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A quick google has this on the first page: So yeah the CHUDs are feeding on this despite having never given the slightest gently caress about women's swimming before and forgetting all about it in a few months.
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I know that college sports are a big thing in America and all but do people actually care about college swimming? Swimming is afaik a sport people care about once every four years when the Summer Olympics come around.
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Mar 20, 2022 07:25
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I know that college sports are a big thing in America and all but do people actually care about college swimming? Swimming is afaik a sport people care about once every four years when the Summer Olympics come around. Well, not unless it can be used as a bludgeon against your enemies in a bullshit culture war then yeah its suddenly something you care deeply about.
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Ravenfood posted:Lia Thomas. And yes, one of many reasons it's all just manufactured stupidity. ok. I don't pay much attention to it since it is dumb and trans athletes should be able to participate for a variety of reasons and modern athletes are so many sigmas outside the norm it doesn't make that much of a difference (see: Phelps or any linebacker or basketball player, who are all absolute mutants) but I saw women sort of asymptomatically approaching 4:30 as technique and technology improve and then two crushing times that destroy it. and I was like "hmm". I value sport along the sort of dionysian "everyone together u ooh-ra-ra" scale so that doesn't bother me but i wae like, wow, thats pretty crushing if it is repeatable. so I googled it and it appeared to have no relevance to their (insane) argument.
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Mar 20, 2022 07:42
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Ravenfood posted:They do not!
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I know that college sports are a big thing in America and all but do people actually care about college swimming? Swimming is afaik a sport people care about once every four years when the Summer Olympics come around. It’s not just swimming to be fair. Nobody cares about ANY womens sports at any level.
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Mar 20, 2022 10:21
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oldpainless posted:It’s not just swimming to be fair. Nobody cares about ANY womens sports at any level. I mean, if you ignore tennis and soccer this is true.
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Mar 20, 2022 10:33
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Well we ignore All of them is my point
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Mar 20, 2022 10:35
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, if you ignore tennis and soccer this is true. Women's soccer is mostly only popular in America, and only because they win world championships and our men's team really loving sucks.
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Mar 20, 2022 10:46
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oldpainless posted:Well we ignore All of them is my point That's why Serena Williams isn't famous. Oh, wait, she is and you're being an idiot on social media.
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Mar 20, 2022 10:56
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:That's why Serena Williams isn't famous. Oh, wait, she is and you're being an idiot on social media. Tennis in general is kind of a weird one in terms of sport popularity, where people only really care about it when there's a big tournament going on, but since there's apparently six million annual tennis opens then it blips into the public interest at least a couple times a year depending on where you are. But then you've also got the situation where if a woman is the top of a sport that doesn't get much public interest, then she can break through that. Venus and Serena Williams, Naomi Osaka, Simone Biles, Megan Rapinoe, you can break into public interest from a less watched sport, it just requires you to be among the best. ...and even if you are among the best, most of the public interest is probably going to be insults and criticism.
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Mar 20, 2022 11:11
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Cleretic posted:Tennis in general is kind of a weird one in terms of sport popularity, where people only really care about it when there's a big tournament going on, but since there's apparently six million annual tennis opens then it blips into the public interest at least a couple times a year depending on where you are. Tennis is a weird one because it's pretty much the only sport where total take home including endorsements is higher for women. Women used to get less prize money for being lazy and only playing 3 sets but they get better sponsorship deals.
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Mar 20, 2022 11:55
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Cleretic posted:Tennis in general is kind of a weird one in terms of sport popularity, where people only really care about it when there's a big tournament going on Yes, like with every individual sport. There aren't crowds gathering at stadiums to watch sprinters practice for their tournaments either. What about WNBA, I thought that was a popular league. Fake edit: My extensive research (reading the first paragraph of this article) suggests its audience is growing by double digit percentages annually.
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Women’s basketball in general is growing popularity wise. Gymnastics has pretty fervent supporters even in non-Olympic years. But nobody watches swimming, even though lots of people have swum competitively at some point in their youth.
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Aramoro posted:Tennis is a weird one because it's pretty much the only sport where total take home including endorsements is higher for women. Women used to get less prize money for being lazy and only playing 3 sets but they get better sponsorship deals. Yeah, Djokovic showed he was an idiot rear end in a top hat long before the whole not getting vaccinated saga by constantly crying about female tennis players getting equal pay
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:That's why Serena Williams isn't famous. Oh, wait, she is and you're being an idiot on social media. Lots of hostility here but that’s ok friend I forgive you.
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Women's Aussie rules football is getting significant attention in Australia especially considering how little time it's been A Thing, which pleasantly surprised me considering the proportion of sexist fuckwits that inhabit this country. Still not getting paid enough to do it professionally so touch wood that'll get traction.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Women’s basketball in general is growing popularity wise. Gymnastics has pretty fervent supporters even in non-Olympic years. But nobody watches swimming, even though lots of people have swum competitively at some point in their youth. That’s mainly because womens basketball is still pretty young as a professional endeavor. They aren’t on the NBA level but the NBA wasn’t always like this either
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Breetai posted:Women's Aussie rules football is getting significant attention in Australia especially considering how little time it's been A Thing, which pleasantly surprised me considering the proportion of sexist fuckwits that inhabit this country. Still not getting paid enough to do it professionally so touch wood that'll get traction. Australians are a little bit nuts about any sport. Even American football gets some attention, I have some cousins who've played it. I really suspect sometimes, you put a sport in front of em and they'll watch it, and probably pick someone to cheer for within thirty seconds.
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Skwirl posted:Women's soccer is mostly only popular in America, and only because they win world championships and our men's team really loving sucks. It’s shifted to caring about women’s soccer in America because some of them dared kneel during an anthem, so now people rush to congratulate the other team if they win or just to call them all traitors. So it’s exactly the same poo poo as this, really.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:33
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Skwirl posted:Women's soccer is mostly only popular in America, and only because they win world championships and our men's team really loving sucks. I recently learned that women's soccer in England had become as or even more popular than men's soccer by the early 1920's. So the men banned women's soccer for fifty years. Wikipedia posted:Despite being more popular than some men's football events (one match saw a 53,000 strong crowd), women's football in England was halted in 1921 when The Football Association outlawed the playing of the game on Association members' pitches, on the grounds stating that "the game of football is quite unsuitable for females and ought not to be encouraged." I wonder how popular women's soccer would be in England if the men hadn't been a bunch of dicks and set them back fifty years.
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jjack229 posted:I recently learned that women's soccer in England had become as or even more popular than men's soccer by the early 1920's. So the men banned women's soccer for fifty years. Englishmen being a bunch of dicks contributes to a lot of world history at this point.
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Including themselves for the last handful of years. Guess that's what happens when you run out of people to be assholes to.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Including themselves for the last handful of years. Guess that's what happens when you run out of people to be assholes to. To be fair they were aiming for the polish, they just hosed themselves because they aren’t good at consequences
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https://twitter.com/gilltaylor/status/1505405754710364166 Such small stupid people. Such smugness and moral superiority despite an existence entirely based on generations of barbaric genocide and intentional starving/exploitation of the global south.
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mind the walrus posted:A quick google has this on the first page: Idgi first they were angry because they said a trans woman would have some unfair advantage and would win races because of that. Now the trans woman has competed and not done well and they’re angry about that?
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Scratch Monkey posted:Idgi first they were angry because they said a trans woman would have some unfair advantage and would win races because of that. Now the trans woman has competed and not done well and they’re angry about that? They're saying "the trans woman has a natural advantage and shouldn't compete, and that's why she did very very well in one competition this year" but also "this is a "political" issue and it's us versus them and we're going to take great joy in her failures because she represents all of leftdom."
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Mar 20, 2022 17:16
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Ah the old fascist “our enemy is simultaneously overwhelmingly menacing and ridiculously inept” thing
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Exactly that. Concern trolling that inevitably gives way to out-and-out bullying and celebration of pain. It'd be more pathetic if it didn't run like a clockwork machine of eternally soft-pricked rage.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Ah the old fascist “our enemy is simultaneously overwhelmingly menacing and ridiculously inept” thing I remember the lead up to the US invading Iraq being about how the Iraq military represented a clear and present threat and then the gloating about how weak the Iraq military was when the US invaded.
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Bigots were angry because they thought Lia had an unfair advantage against cis women. Lia pre transition was ranked 400 something among the men then wins a women's match. This gives them the impression Lia transitioned in part due to having weaker competition. There was of course a notorious South Park episode a few years back and people are pointing to that episode and claiming this is where the future is headed in women's athletics. This fuels their slippery slope arguments so if you point out how rare trans athletes are they'll just act like this will inevitably be so common as to dominate these sports. Sadly it isn't just transphobes coming out of the woodwork to suddenly care about the dignity of the sport. Though among people active in, say, women's swimming it is overwhelmingly either the parents of athletes or older adults who previously swam in HS/college who are critical of trans athletes. I haven't heard much direct criticism from the swimmers themselves, there was a controversial article about how the other members of the team are uncomfortable seeing/changing in front of Lia. This is kind of dubious for two reasons: one, the story came I think not directly from a teammate but from a 'friend' who spoke on their behalf. Two, I really doubt a trans athlete already facing enormous and humiliating amounts of scrutiny would go out of their way to give transphobes ammo. The other ironic thing is that people will keep suggesting the other competitors just refuse to leave the starting block in protest, or refuse to attend, yet this doesn't seem to happen very much or fox news/Prager U would be singing it from the heavens. It's so unacceptable and yet nobody is doing anything about it, which must infuriate them to no end. Also, seems like there could be an angle for whatever cis woman gets beaten by a trans competitor. So many people who think they were 'robbed' of a victory that if they really wanted they could easily play into the narrative by emphasizing how hard they trained and how disappointed they didn't win. Of course, this in itself contradicts the narrative in itself - how much of a tragedy is it for them to get second place when losing to a trans woman gets them more notoriety than winning against other cis women?
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:I know that college sports are a big thing in America and all but do people actually care about college swimming? Swimming is afaik a sport people care about once every four years when the Summer Olympics come around. Not widely, no. There is a solid enough following of college swimming fans that keeps it afloat, though 
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Press [F] to get erect
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Are men who are less invested in maintaining strict gender roles more likely to use available medication to treat an issue? Or are they just giant pussies? - Researchers
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Researchers """speculate""" that the data they've collected about boner pills somehow proves feminism "forfeits" masculinity. This is real science so you have to take us seriously. It's either that they want to have fulfilling, mutually enjoyable sex with their partners OR... that their sociological beliefs are somehow physically making their bodies unable to get boners. One of the two!
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