Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
ccubed
Jul 14, 2016

How's it hanging, brah?
Of course, there are other totally busted things too.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Yogg went to an auto-skip hero to an auto-pick for me, lol

My first game with him, got an early Brann as well as a bounceback Darkmoon prize, so I got a total of 8 spins. Oh, and I was playing Kalec dragons. Easy 1st, even with misplays all around from running out of time and full hands.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Charity Porno posted:

Brukan is loving ridiculous in battlegrounds. He seems like a guaranteed win.

Yeah just had a Taragosa on Brukan's table with 1.5 million attack and a few hundred HP. I love how every time his turn starts the screen turns into a loving rave and he just wins.

I tried Brukan and I didn't notice anything special before I went out in 4th. I'm guessing you got some of the incredibly lucky stuff that would have won no matter who your hero was.

Disargeria
May 6, 2010

All Good Things are Wild and Free!

Jedit posted:

I tried Brukan and I didn't notice anything special before I went out in 4th. I'm guessing you got some of the incredibly lucky stuff that would have won no matter who your hero was.

He's got a strong early game that can keep him going until you get some deathrattle synergy. He can force taunt and health onto things like a right side health imp without needing to fish for the taunt guy, or double the attack of a left cleave beast/mech. Most importantly the buddy will double the attack of the leftmost minion before summoning the 1/1s, so you can safely place him left of them too. Teregosa, parrot, and KT makes it silly.

He also nullifies most divine shields.

And he can change strats depending on who he's going against.

He's pretty good.

Disargeria fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jan 26, 2022

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I have played so much Tonk in Casual Wild that there are people who see me and just concede lol

Olpainless
Jun 30, 2003
... Insert something brilliantly witty here.
Well Buddies are officially a 'Win More' mechanic by the look of it.

A couple of wins means your buddy is online quicker because victories are a big chunk of the meter, which means you just keep winning. Likewise, losses mean you get screwed very quickly.

So yeah, that makes this mode even more ridiculously lopsided!

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
I think it definitely benefits going minion heavy rather than upgrade heavy early on. The new wall going from 4 to 5 supports that as well as people are forced to build midrange compositions for longer so it's easier to catch up.

I do actually like the idea of making the game more spread out over the tiers but yeah the power level between buddies does seem like an issue. Some are a lot better than others and will really swing things early doors.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
In other news, a PSA for any goons looking into trying out the new Duels updates:

https://twitter.com/HiMyNameIsJudge/status/1486195726891819009

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

First new duels game got curator and ended up with a 500hp amalagabud, seems ok

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

ccubed posted:

Tarecgosa is so busted with so many heroes now. Retaining immune while attacking from the Illidan buddy is nuts.

Just won a game with Scabbs soley on the strength of getting Reno’s buddy and golding two Tarecgosa. I also got like 15 buddies over the game, most of which did nothing at all because they relied on hero powers. Scabbs hero power never showed me a buddy, exempt?

I don't understand Vandar Stormpike? So like after a few rounds of tokens dying you've got some a couple 5-10 attack 20-30 health cards. And your opponents have... 50/50 elementals or something.



I didn't lose a round after getting my buddy. 11 win streak, finished with 36 health. BG is like a completely different game now.

Elysium fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 26, 2022

ferroque
Oct 27, 2007

my 1000+ wins paladin portrait is gone? huh? anyone else having this issue??

Navaash
Aug 15, 2001

FEED ME


Starsfan posted:

In other news, a PSA for any goons looking into trying out the new Duels updates:

https://twitter.com/HiMyNameIsJudge/status/1486195726891819009

Putting Drek players into Hearthstone jail because he lost the AV event is taking it a bit too far, innit? :v:

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."

ferroque posted:

my 1000+ wins paladin portrait is gone? huh? anyone else having this issue??

Yeah lots of people apparently. They're working on it:
https://t.co/gbKKp5bnnC
[Updated 1/25] We are aware of a bug that made 1000-win portraits no longer available after the patch launched. We’ve identified the problem and are working on a how to resolve it in a future update.

Tezzeract
Dec 25, 2007

Think I took a wrong turn...
When you realize your big brained deck got nerfed and the meta is up in the air - back to Pirate Warrior!

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
Vandar's "promote" hero power in duels seems a little overpowered to me. Although I guess its quite early on to judge.

But "Give an minion +1/+1 and Rush, poisonous, taunt, windfury, divine shield, or stealth" for 1 gold....having just played a few you need to have a lot of board clear in hand if you even want a chance to stop that boulder

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
In BG right now, playing Jaraxxus. It's Turn 4. I haven't seen a single Demon yet.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Shockeh posted:

In BG right now, playing Jaraxxus. It's Turn 4. I haven't seen a single Demon yet.

I just finished first as Mr J, turns out demon djinn is really good

Baller Ina
Oct 21, 2010

:whattheeucharist:
What site is best for looking for fun Wild decks? Just had a slump with Quest Druid and with Odd Hunter dead I suppose I need something new.

victorious
Jul 2, 2007

As a youth I prayed, "Give me chastity and continence, but not yet."

