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Buck Turgidson posted:i am also using proton to play elden ring, although I can't play online for some reason. otherwise works nicely. i also have fsr forced on which seems to give me a few more fps how are you turning on fsr? I've been eyeing gamescope, but haven't been motivated enough to try it out
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nudgenudgetilt posted:how are you turning on fsr? proton lets you set launch options for each game. for the latest proton-ge build at least, you can add the following: WINE_FULLSCREEN_FSR=1 %command%
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Buck Turgidson posted:proton lets you set launch options for each game. for the latest proton-ge build at least, you can add the following: word. I'd considered that as well, but having to install proton-ge from aur seemed like something worth giving a shot after trying gamescope from my distro repo either way I have to gently caress around with game launch settings 
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nudgenudgetilt posted:word. I'd considered that as well, but having to install proton-ge from aur seemed like something worth giving a shot after trying gamescope from my distro repo that's fair enough. I don't know what distro you're on but you can get the release builds directly from https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom and just extract them in the steam compatibilitytools folder. then you just select the version of proton in steam (may need restart) and off you go. useful for very new games that need some tweaks
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Mar 2, 2022 04:51
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Sapozhnik posted:that being said it is a bit stuttery in open world areas, but supposedly it's like that on windows too. whether it is worse under linux i do not know. that is what its like on windows too, but proton experimental has fixed this for the Linux faithful
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mystes posted:most people either need very little functionality and can use google docs or the web version of office OR are really used to exactly how everything is in office so the differences are incredibly annoying in it's impossible to switch. how is it possible to get used to exactly how things are in office, the application suite where every application works differently and the interface can be completely rearranged between versions
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good to hear that proton is working great as long as you pull some random commandline options from a forum and use some other version than the one you're on. i am sure applying this advice once it'll be all good and it wont be a recurring pattern forever.
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Mar 2, 2022 11:00
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look at mr. sunshine there
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Buck Turgidson posted:i am also using proton to play elden ring, although I can't play online for some reason. otherwise works nicely. i also have fsr forced on which seems to give me a few more fps excuse me, i think you mean to say gnu/elden ring
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Tankakern posted:look at mr. sunshine there i mean, fingers crossed 100%, proton seems pretty good, but the moment you start piling on the special settings and having random people tell you some other version will work you *usually* have bad times ahead.
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i use a custom version of proton because i'm a dumbass who plays mmos and mmos are very bad and need special settings, but outside those 2 games i just have "proton experimental" default on steam and it just works(tm) until fairly recently proton was a lot more temperamental about what works with what version, but since the experimental branch moved to 7.x about a year ago it's been insanely smooth obviously there's still various catches, like certain anti-cheats simply not working, but that's not really an issue wine can work around without the developer's help
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Anyone have any experience with Silverblue? Literally all the apps I use now are available as flatpaks either from the Fedora flatpak repo, Flathub, or Flathub-beta so I'd not have to do any layering. Have most of the other kinks been worked out of Silverblue now? If it's in a good spot might switch over at the next Fedora release.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:good to hear that proton is working great as long as you pull some random commandline options from a forum and use some other version than the one you're on. i am sure applying this advice once it'll be all good and it wont be a recurring pattern forever. this is linux
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Nitrousoxide posted:Anyone have any experience with Silverblue? Literally all the apps I use now are available as flatpaks either from the Fedora flatpak repo, Flathub, or Flathub-beta so I'd not have to do any layering. Have most of the other kinks been worked out of Silverblue now? yeah it's very good i've been using it for a couple of years now. nvidia graphics might be iffy maybe? Captain Foo posted:this is linux idk i use the same version of proton for everything (proton experimental) and i don't screw around with any command line options taken from a forum or otherwise but if you prefer living in your reality over this one then feel free i'd say the vast majority of games including denuvo'd stuff works now, it's really been coming along in leaps and bounds these past few years. multiplayer games with aggressive anti-cheat might have issues. elden ring multiplayer works fine for me fwiw.
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huh I didn't realise there was a proton experimental branch... it's been a long time since I played a game
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I think there has been an experimental proton since shortly after it was released. I've never seen a point in not using it, since it's just a dropdrown in prefs, and seems to consistently work as well or better than "released" versions.
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proton is a really impressive project. would have absolutely blown younger me's mind.
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Soricidus posted:how is it possible to get used to exactly how things are in office, the application suite where every application works differently and the interface can be completely rearranged between versions
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Sapozhnik posted:yeah it's very good i've been using it for a couple of years now. nvidia graphics might be iffy maybe? Awesome, I don't have an nvidia card so that doesn't matter, but I imagine you'd just rpm-tree layer it on the system image and occasionally have to reboot to install updates for it. I'm already using Fedora and do the updates through their preferred reboot-apply method anyway, so the need reboot for Silverblue doesn't change anything for me. And, in fact, it'd probably be better since it's basically setting up the image to reboot into next time ahead of time rather than making changes on the next boot, so that next boot should be just as fast as a regular one. If you encrypt your drive you also shouldn't need to put in your password an extra time to decrypt to install updates, reboot, then decrypt again.
