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Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Rutibex posted:

I do not like the look of this, it seems like the same trick pulled by D20 toolbox. Look at all the wasted white space on those pages. I think he is going to use a less compact formatting and boost the page count without adding any content. The kickstarter is bragging on the page count and doesn't say anything about new content:

They explicitly say the main addition are the micro-prompt lists on the margins.



I imagine other than that, it's mostly the same book that is laid out prettier, which I am fine with.

I checked my copy of the old TOAD and the free Kickstarter preview. The table in the old version is two and a half pages; it's three and a half in the new version. That about checks out; if you own the old version, you probably don't need the new one.

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Ah, RIP my kickstarter budget, I want it. That looks like it could be amazing for just creative writing prompts in general.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Megazver posted:

They explicitly say the main addition are the micro-prompt lists on the margins.



I imagine other than that, it's mostly the same book that is laid out prettier, which I am fine with.

I checked my copy of the old TOAD and the free Kickstarter preview. The table in the old version is two and a half pages; it's three and a half in the new version. That about checks out; if you own the old version, you probably don't need the new one.

I hate that new feature. I bought a pdf of Tome of Adventure design and printed a copy to put into my book of tables. It's actually the basis of all the sections in my big binder of tables.

But those micro-prompts are embedded in a pure black bar. That bar will make printing the new book absolute hell on ink. Meaning you gotta buy his print on demand if you want a physical copy (old pdf is gone!). It's his book obviously so he can do what he wants but I'm slightly irked.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

I’m very glad they gave me a word to define a concept that I used when making The Dungeon Master’s Deck. Every card is a random table, but I added story cube style icons on top and modifier or adjacent micro prompts on the bottom of each card as well. I figured there was a German term for it, nice to find it.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Ended up revisiting Starforged and off to a decent start. Wrote up an in-character prose version of the setting truths that I ended up liking quite a bit, then of course made a character that didn't fit with that perspective so it's a little disconnected, lol. But maybe this third or fourth time is the charm for making things work. Fingers crossed?

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


I rolled up all the prep work for a Starforged campaign back when playtesting first started pre-KS and really, really liked the completely randomly-generated world I came up with and the character that I ended up with. I never really found the time to properly sit down with it, but it's a world I've wanted to go back to for awhile now.

Turns out my character was a frontier doctor (unsanctioned by the official Healer's guild, ofc) whose colony was destroyed by a pandemic of something called the Ironphage that threatened to expand to the sector at large, and who took on an epic quest to find a cure.

And as cool as that idea felt at the time, two years after Covid I just can't do this storyline anymore.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Drone posted:

I rolled up all the prep work for a Starforged campaign back when playtesting first started pre-KS and really, really liked the completely randomly-generated world I came up with and the character that I ended up with. I never really found the time to properly sit down with it, but it's a world I've wanted to go back to for awhile now.

Turns out my character was a frontier doctor (unsanctioned by the official Healer's guild, ofc) whose colony was destroyed by a pandemic of something called the Ironphage that threatened to expand to the sector at large, and who took on an epic quest to find a cure.

And as cool as that idea felt at the time, two years after Covid I just can't do this storyline anymore.

Ouch. Yeah, there's a few games that have fallen into the territory of "boy, I can't really do this right now" for me following the events of the last few years. I had a Red Markets campaign brewing that I was about ready to take to my group, and then poo poo went sideways and it was definitely not nearly as "unrealistic" of horror as it could have been.

Maybe another character in the same world would let you go forward with the setting you enjoyed? It doesn't seem too hard to keep the broad strokes and focus somewhere else.

Ubersandwich
Jun 1, 2003

I keep having to remind myself in Ironsworn that I can pay the price with a narrative disadvantage or potential danger rather than HAVING to subtract numbers from my character. On one hand it feels like I'm cheating, but I know everyone who plays the game, including Shawn, says it's not.

It's just the old D&Der in me wants to have every round or conflict be a "Swing-> Hit/Miss -> Damage".

