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The_Franz posted:https://twitter.com/accursedfarms/status/1494479783408852992?s=20&t=OCkVZL6gELZvkBYFqm8qZQ i have an account for game pass. no problem.
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The_Franz posted:https://twitter.com/accursedfarms/status/1494479783408852992?s=20&t=OCkVZL6gELZvkBYFqm8qZQ But they'll probably back off on Pro.
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The_Franz posted:https://twitter.com/accursedfarms/status/1494479783408852992?s=20&t=OCkVZL6gELZvkBYFqm8qZQ isn’t this basically osx + appleid ?
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Kernel Sanders posted:isn’t this basically osx + appleid ? pretty much yeah, makes sense to do since it simplifies and standarizes managing passwords (including online resets) and keys and such related to your account. e.g. there was a long bitlocker recovery key discussion in the security thread which largely circled around the fallback behaviors from not having a microsoft account. i get that some people consider it a freedom thing to not have a microsoft account, but they are still accepting all the related licenses and eulas installing windows, so i do think they'd be happier just going on some suitable linux if they really worry about it.
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Kernel Sanders posted:isn’t this basically osx + appleid ? you don't need an appleid to use macos or ios. you can't access the app store and the cloud stuff won't work, but it's not strictly necessary
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you can sign in to just the app store if you really want as well although I have to give MS props for letting you get free stuff from the windows store without having to have an account at all (until now, probably)
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~Coxy posted:although I have to give MS props for letting you get free stuff from the windows store without having to have an account at all (until now, probably) mystes fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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i mean, generally i cannot imagine a situation where "oh yeah, install windows 11, just don't create a microsoft account" doesn't add up to awful advice. microsoft has a lot of nonsense going on in windows 10/11, all very legit to be upset about and switch away over, but given that you don't escape that poo poo anyway local accounts were already bordering on a misfeature and it'd for sure only get worse over time.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i mean, generally i cannot imagine a situation where "oh yeah, install windows 11, just don't create a microsoft account" doesn't add up to awful advice. microsoft has a lot of nonsense going on in windows 10/11, all very legit to be upset about and switch away over, but given that you don't escape that poo poo anyway local accounts were already bordering on a misfeature and it'd for sure only get worse over time. If you use a microsoft account you can reset the password, but on the other hand.... I'm not entirely convinced it isn't better for most non-technical people to just not have a password on their account for a computer that they just keep at home (since it's not like it can be accessed remotely anyway)? Forcing everyone to use drive encryption and storing the key in the microsoft account I guess is a higher default level of security, but like I'm not sure I want my extremely elderly grandfather to have to use a password/pin/fingerprint to log into his computer that has nothing on it and never leaves his home since I'm literally not sure he'll be able to handle that? They've already made it hard to install windows without a microsoft account so I'm not sure there's much point to actively make it impossible? mystes fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Feb 21, 2022 |
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mystes posted:What advantage do you see for normal users to log in via a microsoft account? They’ll be able to keep using their account when windows updates again next month.
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mystes posted:What advantage do you see for normal users to log in via a microsoft account? password recovery options a normal person can use, support for the whole windows hello infrastructure (e.g. biometrics and so on), there not being weird traps with turning on bitlocker, and over time, more and more poo poo that'll expect functionality like onedrive since 99% of users do have it. plus of course a bunch of stuff more clearly straddling the line of being os functionality and account stuff, like find my device. most of which microsoft could fix if they really worked at it, but then it'd be a secondary set of functionality seeing very little use, and even with decent effort put in (which they wouldn't) it'd no doubt turn out buggy and harder to get support for. i'd also view it as an upside that people then stop lying to themselves about running windows 11 while retaining some extra privacy thanks to not creating an account.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:password recovery options a normal person can use, support for the whole windows hello infrastructure (e.g. biometrics and so on), there not being weird traps with turning on bitlocker, and over time, more and more poo poo that'll expect functionality like onedrive since 99% of users do have it. plus of course a bunch of stuff more clearly straddling the line of being os functionality and account stuff, like find my device.
