision Blizzard, says Violet. She loved one of the teams she worked on and liked the boss she reported to prior to quitting. But she was not at all shocked by the allegations in the California lawsuit, and doesn't trust executives like Kotick or Townsend to improve the company. quote:In the immediate aftermath of the lawsuit, Violet didn't feel that Blizzard leadership was making a genuine effort to change the company. People were fired, but the email that announced the departures to employees didn't explain why. quote:In October, Kotick said that Activision Blizzard strives to have the "strictest harassment and non-retaliation policies of any employer." Specifics about recent HR investigations that led to the dismissal of 20-plus employees have not been disclosed. quote:Holly joined Blizzard early in her career, and after she left Blizzard for a new job in the game industry, she was astonished by how different it was. "I honestly cannot see anyone doing 90% of the poo poo that went on at Blizzard [at my new company]," she says. Although she didn't directly experience sexual harassment, she heard stories, and says she witnessed drunk coworkers talk about women like "frat bros," a term used in the California lawsuit. quote:In contrast, Holly is much happier with her current compensation, and says that "there's a lot more communication" from the top at her current company. She's hearing a similar story from others who left the company in recent years. quote:The problems that led Holly and the others to leave Blizzard started a long time ago, but Holly says that the reputational collapse that led to today started around the time of BlizzCon 2018, which included the infamous Diablo Immortal announcement. That BlizzCon was demoralizing, she says, and the sense that Blizzard was a "cool game company" where everyone was "family" started to crack.
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genovefa fedelmid posted:I'd also like to know who these good bosses are, tbh. Well we already know one of them, Jeff "tigole bitties" Kaplan
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 10:49 |
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Yeah Kaplan had a reputation for sticking up for his team. Sadly I suspect he either was forced out or got tired of the constant fight.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 11:16 |
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Eej posted:Well we already know one of them, Jeff "tigole bitties" Kaplan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMDItOwN_SU Every time I see him mentioned in this thread there’s the brief flash of fear that he turns out to have been involved in the ActiBlizzard shitshow. I hope not, I always enjoyed his interactions with the community.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 11:23 |
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Real Cool Catfish posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMDItOwN_SU Ironic indeed that the guy who used to have the handle 'Tigole Bitties' was one of the few 'rockstar' developers who actually grew up and behaved like a reasonable person.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 11:46 |
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Lol I assumed 'Tigole' was french.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 11:53 |
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loving lol that the Blizzcon announcement of a phone game was even more disastrous internally than externally.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 12:22 |
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https://kotaku.com/riot-games-offers-resignation-bonuses-as-company-announ-1848348892 So Riot are offering 25% of annual salary, 3 months subsidized health benefits and other stuff if folks quit currently. I'm not sure which way this will go. Like you're probably gonna get both folks who don't trust them to commit to change and folks upset Riot wants to change at all.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 12:42 |
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Mokinokaro posted:Yeah Kaplan had a reputation for sticking up for his team. Jeff's official farewell message on the Blizzard website was completely uncapitalized and like two paragraphs long so both possibilities seem believable.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 14:21 |
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Eej posted:Jeff's official farewell message on the Blizzard website was completely uncapitalized and like two paragraphs long so both possibilities seem believable. I do not remember this at all--as in, I don't remember the message, period, not that I am doubting your claims. Is there any record of it still around?
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 17:31 |
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Dick Burglar posted:I do not remember this at all--as in, I don't remember the message, period, not that I am doubting your claims. Is there any record of it still around? https://www.forbes.com/sites/krisholt/2021/04/20/overwatch-game-director-jeff-kaplan-is-leaving-blizzard/ quote:I am leaving Blizzard Entertainment after 19 amazing years.
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# ? Jan 13, 2022 17:43 |
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Thanks for that.Kris Holt posted:His note is lovely. Here it is in full (I’ve cleaned up the punctuation a bit because Papa Jeff doesn’t seem to be a fan of capital letters): gently caress you, Kris Holt. Don't muck with somebody's formatting because it offends your sensibilities. From a skim of Kaplan's posts on reddit it looks like he's right about Kaplan generally eschewing capitalization, though, so I'm not sure if anything can be gleaned from the lack of it in his farewell.
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Golden Goat posted:https://kotaku.com/riot-games-offers-resignation-bonuses-as-company-announ-1848348892
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Golden Goat posted:https://kotaku.com/riot-games-offers-resignation-bonuses-as-company-announ-1848348892 It’s been generally received as positive in the admittedly limited interactions I’ve had. But it has made this week a bit weird where every time you see someone for the first time the question of if they’re taking the option comes up. That said, the shift in direction has been made very clear internally for a while, so most people have had time to process and think about how they fit with it.