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Speaking of, Starforged just added a great reference card just for that.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Ubersandwich posted:

I keep having to remind myself in Ironsworn that I can pay the price with a narrative disadvantage or potential danger rather than HAVING to subtract numbers from my character. On one hand it feels like I'm cheating, but I know everyone who plays the game, including Shawn, says it's not.

It's just the old D&Der in me wants to have every round or conflict be a "Swing-> Hit/Miss -> Damage".

I was fighting a mysterious space jellyfish in an abandoned derelict when I had to Pay the Price. I rolled Action + Theme and got Defeat History. This could only mean that this was a psychic jellyfish capable of feeding on people's memories. Now I am stuck in a barely functional derelict, with no memory of how I got here or what I am supposed to be doing.

I saw people earlier, but they fled at my approach, and then I fell into an open maintenance shaft and got lost. Now I am thinking that these people have also had their memories drained by the psychic jellyfish. The crew are still here! They have merely forgotten how to operate the ship.

This is my first time playing Ironsworn, and I am really impressed by how every new twist seems to explain things that happened earlier, even though nothing is actually planned out in advance.

SimonChris fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 4, 2022

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

SimonChris posted:

I was fighting a mysterious space jellyfish in an abandoned derelict when I had to Pay the Price. I rolled Action + Theme and got Defeat History. This could only mean that this was a psychic jellyfish capable of feeding on people's memories. Now I am stuck in a barely functional derelict, with no memory of how I got here or what I am supposed to be doing.

I saw people earlier, but they fled at my approach, and then I fell into an open maintenance shaft and got lost. Now I am thinking that these people have also had their memories drained by the psychic jellyfish. The crew are still here! They have merely forgotten how to operate the ship.

This is my first time playing Ironsworn, and I am really impressed by how every new twist seems to explain things that happened earlier, even though nothing is actually planned out in advance.

Sounds like quite a lot of fun, and a creative use of that oracle pull. Very nice.

Not having as much luck on my own effort - aforementioned game already petered out and any interest in it is dead. Ah well. I'm sure I'll be finding myself in the same place again in 3 months, like the last several times.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

SkyeAuroline posted:

Sounds like quite a lot of fun, and a creative use of that oracle pull. Very nice.

Not having as much luck on my own effort - aforementioned game already petered out and any interest in it is dead. Ah well. I'm sure I'll be finding myself in the same place again in 3 months, like the last several times.

It's okay if the stories peter out. You don't have to finish for it to be a worthwhile activity.

You might know this but I know it's a sticking point for some people.

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

HopperUK posted:

It's okay if the stories peter out. You don't have to finish for it to be a worthwhile activity.

You might know this but I know it's a sticking point for some people.

It is, and I remarked on the same to a friend who read what I wrote. I'm consistently disappointed by the results of solo games, but it's still worthwhile to engage creatively with something, even if it doesn't necessarily work out.

I would prefer to get a little farther than "prologue and swearing my first vow" next time, though.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
I was wondering if people could recommend some general RPG resources useful for solo playing, in particular with regard to procedural content generation? One can always use more random generation tables, encounter decks, etc.

I would like to start out by recommending Downcrall and Skycrawl, which are system-neutral sourcebooks for generating adventures in a mysterious underground world and/or among floating island kingdoms, with lost of tables for weird areas, characters, and items. Both can easily be adapted for Ironsworn or similar systems. I mean who couldn't use a random psychedelic mushroom generator for their Ironsworn campaign?

Anyone else have any recommendations?

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

SimonChris posted:

I was wondering if people could recommend some general RPG resources useful for solo playing, in particular with regard to procedural content generation? One can always use more random generation tables, encounter decks, etc.

I would like to start out by recommending Downcrall and Skycrawl, which are system-neutral sourcebooks for generating adventures in a mysterious underground world and/or among floating island kingdoms, with lost of tables for weird areas, characters, and items. Both can easily be adapted for Ironsworn or similar systems. I mean who couldn't use a random psychedelic mushroom generator for their Ironsworn campaign?

Anyone else have any recommendations?

Thank you for giving me an excuse to make this post :v:

D30 DM Companion & D30 Sandbox Companion:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/102567/d30-DM-Companion
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/124392/d30-Sandbox-Companion

Kevin Crawfords Worlds/Stars without Number & Scarlet Heroes
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/226996/Stars-Without-Number-Revised-Edition?src=hottest_filtered
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/348791/Worlds-Without-Number
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/127180/Scarlet-Heroes

Wilderness Hexplore Revised:
http://www.jedmc.com/ixdd/2016/7/12/wilderness-hexplore

Judges Guild (these will be hard to find)
-Wilderlands of High Fantasy
-Campaign Hexagon System
-Castles book I&II
-Village book I&II
-Field Guide to Encounters 1&2

Tome of Adventure Design
https://fggstaging.com/product/tome-of-adventure-design/

Solo Game Masters Guide:
https://modiphius.us/products/solo-game-masters-guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmevQ7JsKMw

D20 Toolbox:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/3537/Toolbox

Hackmaster:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/109620/HackMaster-Players-Handbook
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/178041/HackMaster-GameMasters-Guide

Dungeon Crawl Classics:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/101050/Dungeon-Crawl-Classics-RPG-DCC-RPG

Metamorphica Revised:
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/198038/The-Metamorphica-Revised

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
I've seen the following recommended for their scifi random tables but I don't own them so I can't speak to their content.

Book of Random Tables: Science Fiction 1
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/244529/The-Book-of-Random-Tables-Science-Fiction

Book of Random Tables: Science Fiction 2
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/301859/The-Book-of-Random-Tables-Science-Fiction-2

Science Fiction Codex of Lists 1
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/108333/Science-Fiction-Codex-of-Lists-2nd-Edition

Science Fiction Codex of Lists 2
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/114967/Science-Fiction-Codex-of-Lists-2-2nd-Edition

If you wanted to look further afield, there are a couple wargames that have useful tables.

Rogue Stars has 7 pages of tables for missions and environments and a few more pages than that if you were looking for scifi factions, equipment and psionic powers. In terms of Rogue Stars as a wargame, I'd recommend you look up Guerilla Miniature Games Rogue Stars video on youtube to get a feel for it. The action economy is different from wargames I've usually played and not everyone likes it.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/283384/Rogue-Stars-Skirmish-Wargaming-in-a-Science-Fiction-Underworld

5 Parsecs from Home the scifi solo wargame I've talked about before also has tables for generating enemies, towns, trade, character events and starship travel. As a solo wargame I highly enjoy this product.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/358938/Five-Parsecs-From-Home--Solo-Adventure-Wargaming

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
Those Book of Random Tables things are bland as all hell. Stars/Worlds Without Number and googling random tables will serve you much better honestly.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

ShutteredIn posted:

Those Book of Random Tables things are bland as all hell. Stars/Worlds Without Number and googling random tables will serve you much better honestly.

The only ones of those I ever got and found genuinely inspiring are the ones by Madeline Hale that you can get cheap in paperback on Amazon. She has one of magical objects that has genuinely fun and inspiring ideas in it, and the other ones of hers are pretty good too.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
There are also a few free programs that I use. When I want to generate a hexmap I use Hexographer. You can set it to generate all kinds of random terrain and populate it with random icons. This gives you a really great base for a solo game, you just need to roll up details as you trek along. I find that 16x21 fits well onto a single sheet of paper for printing:
https://www.hexographer.com/free-version/



There are also a lot of great random dungeon generators. One-Page-Dungeon I find is best if you are gonna print things out (its only one page :v:) But Donjon is great too if you give it the right settings (the wrong settings will destroy your printer!). I print out a bunch of these unkeyed dungeons, then make up a bunch of dungeon keys separately. You simply combine different dungeon keys with different layouts to make new dungeons, kind of like Gloomhaven
https://watabou.itch.io/one-page-dungeon
https://donjon.bin.sh/d20/dungeon/

Rutibex fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Apr 10, 2022

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Oh hell yeah, thank you. I wanted something like the hex program for 5 Leagues. Does it also do sci-if? (probably not) that would be good for Starforged.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Doctor Zero posted:

Oh hell yeah, thank you. I wanted something like the hex program for 5 Leagues. Does it also do sci-if? (probably not) that would be good for Starforged.