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Sapozhnik posted:yeah it's very good i've been using it for a couple of years now. nvidia graphics might be iffy maybe? the latest nvidia drivers are actually pretty good under wayland. the only real holdup with wayland at this point are applications that dragged their feet on support (mpv still has some bugs and java only recently started working on native wayland support so everything is still blurry with hidpi scaling)
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The_Franz posted:the latest nvidia drivers are actually pretty good under wayland. the only real holdup with wayland at this point are applications that dragged their feet on support (mpv still has some bugs and java only recently started working on native wayland support so everything is still blurry with hidpi scaling) which compositor are you using? I'm still having wayland troubles on my amd/nvidia/gnome system. running in nvidia-only mode with wayland and plugging/unplugging an external display intermittently crashs gnome-shell. running in hybrid mode with wayland, the external display isn't detected at all until I power up the nvidia card via prime-run, then does the same intermittent crashy poo poo as an nvidia-only config for a long time the only way I could get an external display working on this thing was running nvidia-only mode with x11, but with nv 510 drivers, the external display finally started working in hybrid mode x11 (yey dma-buf). I have my fingers crossed that gnome 42 will clear up some of the wayland behavior
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nudgenudgetilt posted:which compositor are you using? I'm still having wayland troubles on my amd/nvidia/gnome system. running in nvidia-only mode with wayland and plugging/unplugging an external display intermittently crashs gnome-shell. running in hybrid mode with wayland, the external display isn't detected at all until I power up the nvidia card via prime-run, then does the same intermittent crashy poo poo as an nvidia-only config gnome, but it's a desktop nvidia-only setup where nothing gets added or removed except the occasional usb device
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The_Franz posted:the latest nvidia drivers are actually pretty good under wayland. the only real holdup with wayland at this point are applications that dragged their feet on support (mpv still has some bugs and java only recently started working on native wayland support so everything is still blurry with hidpi scaling) i currently use synergy a lot and also need screen sharing to not randomly fail to start so i'm stuck on x11 still to be fair to synergy i imagine there's a bunch of issues with running something like it with wayland's process/security model, probably has to go into the wm or something
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The_Franz posted:the latest nvidia drivers are actually pretty good under wayland. the only real holdup with wayland at this point are applications that dragged their feet on support (mpv still has some bugs and java only recently started working on native wayland support so everything is still blurry with hidpi scaling) Discord still not having system wide PTT support under wayland is... less than ideal.
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Progressive JPEG posted:
I think the security model problems are mostly solved by pipewire and xdg-desktop-portal, but it seems like maintainers of legacy tools are more interested in screaming about how wayland is destroying their world than contributing to or adopting new protocols
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nudgenudgetilt posted:I think the security model problems are mostly solved by pipewire and xdg-desktop-portal, but it seems like maintainers of legacy tools are more interested in screaming about how wayland is destroying their world than contributing to or adopting new protocols it looks like xdg-desktop-portal is some flatpak solving-problems-they-created bullshit rather than anything to do with mouse/keyboard capture and emulation? skimmed the readme and they don't really say anything about what it's for, and can't be bothered to look further
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wayland doesn't allow arbitrary applications to act as keyloggers, an application that wants access to a user's key and mouse inputs across the whole desktop has to go through the necessary channels.
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Sapozhnik posted:wayland doesn't allow arbitrary applications to act as keyloggers, an application that wants access to a user's key and mouse inputs across the whole desktop has to go through the necessary channels. nor does it allow random userspace applications to warp the mouse pointer or even query global window or pointer coordinates, which is good, because userland applications have no business doing any of those things if you read the early conversations from the java people tasked with wayland support though, it's apparently a very big deal. when macos stopped letting random applications warp the mouse pointer, several game developers had a meltdown, because the way they handled mouse input was to center the pointer every frame, calculate how much to move the camera from the delta and then re-center it for the next frame. for whatever reason, they were still doing this janky crap despite every desktop having raw relative mouse input events for years
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The_Franz posted:nor does it allow random userspace applications to warp the mouse pointer or even query global window or pointer coordinates, which is good, because userland applications have no business doing any of those things ah okay in that case i'll just keep using the thing that works, and continue leaving the thing that doesn't work to the architectural navel gazers have you been involved with the gnome settings UIs by any chance?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Discord still not having system wide PTT support under wayland is... less than ideal. also wayland doesn't support all the F keys higher than 12 somehow. I normally use f24 for push to talk since no other app uses that as a hotkey and it won't work under wayland. xev catches an empty event, the wayland equivalent i forgot the name of catches nothing lmao
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Progressive JPEG posted:i currently use synergy a lot and also need screen sharing to not randomly fail to start so i'm stuck on x11 still the fork of the last free version of synergy has plans for wayland support BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Mar 3, 2022 |
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Truga posted:also wayland doesn't support all the F keys higher than 12 somehow. I normally use f24 for push to talk since no other app uses that as a hotkey and it won't work under wayland. xev catches an empty event, the wayland equivalent i forgot the name of catches nothing lmao this is barely more reasonable than spacebar heating though
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Nomnom Cookie posted:this is barely more reasonable than spacebar heating though not supporting standard PC features is reasonable? f13-24 have been part of the pc spec for decades this isn't some arcane thing
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Tankakern posted:ooh steamos uses btrfs fail
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hifi posted:fail it's fine as long as you aren't using raid 5 or 6
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Progressive JPEG posted:ah okay in that case i'll just keep using the thing that works, and continue leaving the thing that doesn't work to the architectural navel gazers "CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE BEEN AWARDED A BROWSER ENHANCEMENT! CLICK 'ACCEPT' TO ENTER A WORLD OF SAVINGS AND GREAT DEALS, OR 'CANCEL' TO BE A FOOL AND IGNORE THESE GREAT OFFERS!" *goes to click 'cancel'* *pointer suddenly appears over the 'accept' button*
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The_Franz posted:it's fine as long as you aren't using raid 5 or 6 Hey, maybe Valve will make some contributions to the FS to actually fix those issues if they're going to be using it in their hardware.
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The_Franz posted:"CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE BEEN AWARDED A BROWSER ENHANCEMENT! CLICK 'ACCEPT' TO ENTER A WORLD OF SAVINGS AND GREAT DEALS, OR 'CANCEL' TO BE A FOOL AND IGNORE THESE GREAT OFFERS!" javascript isn't real and can't hurt you
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