Baller Ina posted:

What site is best for looking for fun Wild decks? Just had a slump with Quest Druid and with Odd Hunter dead I suppose I need something new.

Have a look through Dane's videos on YouTube, his recent Deathrattle Rogue and Overload Shaman decks are fun to play.

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

For anyone who cares, I bought both levels of the mercenaries training camp. After training for the max of 25 hours, my rare mercs gained 23 levels. So the camp basically gives you a zero-to-maxed guy after a couple days. It's actually useful for me since they seem to have completely removed bots from pvp so grinding levels with a team of three lvl 30s and three lvl 1s isn't an option anymore.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Seems like a pretty good way to level up characters for people who don't want to play Mercs but do want to be kinda ready for future events or something.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
It's not useless but getting XP was always easier (often much easier) than getting coins.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Yeah but when you're like me and you have like 3 Mercs at lvl20+ and the majority at lvl1 and no real desire to play the game, 100 gold to have at everyone at lvl30 in a couple of months or so means I can dabble in playing the game if I want at some point in the future without some tedious grind first that I'll never want to do.

Obviously coins are a whole other thing and Mercs will never be strong enough without them but having a bunch of lvl30s should be good for single player content at least.

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006
Taracgosa (the dragon that keeps enchantments cast on it during combat) is utterly, completely dementedly, wonderously broken in Battlegrounds.

As in, people have gotten its attack so high that it causes the variable storing it to overflow and flake out the rest of the game (someone reported healing enemies).

https://www.reddit.com/r/BobsTavern/comments/sdjwgf/tarecgosa_damage_overflow_32bit_gone_wrong_starts/

If you want to get in on this before Blizzard removes it from the game (they have to, it *completely* breaks Battlegrounds) here's the most efficient way to break the game over your knee:

- Hero: Bru'kan
- Tribe: Dragons
- Play as normal (even without Tarecgosa Bru'kan is pretty damned strong). Get dragons, level up your buddy.
- Once you get Tarecgosa, put it on the right side of your minions. It will remember every elemental cast.
- Get another Tarecgosa? Move the first one to the left side, move the new one to the right side.
- Try to get the promo drake (dragon that buffs neighbors during combat), but honestly you don't even need it.
- If you want to add insult to injury: have a Tarecgosa parked on the left side. Every turn, its damage will double, then double again. This is how someone got it to overflow a 32-bit variable. Divine shield it for extra fun.

Only way you can lose is to poison/divine shield (George/Murlocs is pretty unstoppable -- it was before but buddies giving a combat boost on every divine shield cast just compound it). Otherwise, enjoy the disco inferno of all the elemental casts going off.

Other ways to break the game with Tarecgosa:

- Ilidan: makes Tarecgosa invulnerable. Yep. Only for the first two attacks, but still!

https://twitter.com/MinderRoots/status/1486129673365078018

- Tavish: his buddy (the crab) adds, eventually, double the value of the initial gunshot to its neighbors during combat. Which scales. So that combo is also very broken. (Bru'kan is easier to dominate the early game, though.)

Patch is coming in a few days, so enjoy the insanity now.

Lum_ fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Jan 27, 2022

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
kripp already found a recursive loop with secrets, macaw, and baron

cool detail: golden secrets create golden minions, so a macaw that is constantly being rezzed with redemption created from the golden secret buddy, comes back to trigger the deathrattle all over again and is now golden

it also meant that, due to the animations, Kripp and his opponent never get a chance to shop again

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

OMFG FURRY posted:

kripp already found a recursive loop with secrets, macaw, and baron

cool detail: golden secrets create golden minions, so a macaw that is constantly being rezzed with redemption created from the golden secret buddy, comes back to trigger the deathrattle all over again and is now golden

it also meant that, due to the animations, Kripp and his opponent never get a chance to shop again

Match starts at 4:22:50 in this VOD

https://twitch.tv/videos/1277182437?t=15770s

It's pretty funny and I'm sure Kripp will make a video of it within a few days

Roxors
Feb 18, 2011

RatHat posted:

Match starts at 4:22:50 in this VOD

https://twitch.tv/videos/1277182437?t=15770s

It's pretty funny and I'm sure Kripp will make a video of it within a few days

Man, they really didn't play test this did they? No way the golden secrets generating golden units was intended, since the attack and health is the same for the non-golden unit, and the animation speed is horrible. Yogg has the same issue when he gets the hero power result on the wheel. Dog has a video when he plays a golden buddy with a golden brann, and his hero power goes off 4 times every time he hero powers, taking about 30 seconds to finish. The golden wheel spin is around 15:15 in the video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K6Fqg1Mhm-s
It doesn't help how boring and bad some of the buddies are. Someone posted average placement for each hero on reddit. There are a few surprises, but most are pretty predictable based on how bad the buddies for the low ranking heroes are.
https://i.redd.it/lzn1qd0tw3e81.png

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

Shockeh posted:

In BG right now, playing Jaraxxus. It's Turn 4. I haven't seen a single Demon yet.

