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busalover
Sep 12, 2020
I've started watching the Fall of Civilizations podcast on Youtube. Is this always this sentimental? I've never felt so sad about the Fall of the Roman Empire lol.

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Really? I cry myself to sleep over it every night

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Gaius Marius posted:

Really? I cry myself to sleep over it every night

Pro post/username combo

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Gaius Marius posted:

Really? I cry myself to sleep over it every night

:perfect:

I’ve never actually watched the YouTube series, but the podcast usually has a tinge of melancholy about it. He’s always framing it as “imagine what it was like to be alive at the time, as a person who witnessed the end of their world”. He’s always incorporating local songs or poetry and the like, which gives it a really nice extra touch, and is one of the reasons I rate it so highly.

I’ve re-listened to the Aztec episode since arriving in Mexico a couple of weeks back, and it’s super depressing in places

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM


Just lol.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

webmeister posted:

indie musician John Roderick, who are both pretty chilled, funny, and good dudes.

Bean Dad

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Reminder bean dad was right

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Bean Dad owes Shrimp Tail Guy a ton of money for taking the heat off of him.

And also Bean Dad was wrong give your drat kid the beans

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Bean dad is great because he sucked so much only the worst people would leap to his defense

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:

Gaius Marius posted:

Reminder bean dad was right

Speak on that

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

If you feed the kids they're just gonna keep hanging around looking for handouts, they need to be allowed to develop their hunting and foraging skills early.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011
He found a way to escape the cancerous association to Travis McElroy. The social media equivalent of a fox gnawing off its leg.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

webmeister posted:

:perfect:

I’ve never actually watched the YouTube series, but the podcast usually has a tinge of melancholy about it. He’s always framing it as “imagine what it was like to be alive at the time, as a person who witnessed the end of their world”. He’s always incorporating local songs or poetry and the like, which gives it a really nice extra touch, and is one of the reasons I rate it so highly.

I’ve re-listened to the Aztec episode since arriving in Mexico a couple of weeks back, and it’s super depressing in places

I thought during most of the falls, things had been decaying for a long while and maybe most of the people around wouldn't see the single event as that much of a collapse and the the end of the world.

Aside from the ones that involved the city being invaded and the normal amount of stress and disruption involved with that.

Weird Sandwich
Dec 28, 2011

FIRE FIRE FIRE hehehehe!
Good thing we'll be able to experience the fall of our civilization in real time, so we'll understand how it feels.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Arrhythmia posted:

I've been hearing this one advertised lately, and it sounds like it fits your bill. I haven't listened to a single episode though so caveat emptor on the quality. https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/just-the-zoo-of-us/

This has been great so far. Lighthearted, really informative, and many of their episodes have animal experts on who are incredibly eager to explain why you should care about sponges/flatfish/worms.

It’s been a really good break from most of the usual subject matter I’m listening to.

Eldoop
Jul 29, 2012

Cheeky? Us?
Why, I never!
Does anyone have recommendations for a more topic-based podcast on Rome? I'm nearing the end of History of Rome and I'd like to go back and broaden out a bit.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Eldoop posted:

Does anyone have recommendations for a more topic-based podcast on Rome? I'm nearing the end of History of Rome and I'd like to go back and broaden out a bit.

Fall of Rome is really great, and covers the part Duncan had to speed through the most because of the whole having a kid thing. But it's also way different in that Wyman had a real academic background studying the topic.

Eldoop
Jul 29, 2012

Cheeky? Us?
Why, I never!

Sinteres posted:

Fall of Rome is really great, and covers the part Duncan had to speed through the most because of the whole having a kid thing. But it's also way different in that Wyman had a real academic background studying the topic.

I actually just started listening to Fall of Rome alongside the end of HoR! It is really excellent already, it's especially been nice to get some more background on the Goths and co. I'm a big Wyman fan from Tides already so I've had it sitting ready in my podcast app for months now lol. I've also got History of Byzantium and Byzantium and Friends locked and loaded for when the time comes.

kiminewt
Feb 1, 2022

webmeister posted:

:perfect:

I’ve never actually watched the YouTube series, but the podcast usually has a tinge of melancholy about it. He’s always framing it as “imagine what it was like to be alive at the time, as a person who witnessed the end of their world”. He’s always incorporating local songs or poetry and the like, which gives it a really nice extra touch, and is one of the reasons I rate it so highly.

I’ve re-listened to the Aztec episode since arriving in Mexico a couple of weeks back, and it’s super depressing in places

I've only listened to the podcast but I absolutely love it for it. It was a bit too flowery for me at first but when I got used to it, it placed me in the shoes of someone there better than any other history podcast/book I've read. With the Aztec one I actually had to pause and reconsider finishing it because it was so melancholic, but I did in the end.

Tides of History does a similar sentimental thing in the intro, where it kind of shows a "possible past". I really love that sort of thing even while acknowledging it may be inaccurate. I wish there were more things like that.

