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have a palate cleanser with some OG purestrain Econ 101 libertarianism. i think i hadn't heard the phrase 'negative rights' since the last ron paul campaign on the poor little oppressed trillion-dollar corps: thegrimmest posted:If we're talking about how things ought to be, I think the power that "we the people" can have over peaceful transactions between private entities ought to be much more limited than it is now. The sledgehammer of government intervention should simply not be used to mediate private, voluntary interactions. thegrimmest posted:It's a line of reasoning that follows the original intended definition of liberty. Anything I should be free to do in my basement and sell to my neighbours I should be free to do at massive scale. There's no avoiding competition. If someone out there innovates the next generation of personal computing, they will eat Apple's lunch, just like Apple ate RIM's. thegrimmest posted:It's ideological because this whole idea of forcing terms onto Apple to open it's store is basically socializing parts of Apple infrastructure and parts of its workforce. To me this is totally unacceptable. Apple's innovation has advanced the state of the art a great deal. This company literally invented the concepts that we're now seeking to rob it of. Why can't we just be grateful that the free market was able to produce such a marvel, be glad for the nice devices we all carry around, and leave the org and its investors well enough alone? thegrimmest posted:
on the housing market: thegrimmest posted:Housing doesn't just grow on trees. It's capital-intensive to produce. Capital that needs to see a return on investment, since it doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are a certain class of people that simply cannot be relied on to pay a mortgage. These people still demand housing, so are served by the renters market. If you force every landlord to sell their housing, you're basically punishing them for investing. Since your heavy-handed regulation has now scared off all the capital from housing, how will you build new houses? thegrimmest posted:So are you saying that people should not be allowed to.. accumulate capital? It's a bit of a radical thing to suggest. How did the landlord get the money to afford the building in the first place? Say he was a high-ranking professional or a successful entrepreneur and he used the capital he earned to buy a building - what's immoral here exactly? thegrimmest posted:
on how CEOs will starve to death if we implement UBI: thegrimmest posted:The "So what" is that if pay for waiters and labourers has to compete with UBI, the cost of service, food, and housing increases significantly, putting it out of reach of more people, and contracting the entire economy as a result. thegrimmest posted:
thegrimmest posted:> There would be a lot more work happening on material things, not less thegrimmest posted:
on a healthy society: thegrimmest posted:I'd start by questioning why you think addicts should discontinue their habits? Why do you think you know what's good for someone more than they do? If an addict says "I like my addiction, thank you very much", what gives you the right to intervene? thegrimmest posted:I'd say "choice" in the conventional sense - the exercise of voluntary control over one's body. If sheer willpower can overcome this on an individual level then it can overcome it on a societal level, society being nothing more than a collection of individuals. aaand the grand finale: thegrimmest posted:> as all human beings should be cared for under modern society thegrimmest posted:
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apple simply walked out into the pristine, unregulated wilderness of the mobile phone market and started digging, as is their natural right
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interesting i wonder if this person has any particular views on the age of consent
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fritz posted:collegeburner 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] that dude has some hella opinions but I appreciated this post from him quote:2 points by collegeburner 11 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments
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quote:CEOs aren't paid a lot because the assume risk, they're paid a lot because business leadership is hard this is ow my brain it HURTS
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business leadership must be very hard because even ceos frequently fail at it, and ceos are the smartest people in the world because they’re doing business leadership which is very hard
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jesus WEP posted:business leadership must be very hard because even ceos frequently fail at it, and ceos are the smartest people in the world because they’re doing business leadership which is very hard Nice ceorcular logic
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the best market space move
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https://kg.dev/thoughts/i-love-you-hn-but-youre-toxic lol
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I don't know why I even opened that because obviously if the person who wrote it wasn't a idiot it would be titled something more like "I loving hate the toxic cesspool that is HN so much it makes me want to quit my job and move to the woods so I never have to see another computer toucher ever again"
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quote:This is the problem with HN: The community is too smart for its own good.
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wow, claiming to be a free market libertarian while stanning apple's app store is some cosmos-brain poo poo is there a word for people like this, who hold capital and its consequent power, as sacrosanct? i'm not joking when i say sacrosanct, this mindset sounds like money worship
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:wow, claiming to be a free market libertarian while stanning apple's app store is some cosmos-brain poo poo Temporarily embarrassed millionaire
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:wow, claiming to be a free market libertarian while stanning apple's app store is some cosmos-brain poo poo
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Silicon Valley libertarians. Someone proposed "ubertarian" as a name but I don't think it caught on.
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Actual libertarian ideas are dumb in themselves but libertarians who apply those ideas to everything rather than selectively applying them to things based on whether they like or don't like those things literally don't exist. It's like "states' rights".
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:wow, claiming to be a free market libertarian while stanning apple's app store is some cosmos-brain poo poo yeah, 'capitalist' bro it was founded as an epithet for describing people who worship money above any morality, principle, religion or community, exactly how you're describing. and it's real bad
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mystes posted:You could call them "fake libertarians" but that would be redundant you can't call them fake without knowing their views on age of consent
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KevinThax 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–] I've seen a trend in porno games development. Digging around their communities I found their main source of income is crowd funding during the development stage. They drag this period out for years and some are currently making $100k a month going by patreon statistics. Maybe the gaming industry needs to change the way funding is managed? reply
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fritz posted:KevinThax 4 minutes ago | prev | next [–]
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This is only one part of a long post so maybe it's unfair but gently caress it: The big mistake Babbage seems to have done (IMO), after coming up with this idea for the Difference Engine, is to have grand visions of it (it can do all the tables!), think it will be super useful, and present it to the government. Instead of taking private funding, he thought his great invention should be the property of the country and partly funded by government.
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chaosbreather posted:yeah, 'capitalist' bro dang that's interesting. i didn't know the history of the term so i went to the oed and wikipedia and learned myself some things you are 99% correct so i apologize for splitting hairs, but it's 'capitalism', not 'capitalist', that's was likely first used a pejorative (the word 'capitalist' already existed and meant a person with investments). wikipedia says some frenchies, first blanc and then proudhon, used it in 1850 and 1861 in that way. however the oed's earliest source is earlier, an english newspaper from 1833 saying The Standard 23 Apr. 1833 posted:Whatever tended to paralyse British industry could not but produce corresponding injury to France; when the same tyranny of capitalism which first produced the disease would be at hand to inflame the symptoms by holding out promises of loans, &c. interestingly, marx used 'capitalist' and 'capitalist means of production' a lot in his book capital, but only twice used 'capitalism' (according to wikipedia). it wasn't until afterwards did the word capitalist start to mean a practitioner or supporter of capitalism in the pejorative sense. maybe 'capitalist means of production' was just too many syllables? anyway, thanks for sending me off on this bit of reading, it was fun
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one thing i meant to say is that it's very cool to learn these etymologies but also somewhat defeating because the overwhelming majority of people don't use that definition basically i wish there were a more clear-cut vernacular word since capitalist/capitalism is already so mushy and hard to define
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"guillotine food"
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" a deepy-burried reply"
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:one thing i meant to say is that it's very cool to learn these etymologies but also somewhat defeating because the overwhelming majority of people don't use that definition to the romans, etymology was like a science {{from skey, to separate, same root as schism and poo poo}} that uncovered the true spirit of a word that has perhaps drifted, to truly understand the present or the future, and if you understood that root meaning you had a mystical power over the uninformed users of the word they were right just because when people proclaim their love of capitalism that they don't think they're saying that they care about money over the world burning, that is what they are saying, from both an etymological and also logical perspective, they're benefiting from their ignorance that prevents them from confronting the truth and consequences of what they're saying. words are tokens that include their legacies and futures. so when someone says 'i love capitalism', that's what i hear, and that's what a lot of people hear, that they're either a gross bootlicker, or worse, someone who actually understands and benefits from the exploitation of billions, a true monster
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anyone who thinks that liberty includes the freedom to starve does not care at all about whether humans are free. dig a little and you'll find that most "libertarians" are social darwinists. they champion freedom as a means to enable plutocracy, which in their minds is equivalent to aristocracy in its literal meaning--rule by the best. you cant find the ubermensch by measuring wealth but that wont stop hn from trying
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well in fairness they keep trying other ways but people won’t sit still to have their skulls measured
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baxuz 0 minutes ago | next [–] The article almost exclusively talks about the US. One reason that isn't mentioned in the article is because the USA is fundamentally based on puritanism. The "All American" OJ and corn flakes breakfast and circumcision is still practiced to this day. In the US, sex is heavily politicized. On one hand, everything is hypersexualized, but there is nothing genuine about any of it. Sex is wrong. "Look, but don't touch". Everything is relegated to the sphere of fantasy and imagination. Especially teenage sexuality is something that's vilified to no end. You can't expect adults to have a healthy sex life if everything they know about sex so far is that it's some sort of forbidden fruit. reply hiran88 17 minutes ago | prev | next [–] From my perspective and direct experience, it’s widespread porn use, which has extremely detrimental effects on your dopamine system, which leads to something you might term ‘lack of charisma, confidence and vital energy’, which leads to less people having sex due to confidence/charisma issues and lack of any drive. By my experience and observation, porn is really bad for oneself, and it’s really addicting. I’m a millennial male, and at some point, all four of us in my friend group realized and mentioned we are addicted to porn. I still have addiction issues, but I’ve managed to reduce my use on average to once every 2-4 weeks