Playing Patches at this very moment. Did not see a single pirate until 3 refreshes into turn SIX. (It was a Scallywag).

Killed by this loving ghost:

Elysium fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 27, 2022

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Roxors posted:

It doesn't help how boring and bad some of the buddies are. Someone posted average placement for each hero on reddit. There are a few surprises, but most are pretty predictable based on how bad the buddies for the low ranking heroes are.

I'm surprised that Galewing is so low when its buddy is pretty good. I expect that a lot of people are still trying to go to tier 3 on 5 gold; doing that fucks your percentage towards your first buddy, and Galewing needs that to get strong quickly.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
Is The Demon Seed back in Wild or did I click the wrong game type somehow?

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
It's showing as not banned with Wild filters. Did i miss a game update?

Olpainless
Jun 30, 2003
... Insert something brilliantly witty here.

Desert Bus posted:

Is The Demon Seed back in Wild or did I click the wrong game type somehow?

WAIT WHAT

NO

NONONONONONONONO



Also, this is really fun

### MECHA PUNCH GO!
# Class: Druid
# Format: Wild
#
# 2x (1) Claw
# 2x (1) Lesser Jasper Spellstone
# 1x (1) Lost in the Park
# 1x (1) Naturalize
# 2x (1) Savagery
# 2x (1) Secure the Deck
# 2x (2) Mark of the Spikeshell
# 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance
# 2x (2) Solar Eclipse
# 1x (3) Ferocious Howl
# 2x (3) Fungal Fortunes
# 2x (3) Gnash
# 2x (3) Moontouched Amulet
# 2x (4) Bite
# 1x (4) Oaken Summons
# 2x (4) Park Panther
# 1x (5) Wildheart Guff
# 1x (10) Mecha'thun
#
AAEBAaTABAbpAYTmAr/yAvH7AqP2A4mLBAzhA8EEmgj8zQKY0gL5rQPlugOK4AOi4QOK7QPR9gOvgAQA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone


Yes, that is a Mecha'thun.

Swap strategy based on opponent - if it's a long slog, the mecha'thun wins you the game, otherwise, eat face.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Olpainless posted:

WAIT WHAT

NO

NONONONONONONONO



Also, this is really fun

### MECHA PUNCH GO!
# Class: Druid
# Format: Wild
#
# 2x (1) Claw
# 2x (1) Lesser Jasper Spellstone
# 1x (1) Lost in the Park
# 1x (1) Naturalize
# 2x (1) Savagery
# 2x (1) Secure the Deck
# 2x (2) Mark of the Spikeshell
# 2x (2) Moonlit Guidance
# 2x (2) Solar Eclipse
# 1x (3) Ferocious Howl
# 2x (3) Fungal Fortunes
# 2x (3) Gnash
# 2x (3) Moontouched Amulet
# 2x (4) Bite
# 1x (4) Oaken Summons
# 2x (4) Park Panther
# 1x (5) Wildheart Guff
# 1x (10) Mecha'thun
#
AAEBAaTABAbpAYTmAr/yAvH7AqP2A4mLBAzhA8EEmgj8zQKY0gL5rQPlugOK4AOi4QOK7QPR9gOvgAQA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone


Yes, that is a Mecha'thun.

Swap strategy based on opponent - if it's a long slog, the mecha'thun wins you the game, otherwise, eat face.

Right??? Just wtf is going on here? Small indie game company etc.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Disargeria
May 6, 2010

All Good Things are Wild and Free!
Why try putting it in a deck when we could instead speculate about a visual bug

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
Trying to make a new Wild deck shows it as banned, Standard Demon Seed Quest Warlock is still oppressive in Wild though. Did not know you could run banned cards in Wild so long as you build the deck 100% Standard.

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
They said the change to Annihilation Battlemaster in BG was just text only, and didn't change how it worked, but that's not true. You used to be able to take damage from Wrath Weaver with Mal'ganis on the board and that would count as damage taken for Battlemaster, and now it does not.

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Jedit posted:

I'm surprised that Galewing is so low when its buddy is pretty good. I expect that a lot of people are still trying to go to tier 3 on 5 gold; doing that fucks your percentage towards your first buddy, and Galewing needs that to get strong quickly.

Galewing's buddy feels bad because he triggers at end of turn rather than start of turn, and all 3 flightpaths are odd numbers of turns that trigger at turn start so you always feel like you're "wasting" progress with it out.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Lum_ posted:


- Tavish: his buddy (the crab) adds, eventually, double the value of the initial gunshot to its neighbors during combat. Which scales. So that combo is also very broken. (Bru'kan is easier to dominate the early game, though.)

Tavish is ridiculous if he can survive, I just lost to a ~3k life Tarecgosa because he had his crab buffing her and a gold tricky imp with a gold macaw and baron.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit
The meta was mostly solved before buddies so this is definitely a shakeup but it's also made the mode pretty stupid in a lot of ways

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply