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I can't wait for the redraw to finally be finished so we can tear into how that hack Murata ruined ONE's transcendent masterpiece.
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I will force everyone in the redraw thread to read through the "everyone jobs to Garou until Saitama is allowed to fight by virtue of being the only one standing" segment. I will go to their houses if they say they won't because of the art.
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Mar 23, 2022 22:33
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https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1506714880052711425?t=rhB54R13MkntpwVSXo7IpQ&s=19 I am sad that, at least for now, this bit is gone
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mabels big day posted:https://twitter.com/TheGoldenSmurf/status/1506714880052711425?t=rhB54R13MkntpwVSXo7IpQ&s=19 Twitter is a dumpster. Mostly talking about the website overall, but I'm sure this specific person complaining would be boring too if I could read it. 
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Mar 24, 2022 01:09
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oh jay posted:Twitter is a dumpster. Mostly talking about the website overall, but I'm sure this specific person complaining would be boring too if I could read it. it's the same as what embedded into SA, that's just apparently how twitter is showing how they used the 18+ tags in order to spoiler tag things
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Mar 24, 2022 01:15
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Also the person in question posts their drawn porn on that account.
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Mar 24, 2022 02:24
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Lamebot posted:Also the person in question posts their drawn porn on that account. So they're braver than Murata, gotcha.
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Mar 24, 2022 03:26
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I just caught up from a year ago and man there were not many chapters since March 2021
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Mar 24, 2022 04:30
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oh jay posted:Twitter is a dumpster. Mostly talking about the website overall, but I'm sure this specific person complaining would be boring too if I could read it. I just use nitter to read through people's tweets since it removes a lot of the jank from the actual website, doesn't require me to login to navigate properly, and also lets me set up RSS feeds for people so I can just skim posts through my reader.
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Mar 24, 2022 14:30
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I hit up this thread first because it was at the top of my fav list, and I was like "the new chapter couldn't have been that bad, just the OG thread being down on the redraw again" but it was really that bad. goddamn I've liked some of the redraw changes to this arc, but the whole softening of Garou's image feels like a huge revision that will weaken the moment his confidence gets shattered by Saitama. Totally agree with that twitter post that his design is too similar to Boros, but I think the Murata version is too clean to pull off the psycho darkness version of Garou.
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Mar 24, 2022 16:47
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And I think the tedious whiners who love to poo poo on the manga after every release for skipping their favorite bit suck. You're almost always wrong. The redraw includes almost everything from the WC and this fight is unlikely to be different.
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Mar 24, 2022 16:59
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Fellis posted:I hit up this thread first because it was at the top of my fav list, and I was like "the new chapter couldn't have been that bad, just the OG thread being down on the redraw again" Otoh, that very cleanness wouldve made a good rendition of the psycho darkness all the more striking. I'm sure murata could figure something out for that if they wanted, but as said above clearly ONE is taking this arc in a different directon
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Mar 24, 2022 17:08
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I'm not ready to assume we're about to just jump into the big epic fight with Saitama. The last panel in the chapter showed the support team helicopter, and we know Psykos is still out there somewhere. I think we could see some drama with her and Tareo as a hostage, and then maybe the Fubuki fight, or something. I keep trying to predict what will happen, and I'm constantly wrong, so... Basically, in short, I don't want to judge until everything is finished.
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Mar 24, 2022 17:23
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Brandfarlig posted:And I think the tedious whiners who love to poo poo on the manga after every release for skipping their favorite bit suck. You're almost always wrong. The redraw includes almost everything from the WC and this fight is unlikely to be different. The manga sure as hell isn't bad because it doesn't have enough content but because it has too much. Beyond killing the pacing it dramatically alters the context. If this fight has all my favorite moments from the webcomic then that would be terrible, because they wouldn't make any sense here. Garou is already a good guy and he already knows he's a good guy. What would be the point?