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Feb 21, 2022 15:54
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mystes posted:They shouldn't force you to use stuff like onedrive (honestly they're clearly moving back to illegal bundling territory) and again... you don't necessarily password recovery or biometrics for a computer that's just sitting in your home if you just... don't set a password on it. It's more secure to have a password, but for a lot of people the risk of someone breaking into their home and stealing their computer is at the bottom of their concerns. this is, however, getting weighed against the advantages of local accounts: nothing whatsoever.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this is, however, getting weighed against the advantages of local accounts: nothing whatsoever. There's also no online account to get stolen/hacked.
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mystes posted:I just said several times that the advantage if you use a local account is that you can just not have a password set for non-technical users on computers that never leave their homes. i struggle, to say the least, to accept the ability to not set a password as an advantage.
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Feb 21, 2022 16:01
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mystes posted:I just said several times that the advantage if you use a local account is that you can just not have a password set for non-technical users on computers that never leave their homes.
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i'm not looking forward to sharing a security boundary with microsoft and their spaghetti backend to authenticate to my home PC spying on what processes i launch and what i click on is different than handling auth tokens this was probably inevitable, it just sucks imo and users gonna thrash about changes
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02B6C4 posted:i'm not looking forward to sharing a security boundary with microsoft and their spaghetti backend to authenticate to my home PC microsoft has been able to remotely push and run arbitrary code on your computer for 20 years.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:microsoft has been able to remotely push and run arbitrary code on your computer for 20 years. outside of windows update, which can be controlled with gpo / sccm? legit asking
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02B6C4 posted:outside of windows update, which can be controlled with gpo / sccm? legit asking especially if you don't update your os, since then your security boundary is everyone on the internet, which pretty trivially includes microsoft. have you considered ubuntu?
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tk posted:Did you just advise a no-password setup and then double down on that being a security advantage? The advantage is that they aren't going to get locked out. I never said it was a "security" advantage (I didn't say that and neither did the question I was responding to). If you disagree please feel free to explain what additional security is provided by an account password in this scenario (you think it's going to make UAC more secure? you think that someone's going to break into their house and have physical access to the computer but not be able to insert a usb drive to reset the password?).
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the risk that an average computer user will say "that's me!", then enable bitlocker, change a firewall setting because mod nexus forums told them so, and finally take their laptop to the coffee shop that very afternoon.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:especially if you don't update your os, since then your security boundary is everyone on the internet, which pretty trivially includes microsoft. proton doesn't work well with DRM heavy games
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02B6C4 posted:proton doesn't work well with DRM heavy games yeah, but hopefully keeps improving. to be clear i absolutely detest the way microsoft is messing about on the privacy front on windows, but requiring an account is not from my perspective the big issue there. given proper guarantees it actually mostly makes sense.
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mystes posted:For someone who isn't using full disk encryption and whose computer is not remotely accessible in any manner and is definitely going to forget their password and get locked out of their computer which also, as I said, never leaves their home that nobody else goes into, not setting a password does not really have a significant effect on security. The best reason you’ve got for keeping around local accounts is that you can avoid leaving a sticky note with the password under the keyboard? On the other side of the ring you’ve got all sorts of simplified maintenance. I don’t like your chances in this fight.
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tk posted:The best reason you’ve got for keeping around local accounts is that you can avoid leaving a sticky note with the password under the keyboard?
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just commit to the bit and wring your hands about people without an internet connection
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WSA is really neat, especially the notification integration with standard desktop notifications well you do have to use Magisk + OpenGApps to actually get normal android on it, but once you do it's quite good and works p. well
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I don’t know what any of that means. davinci resolve is free so doesn’t affect me
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:is w11 still garbage? yep. well, it is ok (obv. would not make my top 10 of concerns in my life in 2022), just strictly worse than 10, which is real dumb.
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:is w11 still garbage? Yeah kinda, indicators are from the Insider builds that they're getting around to fixing a lot of the inconsistencies but you likely won't see most of them released into the public builds until later this year
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not much, what's inbox app with you?
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480p exports. doesn’t look like an iMovie killer
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Lol Love to pay Microsoft $9/month for cloud file storage when I already have 1TB from o365 I can't wait to sign up for a monthly Microsoft Paint cloud subscription to unlock the eraser tool mystes fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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One of you windows nerds probably knows this. Is there any equivalent of screen or tmux for windows?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:One of you windows nerds probably knows this. Is there any equivalent of screen or tmux for windows? Yeah, it's called WSL and you can use any linux garbage you want.
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