Yeah you can set up the tiles for space and planets too. It takes some time because thats not the default but its there.

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

SimonChris posted:

I was wondering if people could recommend some general RPG resources useful for solo playing, in particular with regard to procedural content generation? One can always use more random generation tables, encounter decks, etc.

I would like to start out by recommending Downcrall and Skycrawl, which are system-neutral sourcebooks for generating adventures in a mysterious underground world and/or among floating island kingdoms, with lost of tables for weird areas, characters, and items. Both can easily be adapted for Ironsworn or similar systems. I mean who couldn't use a random psychedelic mushroom generator for their Ironsworn campaign?

Anyone else have any recommendations?

I cannot recommend Veins of the Earth highly enough if you're doing anything focused on going underground, or deep time, or just want something to put you in the right mood for powerfully unsettling weirdness. Lot of quite evocative random generation content in the back, too. And yes, you'll see it advertised as a Lamentations of the Flame Princess book, but it isn't - there's no LotFP content in there, it isn't associated with Raggi, it's just got that tag due to being published at a time when saying you were LotF-compatible was a requirement for publishing in the OSR space, and now it's permanently branded that way on DriveThru.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Kestral posted:

I cannot recommend Veins of the Earth highly enough if you're doing anything focused on going underground, or deep time, or just want something to put you in the right mood for powerfully unsettling weirdness. Lot of quite evocative random generation content in the back, too. And yes, you'll see it advertised as a Lamentations of the Flame Princess book, but it isn't - there's no LotFP content in there, it isn't associated with Raggi, it's just got that tag due to being published at a time when saying you were LotF-compatible was a requirement for publishing in the OSR space, and now it's permanently branded that way on DriveThru.

LotFP is the publisher, it's not just a tag. As in, they get percentages if you buy a new copy, digital or physical. It was also edited by :zak:.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Kestral posted:

I cannot recommend Veins of the Earth highly enough if you're doing anything focused on going underground, or deep time, or just want something to put you in the right mood for powerfully unsettling weirdness. Lot of quite evocative random generation content in the back, too. And yes, you'll see it advertised as a Lamentations of the Flame Princess book, but it isn't - there's no LotFP content in there, it isn't associated with Raggi, it's just got that tag due to being published at a time when saying you were LotF-compatible was a requirement for publishing in the OSR space, and now it's permanently branded that way on DriveThru.

The ancient module D1 Decent into the Depths of the Earth is actually a random underdark hexcrawl. Its not as fancy as some of the newer stuff, but it's another set of charts to roll on if you are going DEEP DOWN
https://www.dmsguild.com/product/17041/D12-Descent-into-the-Depths-of-the-Earth-1e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-qWqJRA4uk

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Veins of the Earth sounds like wishlist material for when I have money, but who is Raggi and what is Lamentations of the Flame Princess :ohdear:

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Doctor Zero posted:

Oh hell yeah, thank you. I wanted something like the hex program for 5 Leagues.

This is a drat good idea.

Thanks for the Hexographer and other random dungeon generator recommendations Rutibex

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

Ragnar34 posted:

Veins of the Earth sounds like wishlist material for when I have money, but who is Raggi and what is Lamentations of the Flame Princess :ohdear:
James Edward Raggi IV is a creep and the publisher of the OSR game Lamentations of the Flame Princess, which was notable for having gory and gross art. The adventures for that game were grosser, because they insisted on mixing shitfarmer eldritch horror with sex stuff. Some of them were by Zak Smith, and Raggi was the last to cut ties with him once the full extent of Zak's shitpantness came to light.