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gently caress you I'm a tedious whiner The framing is whats off. Garou's already interacted with other heroes positively since the raid began. Hes presented a lot softer and definitely a lot less confident in his own thoughts and actions. If the manga does do the same as the WC from this point on it will not land with the a fraction of the same weight
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Mar 24, 2022 17:27
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The best part of the Raid's redraws was Zombieman vs Pureblood Vampire and subsequently mercing a room full of monsters. Anything involving Garou has become the worst part of the redraws.
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Mar 24, 2022 17:36
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Do people who hate the manga, still follow it the way I used to hate watch the later seasons of the The Walking Dead? If so, that makes me a bit sad because I genuinely love this series (both versions), and online spaces are the only place to talk about it since no one in my real life is interested in this sort of stuff. I typically prefer the SA forums because I usually respect goons' perspectives on art, so its very deflating to see such hostility all the time - the unstated implication being that I'm a stupid loser for liking something that is so obviously flawed and bad.
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Mar 24, 2022 17:40
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I don't think so. Like, even if it changes some of the things people liked about the webcomic, it is still pretty good and watching Murata pour his soul into every page is a beautiful thing to behold.
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Mar 24, 2022 18:12
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You guys need to lighten up, the webcomic isn't being removed from the Internet or anything.
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Mar 24, 2022 18:18
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its viewed as obsolete by many
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Mar 24, 2022 18:21
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the manga is awesome
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Bucswabe posted:Do people who hate the manga, still follow it the way I used to hate watch the later seasons of the The Walking Dead? If so, that makes me a bit sad because I genuinely love this series (both versions), and online spaces are the only place to talk about it since no one in my real life is interested in this sort of stuff. I don't hate read, I skim through the pages to behold muratas incredible artistic skill but my emotional investment is zero in either direction. Inertia read is more appropriate lol.
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Mar 24, 2022 18:37
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Bucswabe posted:Do people who hate the manga, still follow it the way I used to hate watch the later seasons of the The Walking Dead? If so, that makes me a bit sad because I genuinely love this series (both versions), and online spaces are the only place to talk about it since no one in my real life is interested in this sort of stuff. Speaking personally, I still quite like the manga, but the fact that it can't decide if it wants to be the webcomic but more and better drawn or if it wants to be its own story is a major problem. Sincerely, it should diverge from the webcomic more! The stuff with new characters is largely excellent! The new fights (that aren't Pheonixman or those two ninjas...) are great! But it keeps circling back to the webcomic plot in a manner that makes increasingly less sense. The manga should just own that and go it's own direction.
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Mar 24, 2022 19:01
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Stairmaster posted:its viewed as obsolete by many The one person that matters for that is ONE, and he still updates it (though less often than the manga), so who cares what other people think?
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Bucswabe posted:I typically prefer the SA forums because I usually respect goons' perspectives on art, so its very deflating to see such hostility all the time - the unstated implication being that I'm a stupid loser for liking something that is so obviously flawed and bad.
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Mar 24, 2022 19:11
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Murata and ONE are pouring their heart into the manga version and it's gorgeous. It also lacks the same emotional punch as the webcomic right now and it's mostly down to pacing. Comparing the two versions of this arc could be used as a case study in narrative efficiency and the old writer's adage of "killing your darlings." E: Also a criticism of the OPM manga is not an implicit criticism of the people who enjoy it, of you see someone griping about a perceived misstep it's because they love another version of the story and are disappointed in an aspect of its retelling. Making it personal beyond that might be a common reaction to seeing something you like being criticized but it's misguided sentiment. Runa fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 24, 2022 |
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Im enjoying the ONE/Murato version immensely for the majority of its run. They clearly wanted the rest of the S-Hero's to have more presence and define their characters more in the new version. However, I will have to concede this has hurt the climax with Garou as it was suppose to establish just how above he had become all the S-Heros and their monster equivalents. Also while he was established as an anti-hero early on, even in the original, the original climax was selling us on the idea Garou may be crossing a point of no return where as with the new one there really isn't any doubt he still a good guy deep down.
