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oh hell yeah more Yan I loving love 'em to bits let's gooooGilliamYaeger posted:Very powerful card. Sadly it's Sweeper exclusive, none of the Sweepers have Speed and Corpse Cleanup isn't useful enough to rectify that. Speed is transferable, the actual problem with the sweepers is that their resistances suck major rear end; a weakness to pierce was a liability back in Urban Legend and will get you killed in three turns flat in UN. TQ is free! Freeeeeee
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MetaMeme posted:A BIG HONKIN' NO NO No spoilers! Please, edit the first part of your post out!
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I was like 'oh, the Sweepers! I love the Sweepers!' And then OH HELL YES. OH gently caress YES.
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I feel like assuming Yan will show up when a prescript is involved is roughly on par with assuming the nurse or doctor will show up when the train is involved. Anyways I'm honestly just kind of amazed you guys finished the poll so quickly. Doesn't it normally take you a day or so to get me results?  Well, whatever. Far left node part 2 it is. 
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Apr 4, 2022 13:36
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The city offers no free will, why would it be the same here?
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So should we be worried that the poll is being hijacked by those Prescript guys?
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the Orb of Zot posted:So should we be worried that the poll is being hijacked by those Prescript guys? I don’t know what you’re talking about we all voted for the follow up mode, we wanted to see what came after sweepers after all. Speaking of, liquified human remains being what’s inside of them sure is what I remembered them being made out of and makes them a lot more distressing on the whole abducting children thing.
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dervival posted:What, is the thread on the back of four elephants now? Don't be ridiculous. We all know only one city on the back of four elephants have whatever they would call democracy. And no, I clearly see a choice here for the next invitation. The same kind of choice that our guests have been being offered.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Speaking of, liquified human remains being what’s inside of them sure is what I remembered them being made out of and makes them a lot more distressing on the whole abducting children thing. I'm assuming it's both? They're made from liquefied humans and consume more to sustain themselves and grow, but their individual consciousnesses need to come from somewhere. Truly artificial life is still illegal.
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Y'know, I just realized something. A female figure described as a "mother" that turns those she cares about into horrible, man-eating red-pink slime monsters that love her back with all their heart? That sounds... ...familiar. And if that's the case, then that makes this bit especially interesting: Melting Love dossier posted:"Today, I’d like to talk about the recent incident everyone has heard of. That’s right, that dreadful incident when an army of slimes took over our facility for (Redacted) minutes. There were several containers left in the (Redacted) lab which were not processed properly during the experiment related to (Redacted). If you know about the (Redacted) experiment, you would already know that the contents of those containers are merely useless leftovers that only prove the experiment has failed. Sounds to me like LobCorp were attempting to make their own Sweepers.
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Tenebrais posted:I'm assuming it's both? They're made from liquefied humans and consume more to sustain themselves and grow, but their individual consciousnesses need to come from somewhere. Truly artificial life is still illegal. I feel like the answer to individual consciousness stuff is that they're made from a single liquified child to start, which is the thing that is distressing.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I feel like the answer to individual consciousness stuff is that they're made from a single liquified child to start, which is the thing that is distressing. Ah, right, misread your post - thought you'd said "more distressing than" rather than "on". Yes, it's some very good horror that way. I am vaguely reminded that liquefying a child's body to produce a new form is what happens to a caterpillar in a cocoon.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I feel like the answer to individual consciousness stuff is that they're made from a single liquified child to start, which is the thing that is distressing.
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Does a sweeper's identity come from the human juice inside 'em, or from the suit itself? They seem to use the juice as fuel, so when it runs out do they die or just become inert? If you were to "refuel" an empty sweeper, would it have the same name and personality as before? I can see why the Carnival hated eating them so much. It probably takes a lot more effort to turn juice into silk, as opposed to like, regular flesh. ...hey, wait a minute. TeeQueue posted:
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GilliamYaeger posted:I personally feel like it's less distressing than what the Iron Brotherhood did to themselves. This is, after all, a setting where transhumanism is the norm. And considering how many Sweepers there are, there must be some major benefit to the process in terms of how many resources an individual needs to survive. The distressing thing to me is that the Iron Brotherhood did that to themselves so it sucks a lot but was self-inflicted. Sweepers seem to abduct children and give them to their "mother" to make more Sweepers, as in potentially liquifying those children.
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red plastic cup posted:I can see why the Carnival hated eating them so much. It probably takes a lot more effort to turn juice into silk, as opposed to like, regular flesh. All the joys of eating years-old rotting flesh, now in smoothie format!
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I don't have an easy way to check right now, but doesn't burn/bleed damage end up bypassing the sweepers' Persistence? I seem to recall that being how I made it through this reception the first time.
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The cannibal chefs were making meat jam out of people, probably including children, and now we know the sweepers are liquifying children too. Seems like liquified children are a hot commodity in the City. Maybe they're traded on an exchange somewhere. People negotiating contracts on barrels of child juice. Buying puts and calls and other derivatives to speculate on children goo.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:The cannibal chefs were making meat jam out of people, probably including children, and now we know the sweepers are liquifying children too. Seems like liquified children are a hot commodity in the City. Maybe they're traded on an exchange somewhere. People negotiating contracts on barrels of child juice. Buying puts and calls and other derivatives to speculate on children goo.
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Meanwhile, they aged up Tipheret because they didn't want to show a child engaging in combat. I'm not disagreeing with their decision. It's just a rare occasion when you can know exactly where someone draws the line.