from 4-5+ times a week, and the benefits to my entire life and being have been immense immense immense. reply caeril 2 minutes ago | prev | next [–] It's burying the lede to suggest that young people are having less sex. The salient fact is that it's young men who are skewing this average down. Women, on average, are doing perfectly fine in the sexual marketplace, along with the top 10-15% of men. reply noduerme 44 minutes ago | prev | next [–] Lack of eye contact. That's what I see among both sexes under the age of 30. Almost to the level of autism. An inability to have basic conversation. And the boys are totally ineffectual and terrified of trying to kiss a girl; it's been made faux pas to show any inclination. It's hard enough as a teenager to get up the courage to kiss a girl. Imagine if you think there's a 50/50 chance she'll completely destroy your life on social media, rather than just say "no thanks". In my mid-30s I ran through a spate of recent divorcees who all had almost exactly the same complaint. Their husband of 10 years hadn't slept with them in 5+ years, and was always in the basement playing video games or watching porn. Which he didn't want to watch with her. Two of them - totally separately - told me they would dress up in lingere and go to the basement and the husband would say he was too tired. A third said she felt "unfuckable" and started crying recounting it. (I said, oh no! You're totally fuckable! I also said, I would never play a video game rather than lay in bed with you. And it was like... holy poo poo) This is literally what's going on. reply graderjs 55 minutes ago | prev | next [–] Responding to the title: they get their dopamine and serotonin from smartphones x sex has become more risky (than it already was, heh -- STDs and pregnancy / child support) especially reputationally risky with revenge porn and fake rape accusations amplified by social media x 'woke' conflict around consent x pandemic? reply andrewclunn 0 minutes ago | prev | next [–] STD rates among women are up. More men are virgins though. Basically the women are all sleeping with a small number of men. A few men are having all the sex and the others are invisible to women. The resulting bitterness of men towards women and ensuing cat ladies in waiting among the zoomers will be quite the shock to the out of touch older generations. reply pinephoneguy 22 minutes ago | prev | next [–] 1) So called "sexual liberation" leads to less sex paradoxically (availability of porn for men, women always thinking they can do a little better and holding out etc.) Humans function better with intact family units and when that's destroyed everything else comes next. 2) You can weaken a country via PR/marketing that discourages sex or encourages promiscuity. Outside influences that are trying to destroy us have been doing this extremely aggressively. 3) High inflation rates and high immigration rates and abuse of credit have resulted in young people being completely unable to afford housing. Without private space to have sex it becomes much more complicated than it already is and for many people it's just not worth it. 4) Society has been atomized (intentionally or not) and most people aren't part of a local community anymore. This makes meeting a partner extremely difficult. 5) Men typically initiate relationships but have been told doing so is unacceptable. This leaves it to women who will only initiate relationships with the long tail of attractive men, meaning only a few women will be successful. 6) Smartphones eat everything. They're worse than television. reply elcapitan 8 minutes ago | prev [–] So what's the problem when people are not forced anymore to adhere to stupid social games, faking interest in other people, wasting a lot of time on something that in the end is just a couple of minutes of satifsfying a body function? Seems like a huge plus. Nobody is forced to live that way, and probably everybody else is better off with the two worlds separated. reply (This is nearly every top comment from that particular post.)
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Nomnom Cookie posted:anyone who thinks that liberty includes the freedom to starve does not care at all about whether humans are free. dig a little and you'll find that most "libertarians" are social darwinists. they champion freedom as a means to enable plutocracy, which in their minds is equivalent to aristocracy in its literal meaning--rule by the best. you cant find the ubermensch by measuring wealth but that wont stop hn from trying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25sSLBvk_M8
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destroy all men
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hn thread: i would never play a video game rather than lay in bed with you
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I really don't want to know what hn posters think about teenage sexuality.
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ultrafilter posted:I really don't want to know what hn posters think about teenage sexuality. they're libertarians, you know exactly what they think
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Problem: Data centers have a huge environmental impact.quote:The following article, excerpted from anthropologist Steven Gonzales Monserrate’s case study “The Cloud Is Material: On the Environmental Impacts of Computation and Data Storage,” takes us into the blinking corridors of data centers that make digital industry possible and makes clear the environmental costs of ubiquitous computing in modern life. Solution: golemotron 2 hours ago | parent | context | favorite | on: The staggering ecological impacts of computation a... Consumption really can lead to the development of clean energy sources. People need to develop a growth-mindset on this issue.
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Xik posted:Problem: Data centers have a huge environmental impact. this guy's management material
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Xik posted:Consumption really can lead to the development of clean energy sources. People need to develop a growth-mindset on this issue. quite an innovative euphemism for brain cancer
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Xik posted:Problem: Data centers have a huge environmental impact. coiners like to repeat the same nonsense regarding their useless activities
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hey i heard accelerationism was en vogue
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the growth mindset of never learning anything new and always applying the "number up" strategy to every experience in life
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