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Dick Burglar posted:I do not remember this at all--as in, I don't remember the message, period, not that I am doubting your claims. Is there any record of it still around? Yeah it's from here: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/overwatch/23665015/new-leadership-for-overwatch Which exudes amazing "i dont give a poo poo anymore" energy that belongs in a banme thread
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# ? Jan 14, 2022 04:02 |
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When you have nothing to hide https://twitter.com/KirstenGrind/status/1483093724745715712
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 22:29 |
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at this point i am extremely bewildered by the board continuing to back him. what about him specifically is so valuable to be worth this?
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 22:52 |
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Weedle posted:at this point i am extremely bewildered by the board continuing to back him. what about him specifically is so valuable to be worth this? Presumably they don't want to set a precedent.
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Weedle posted:at this point i am extremely bewildered by the board continuing to back him. what about him specifically is so valuable to be worth this? He's their golf buddy. If corporations were actually as amorally money-hungry as capitalism wishes they were, they would've stamped out all the harassment a long time ago because that poo poo lowers productivity.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 22:54 |
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Clarste posted:He's their golf buddy. If corporations were actually as amorally money-hungry as capitalism wishes they were, they would've stamped out all the harassment a long time ago because that poo poo lowers productivity. yeah it's this, probably you don't sell your friend out just because his company has a harassment problem, do you? It wasn't even his fault, it was all the execs beneath him! I know him personally and he seems like a great guy
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 22:57 |
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cheetah7071 posted:yeah it's this, probably there's probably a fair bit of tit-for-tat going on too. If X board member protects Kotick at Activision, then Kotick will vote a certain way on another board that X board member is part of, or will help X board member get an in with some company or another. There is a poo poo load of nepotism and politics that goes into being on a board for a major company in America.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 23:02 |
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There’s a hint as to why at the end of the article:quote:It also asked for more board independence and pointed out that Mr. Kelly and lead independent director Robert Morgado both have served in their roles for more than 20 years. The board of directors has some dead weight that’s likely knowingly ignored the issues for years. They are more interested in keeping their positions than they are caring for the long term viability of AB. That’s from a letter from an investor that’s also asking for an independent review by a law firm and for Kotick to go on a leave of absence.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 23:55 |
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Weedle posted:at this point i am extremely bewildered by the board continuing to back him. what about him specifically is so valuable to be worth this? Him having pedo evidence and reciepts on other members is my guess (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 23:56 |
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BAK is also a tremendously profitable firm and it'd be no surprise at all to me if the thought process in shareholders' heads basically goes "this guy's making us tons of money, why would we fire him over some poo poo we don't care about?"
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 01:55 |
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Moola posted:Him having pedo evidence and reciepts on other members is my guess Silly Moola, you can't speculate like that! We have to stick to cold hard facts like Bobby Kotick's contact information was in Epstein's little Black Book. https://twitter.com/PMS_Jordan/status/1461100750285815814 (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:40 |
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Potsticker posted:Silly Moola, you can't speculate like that!
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:41 |
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im not defending the evil CEO but this thread should only have facts and sources posted in it and not just shitposting about how the evil CEO is a pedophile imo
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:44 |
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:im not defending the evil CEO but this thread should have facts and sources being posted in it and not shitposting speculation about the evil CEO being a pedophile imo (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:45 |
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that proves kotick was in that circle, nothing about the board. and regardless, the initial post did not contain said proof or any reference to it. thus leading me back to my previous point: this thread should be deleted
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:47 |
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Boby
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:47 |
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Endorph posted:thus leading me back to my previous point: this thread should be deleted
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:47 |
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Endorph posted:that proves kotick was in that circle, nothing about the board. and regardless, the initial post did not contain said proof or any reference to it. You should consider contributing, and using the report function so Moola can handle things Magmarashi fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jan 18, 2022 |
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:im not defending the evil CEO but this thread should only have facts and sources posted in it and not just shitposting about how the evil CEO is a pedophile imo Thank you...Someone had to say it.
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:55 |
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This thread is about games industry news. It is not Blizzwatch Part II. If what you want to do is shitpost about how the whole ABK board are definitely pedophiles or scream into the void about how mad you are about Blizzard, do it in Blizzwatch, not here. I'm going to give this thread a rest for the night because I'm going to bed and this clearly isn't going to go anywhere good while I'm asleep.
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 03:57 |
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Harrow posted:This thread is about games industry news. It is not Blizzwatch Part II. If what you want to do is shitpost about how the whole ABK board are definitely pedophiles or scream into the void about how mad you are about Blizzard, do it in Blizzwatch, not here. Small addition: please don't do it there either
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# ? Jan 18, 2022 04:36 |
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Okay, two things. First: the no shitposting rule is in effect. If you don't have anything substantive to say, don't post at all. It's okay to just read. Second: I was honestly going to leave the thread closed for a while longer, but... https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1483428774591053836
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Surely this means they're also inheriting the lawsuits, right?
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