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NullBlack posted:Meanwhile, they aged up Tipheret because they didn't want to show a child engaging in combat. The line is on-screen visible violence towards children increases ratings, off-screen implied violence as textual information does not.
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Lord_Magmar posted:The line is on-screen visible violence towards children increases ratings, off-screen implied violence as textual information does not. Also "bashing someone to death with a cinderblock" and "involuntary transformation into a goo monster" are both technically violent imagery but there's a distinction to be made between visual representations of realistic violence and fantastic scenarios have no physical-reality equivalent.
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I remember the time spent grinding this easy yet lengthy fight for them Haulers back in the day, and for that reason alone it's my... 3rd least favorite reception in the game. (The other 2 are also in Urban Nightmare) (Those who have played the game will know exactly which ones)
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I'm feeling kind of dumb because I don't really know what the assistant librarians were talking about there with Mizu. It's been a while since I read through the original LobCorp thread at this point.
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Switch was one of the 12 "Blessed" that turned into WhiteNight's minions, hence why he accidentally called it "Savior".
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NullBlack posted:Meanwhile, they aged up Tipheret because they didn't want to show a child engaging in combat. While it might be a case of not wanting to show a small child being impaled/shot/etc. I wonder if it was also to make putting her in certain bodies (such as Miyo, with her... abundant décolletage) slightly less creepy. Or at the very least, not require a third body type for a bunch of (if not all) Key Pages, just for Tipheret.
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...did you mean Sayo, or Meow? Or possibly Myo even though we haven't seen her in Ruina?
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 : "I like trains." : "Yes dear..."Junpei posted:Switch was one of the 12 "Blessed" that turned into WhiteNight's minions, hence why he accidentally called it "Savior". Just in case this comes up again (and because I can't remember if this was addressed earlier in this 100+ page thread, apologies if it was), here's a refresher on who the Apostles are:
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xelada posted:While it might be a case of not wanting to show a small child being impaled/shot/etc. I wonder if it was also to make putting her in certain bodies (such as Miyo, with her... abundant décolletage) slightly less creepy. Or at the very least, not require a third body type for a bunch of (if not all) Key Pages, just for Tipheret. That actually makes a lot of sense. Barely Legal(?) Tipheret's head on Sayo's body already has that tinge of skeeviness; Child Tipheret would be flat out wrong.
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Goodness yeah, I hadn't even considered the clothes-swapping and body-swapping aspects, along with everything they imply. That's way more understandable. We're not playing Cardcaptor Sakura or Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA here. ...Which in hindsight is really ironic since we have actual Magical Girls, though I will argue these ones are more Madoka Magica-style.
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Zereth posted:sweepers are what. Yeah, uh, same. I feel like this was just kind of glossed over. But holy poo poo, apparently they're liquified people? Or they just eat liquified people? Like some sort of jam in a metal outfit? And then they harvest people by turning them into some sort of goop? I have so many questions about sweeper ecology.
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humans are already like 70% liquid, what's another 30%
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Lord_Magmar posted:The line is on-screen visible violence towards children increases ratings, off-screen implied violence as textual information does not. Pretty sure all PM games already have the highest rating possible 
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I am so glad I wasn't eating something while reading about Sweeper ecology. This fight is the one people generally recommend you start Urban Nightmare with, anyway. I really do adore their passives and some of their cards... This, plus another Reception, basically crafted my deck for the entirety of Urban Nightmare.
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shimmy shimmy posted:I'm feeling kind of dumb because I don't really know what the assistant librarians were talking about there with Mizu. It's been a while since I read through the original LobCorp thread at this point. I'll step up for this! Mizu was one of the original agents that took on a bit of a life of her own after TQ's MS paint update (pretty early) and some fanart of Mizu and all the heck cuties (aka Abnos) she loved. Basically became a bit of a thread meme that she was an abno in her own right. TQ eventually went with the lovely narrative twist that Mizu's uh, interesting mental state was due to experiments with the Well and Binah at some point. Also she smelled of jerky. 
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There's technically a tier higher: AO, but most box stores and online platforms outright refuse to sell AO-rated games. AO games tend to be outright porn or games like Hatred.
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I remember using Lyla's page as a speed-less base for one of my builds and sticking a Speed die on it. It worked out ok, though I never got the build to function the way I wanted to. The Sweepers are showing a relatively common setup from here, where the enemy has 3 waves and you have 2 available floors. My go-to tactic here on my first playthrough was to use a Floor on the 1st wave, a 2nd floor on the 2nd, and then use the healthier floor to open the 3rd. I didn't use Full Stop my first go around, so this ensured I never had an emotion 0 floor to follow up if I needed to. Granted, that didn't actually come up all that often unless I had gotten lazy and hadn't updated my decks in a while. I found in a lot of cases, the 3 wave-2 floor battles simply can't drain all the bulk of your floors if you fight it like that. Edit: I'll note that Steam seems to be releasing the restrictions on the porn games if their store page is anything to judge by. Granted I never actually looked at them to check for an AO rating I suppose.
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Evil Kit posted:Also she smelled of jerky.
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Robindaybird posted:There's technically a tier higher: AO, but most box stores and online platforms outright refuse to sell AO-rated games. also for things that don't fit into prescriptive bins there are "evaluation pending" or "rejected for classification" or otherwise "not rated" because some authority declaring a work obscene/heretical/etc doesn't retroactively negate its creation
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