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I'll admit there's lots of things I've wanted to discuss about the differences between the manga and the webcomic and the things that have been better or worse between the two, but I've largely held off because it seemed like the predominant opinion of this thread was that the manga sucks and people have no interest.
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The manga actually owns though
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Runa posted:E: Also a criticism of the OPM manga is not an implicit criticism of the people who enjoy it, of you see someone griping about a perceived misstep it's because they love another version of the story and are disappointed in an aspect of its retelling. I'd think manga fans in particular would be able to appreciate that adaptations aren't always 100% faithful. I'm not at all concerned with something I like being criticized, just a little frustrated at the negativity. You have to admit that it probably chokes out discussion to some extent. I came in this thread to see how people would react to the fireworks factory and it was a little disheartening. I like the webcomic more too, and the manga going in a different direction (which ONE ostensibly wants to explore) doesn't replace or supercede it in any way. If the concern is that people will think this is the One True Version then...so what? I'd love to know there's an even better version of something than the one I know and enjoy, personally. I don't know, maybe I'm a bit too sensitive, it's just like hey guys, why be negative about a thing you like because it didn't go exactly how you hoped?
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I think it's just a matter of waiting for years to see it, there's just high expectations is all. And yeah even though there's some things I'm disappointed with in the manga version it's still very good on its own merits. I honestly think this latest chapter is also pretty good, it is however going to be interesting to see how the climax plays out since, again, that's where the big emotional payoff is. It's funny that Saitama's line about destroying the planet was moved here rather than being tucked away in an offhand, but incredibly ominous joke during the initial descent into the Monster Association.
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Bucswabe posted:Do people who hate the manga, still follow it the way I used to hate watch the later seasons of the The Walking Dead? If so, that makes me a bit sad because I genuinely love this series (both versions), and online spaces are the only place to talk about it since no one in my real life is interested in this sort of stuff. For my part, I agree with most of the criticisms leveraged against Manga opm vs webcomic opm, but even a somewhat adulterated version of something extremely good is something very good. Also it's not like I see it as a strict downgrade. Despite the storytelling warts, the art is a different flavor of very good from ONE's sketchy yet surprisingly canny semi-outsider art, and I like having both. It's like different performers of the same play.
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murata may just redraw any or all of this anyway
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One of the things I wonder about is how much our impressions are affected by having to wait (sometimes a long time) for updates to the story . Curious to know if any of the people who prefer the webcomic think that it's the superior version of anything that happened up to the end of the Boros arc? ...and just to be clear, I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. I like the discussion, and don't mean to cause drama!
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pik_d posted:The manga actually owns though  It's fumbled a few times but it's still really good overall. The endless Phoenixman redraws were annoying as hell but the end result was actually pretty great in a vacuum/volume form. And while the Garou confrontation definitely falls a bit flat it's also only just starting. There's been a lot of changes so far in the arc, both big and small, and it might not end the same way. It's best to save a full judgment until it's done, even if it's a letdown for now.
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If they’re aiming for the same conclusion here then I definitely agree that the climax will be less impactful than the webcomic. However, I’m still enjoying the ride, and I feel like ONE has a trick up his sleeve he hasn’t revealed yet that’ll really stick the landing here
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Bucswabe posted:I'll admit there's lots of things I've wanted to discuss about the differences between the manga and the webcomic and the things that have been better or worse between the two, but I've largely held off because it seemed like the predominant opinion of this thread was that the manga sucks and people have no interest. I'm pretty down on the Murata version but even then it's a pretty great manga. This arc is way too long, but there's still incredible action and great gags. Like the King Motion Wave Cannon in the Murata version just edges out the original
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Bucswabe posted:One of the things I wonder about is how much our impressions are affected by having to wait (sometimes a long time) for updates to the story . quote:Curious to know if any of the people who prefer the webcomic think that it's the superior version of anything that happened up to the end of the Boros arc?
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I like the manga still. I want more anime. I love the animation of S1
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