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

kiminewt posted:


Tides of History does a similar sentimental thing in the intro, where it kind of shows a "possible past". I really love that sort of thing even while acknowledging it may be inaccurate. I wish there were more things like that.

The world of historical novels beckons to you.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Speaking of Fall of Civ, new episode is up for Patreons and will be on general release shortly. The announcement doesn't specifically say which civ, but the image is of a temple at Hampi in India, so it's likely the Vijayanagara empire.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Can we give a negative review of a historical podcast?

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

Cessna posted:

Can we give a negative review of a historical podcast?

People don’t seem to have any issue with dishing on Hardcore History. As long as you’re clear about what’s not good about it and not like “this show sucks dickbutt and only idiots listen to it” I’d be happy to hear both positive and negative opinions.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Cessna posted:

Can we give a negative review of a historical podcast?

:justpost:

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

Cessna posted:

Can we give a negative review of a historical podcast?

Yeah of course, but like others said be prepared to explain why rather than just "it sucks rear end". Scroll back in the thread a bit, people give negative reviews all the time - Hardcore History typically relies on one (sometimes dubious source), overuses metaphors, and takes forever to get to the point. Blowback's awesome series about the Cuban Missile Crisis did a ridiculous and hilariously credulous u-turn into JFK conspiracy theories for an entire episode. Mike Duncan's first ~50 episodes of History of Rome sound like a guy reading a college paper into a laptop microphone at a kitchen table. The first two seasons of Revolutions was pretty shallow, and his pronunciation was pretty bad (and hasn't improved much). Tides of History has hilariously overpowering music that drowns out the narration at various points for no real reason. In Our Time can be insufferable, with dry boring academics and Lord Melvyn's zero tolerance approach.

So yeah. Go for it. It's a discussion thread :shrug:

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

That reminds me of the one and only criticism I have for Byzantium and Friends: the way in which it just abruptly ends at the end of the interview with zero fanfare. That sweet musical stinger from the intro deserves another use.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Oh History of Rome gets better? I bounced off it for being so dry after trying 4-5 episodes.

I’ve loved most of Revolutions, so it makes sense that Mike has just gotten better at storytelling and podcasting.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Rome was Duncan's first ever podcast project and it took him a long time to get comfortable and develop a more natural delivery. He starts to get better into the swing of things around the Third Servile War and really hits his stride after the fall of the Republic and rise of Augustus.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

whydirt posted:

Oh History of Rome gets better? I bounced off it for being so dry after trying 4-5 episodes.

I’ve loved most of Revolutions, so it makes sense that Mike has just gotten better at storytelling and podcasting.

Yeah a million percent better. I say this as a huge fan of Revolutions and HoR, the first 20-30 episodes are pretty awful. I think it took me three separate attempts to get through them, but once you do it's pretty great. It's been a few years now, but from memory he kinda runs out of steam at the end (you can tell he was done with Roman history and keen to move on to Revolutions).

Apparently his next book will be on the Crisis of the Third Century so that should be pretty interesting.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I never had any issues with HOR outside the first five episodes being recorded on like a five dollar mic

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Yeah I am a big fan of Revolutions, but had avoided HoR due to a general podcast aversion when it was airing. The first few episodes of HoR are striking in their mediocrity by comparison.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

I hate the production on Tides of History

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

evilpicard posted:

I hate the production on Tides of History

I get annoyed with the Age of Empires sound effects.

And the viagra ads

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

webmeister posted:

I get annoyed with the Age of Empires sound effects.

Those are the only good production bits IMO. Very evocative of the era being discussed this season :v:

Wyman is also pretty funny when he's allowed to cut loose, I've heard him as a guest on a few non-history podcasts and he's been great.

Prof. Banks
Apr 22, 2015

Computer lab day! Time to spend 45 minutes trying to load pokemon.com!


Is there a way to listen to Tides of History without having to shell out for a service I otherwise wouldn't use or having to resort to :filez:? I starting listening to the RSS feed and really liked how it started off, and then spent 5 minutes being very confused about what had happened when the next episode on the feed started.

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
I get the full length episodes on Google's podcast app, no problem

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



I remember someone critiquing WDF re. their Korean war coverage, I don't think people should only talk about things they like here.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


GodFish posted:

I get the full length episodes on Google's podcast app, no problem

They remove older episodes from the feed after like 6 months or so and the archives are only available on wOnDeRy pLuS, you know that app that also does mid-episode reads about murdering children and dissolving their bodies in acid.

Arrhythmia
Jul 22, 2011

CommonShore posted:

does mid-episode reads about murdering children and dissolving their bodies in acid.

:staredog:

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CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man



Yeah. Yeah. You've never gotten those ads? From what I can tell, Wondery, outside of Tides, is mostly schlock: pop culture stuff, shallow business stuff, and true crime shows. If Tides had a Patreon where I could buy his back catalogue directly from him, I would buy it in a heartbeat, but there's no way I'm giving money to that company.

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