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bird food bathtub posted:Even just from a purely self interest point of view, if Russia doesn't have them by the balls they should be pretty open to containing Putin's aggression. Not a good look to be saying 'No' at the moment. Cheap heating fuel gets them re-elected.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:It sure looks like Russia has Germany by the balls, doesn't it. Lol @ the country with the second highest number of Neonazis per Capita on the continent invoking this issue while actively ignoring them since forever and telling other countries to gently caress off when they raise concerns. Germany's balls are in a vise, but it's because if money and resources
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Midjack posted:Cheap heating fuel gets them re-elected. Yep, Merkel and Schroder sold Germany out to the Russians pretty goddamn hard. Oh totally forgot about a Russian invasion would involved CHERNOYBL! quote:Defend Chernobyl During an Invasion? Why Bother, Some Ukrainians Ask.
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Fear not, Ukraine, we'll send our 11 working aircraft to protect you.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Fear not, Ukraine, we'll send our 11 working aircraft to protect you. And 20 of our mildly deformed G36s.
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it was said a while ago that brexit was the biggest political own goal in history, but germany's snap decision to shutter nuclear has got to be right loving up there
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I mean, worst case our aircraft don't make the transit, but we'll definitely provide C3 and aerial Intel superiority with our brand new Euro Haw... ...oh
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Okay, chill Ukraine, at the very least we'll supply you with our next gen infantry weapon systems that perform to spec in extreme climate condit... Oof, nevermind.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yep, Merkel and Schroder sold Germany out to the Russians pretty goddamn hard. I was kind of interested in what was going to happen there. Let's see if someone floats the threat to turn the ruins into the world's biggest dirty bomb.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Lol @ the country with the second highest number of Neonazis per Capita on the continent invoking this issue while actively ignoring them since forever and telling other countries to gently caress off when they raise concerns. That's a totally valid complaint from the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany, I don't really see how millions of dead Ukrainians is even remotely comparable to whatever the total number of neo-nazis in Ukraine is. The history of the Ukrainian people is largely a story of being a victim of it's neighbors.
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Let's not forget what's at stake here. (Stolen from D&D pictures thread) https://twitter.com/WhatWhatBitch/status/1483981933512212486
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Jen Psaki is really fuckin' bad at her job. Nah, she is absolutely giving the administration's opinion on these issues.
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Godholio posted:Nah, she is absolutely giving the administration's opinion on these issues. You're right and I hate it
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Wrong Theory posted:Let's not forget what's at stake here. (Stolen from D&D pictures thread) I noticed it was pushed back to December (from April) on xbox gamepass. At this point, just take it off the coming soon list.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yep, Merkel and Schroder sold Germany out to the Russians pretty goddamn hard. Schröder in particular and his 100% shameless post-politics career as a Kremlin petro-oligarch shill is something to behold. Midjack posted:I was kind of interested in what was going to happen there. Let's see if someone floats the threat to turn the ruins into the world's biggest dirty bomb. 
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Wrong Theory posted:Let's not forget what's at stake here. (Stolen from D&D pictures thread) Get out of here, Putin.
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Looking at the map, wouldn't Russia have to get through Belarus or a big portion of eastern Ukraine prior to getting to Chernobyl? I'm not sure of the terrain, but if I were Ukraine I'd position my forces on the Kiev side of the exclusion zone.
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If Russia has any interest in Chernobyl as part of this, it'll be as an excuse to justify invasion. Teams loving around releasing radiation, something like that. Like what they did with chlorine gas earlier in the week. The army comes later.
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PeterCat posted:Looking at the map, wouldn't Russia have to get through Belarus or a big portion of eastern Ukraine prior to getting to Chernobyl? I'm not sure of the terrain, but if I were Ukraine I'd position my forces on the Kiev side of the exclusion zone. Reuters posted:VILNIUS, Jan 19 (Reuters) - Russian troops arriving in Belarus for what Moscow and Minsk say will be joint military exercises are a direct threat to NATO member Lithuania, and could prompt Washington to station more troops in the region, Lithuania's defence minister said. I still thing that Putin's bluffing in an attempt to extract concessions and destabilize Ukraine, but he's not the sort to bluff without demonstrating a real capability of following through.
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Yeah, Russia has been pouring troops into Belarus for quite some time now because Putin and Lukashenko are BFFs. If an invasion does happen it will almost certainly involve a large Russian force attacking from Belarus. https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1484980677758140418
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Well, that's not good. If Biden wanted to he could order a NG unit to a neighboring country for "training," similar to what Reagan in did in Central America in the 80s. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1990-06-12-9002170920-story.html Chicago Tribune posted:The case had its beginnings in 1985, when Republican Gov. George Deukmejian of California refused to consent to a training mission for 450 members of the California National Guard in Honduras because of objections to the location and type of duty. Democratic Gov. Joseph Brennan of Maine shortly thereafter refused to consent to a similar mission. The SC ruled that Reagan could in fact deploy NG troops overseas involuntarily for "training."
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Lol @ the country with the second highest number of Neonazis per Capita on the continent invoking this issue while actively ignoring them since forever and telling other countries to gently caress off when they raise concerns. ...who is number one?
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Milo and POTUS posted:...who is number one? Probably depends on how you define "neo-Nazis" in the broader context of right-wing nationalism but I'll take a flyer on it being Hungary.
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PeterCat posted:Well, that's not good. If Biden wanted to he could order a NG unit to a neighboring country for "training," similar to what Reagan in did in Central America in the 80s. He should do it for those Texas NG on state orders so they actually get pay and benefits.
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hobbesmaster posted:He should do it for those Texas NG on state orders so they actually get pay and benefits. Federalizing the TX ARNG for Ukraine service would be amazing as it would seriously piss off the Governor of Texas.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Oh totally forgot about a Russian invasion would involved CHERNOYBL! I'm not paying the NYT, but is the crux form a perimeter which makes Russians have to suit up in NBC gear or suffer casualties to radiation sickness? Sounds like a good idea or is there something can do from there to make the Dnieper glow green at night?
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This is all clearly an elaborate Russian ploy to extract the wish-granter from the Zone.
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Wrong Theory posted:Let's not forget what's at stake here. (Stolen from D&D pictures thread)  " to "i'm volunteering to deploy to Ukraine if we send folks there"
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Crab Dad posted:I'm trying really hard to justify that comment. If anything Germany should be repaying Ukraine back now for all the terrible poo poo they did there. yeah, that's what he said
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B5? You sunk my German Naval Chief!
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Jimmy Smuts posted:I just went from "I hope ww3 doesn't happen, i'm just a few years away from retirement I'm still at "I'm only two years from retirement and in a NATO reserve unit, gently caress"
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Stultus Maximus posted:I'm still at "I'm only two years from retirement and in a NATO reserve unit, gently caress" They are looking for reservists for afloat billets to support the Ukraine mission (whatever that means) and I’m all like ……. Hrmmmmmm
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CNN posted:The Arizona Democratic Party's executive board announced Saturday it formally censured Arizona Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema for voting to maintain the Senate's filibuster rules, effectively blocking Democrats' voting legislation, a key priority for the pary. https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/22/politics/sinema-censured-arizona-democratic-party/index.html I mean it doesn't really mean anything, but it's nice to know someone is atleast willing to put some sort of action behind official displeasure for Sinema's/Manchin's actions.
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Omicron's made it past NZ's borders, country is going to full restrictions as of midnight. We're over 90% vaxxed, so here's hoping.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Omicron's made it past NZ's borders, country is going to full restrictions as of midnight. We're over 90% vaxxed, so here's hoping. Still probably better than Australians, right? kidding for an Aussies here
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