Siivola fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Apr 12, 2022

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Ffffff

Well, maybe I can eventually find a used copy in the physical.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
So this doesn't say it's a journaling game or a solo RPG, but I'm pretty sure it is.

https://twitter.com/Sotherans/status/1510361300945321994?s=20&t=ABZaCKdYS-8yPF_juiLldA

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

Skwirl posted:

So this doesn't say it's a journaling game or a solo RPG, but I'm pretty sure it is.

https://twitter.com/Sotherans/status/1510361300945321994?s=20&t=ABZaCKdYS-8yPF_juiLldA

There is also this:

https://twitter.com/Sotherans/status/1513210507506954250

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I wish I was better at probability math so I could figure out the odds your brother sets your house on fire 2 days in a row without either dying or finishing your masterpiece first.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Kind of reminds me of You Are Quarantined With Adam Driver And He Is Insisting On Reading You His New Script.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Ragnar34 posted:

Ffffff

Well, maybe I can eventually find a used copy in the physical.

is there anywhere selling print copies? i don't use pdfs

Devorum
Jul 30, 2005


And how can we forget:

https://twitter.com/deathbybadger/status/1512436603549102082?t=LUNEVubaqzsFEU1YaFTLHw&s=19

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Ugh I love the models for Stargrave and I want to pre-order the new boxes but I hate having to pay $30 s&h and weeks to wait for them to show up to burgerland

At least the game play looks fun

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

I'm becom-, I'm becom-,
I'm becoming
Tana in, Tana in my mind.




We got to spend one night together! :woop: Then he left :negative:

10/10 would play again.

Ubersandwich
Jun 1, 2003

GreenBuckanneer posted:

Ugh I love the models for Stargrave and I want to pre-order the new boxes but I hate having to pay $30 s&h and weeks to wait for them to show up to burgerland

At least the game play looks fun

I haven't heard of this before and thanks to your comment I went down a rabbit hole of solo-wargames and absolutely amazed that this genre exists.. and a little concerned that I am probably going to get yet ANOTHER system this weekend to start.

Looking at 5 Parsecs from Home right now, because I am enamored with campaign play and rolling on tables. I am not truly happy unless I'm rolling on a table.

The only negative, if you could call it that is I am not a big mini guy. I don't enjoy collecting, painting etc minis, but I suppose I proxies and cardboard cutouts will do the trick.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Ubersandwich posted:

I haven't heard of this before and thanks to your comment I went down a rabbit hole of solo-wargames and absolutely amazed that this genre exists.. and a little concerned that I am probably going to get yet ANOTHER system this weekend to start.

Looking at 5 Parsecs from Home right now, because I am enamored with campaign play and rolling on tables. I am not truly happy unless I'm rolling on a table.

The only negative, if you could call it that is I am not a big mini guy. I don't enjoy collecting, painting etc minis, but I suppose I proxies and cardboard cutouts will do the trick.

Why not? Also, you can get pre-painted dnd minis, there's a fantasy option, Frostgrave

GreenBuckanneer fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Apr 13, 2022

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Lots of D&D/PF/SF/uh probably Star Wars too tokens out there if you want to run pogs on a battlemat, too.

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Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Ubersandwich posted:

I haven't heard of this before and thanks to your comment I went down a rabbit hole of solo-wargames and absolutely amazed that this genre exists.. and a little concerned that I am probably going to get yet ANOTHER system this weekend to start.

Looking at 5 Parsecs from Home right now, because I am enamored with campaign play and rolling on tables. I am not truly happy unless I'm rolling on a table.

The only negative, if you could call it that is I am not a big mini guy. I don't enjoy collecting, painting etc minis, but I suppose I proxies and cardboard cutouts will do the trick.

There are a lot of companies that do paper "minis". One Page Rules is one. https://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/16079/onepagerules?affiliate_id=2357452
I love the style!



Also, there's a company out there that does acrylic 2d minis that are super nice, but.... erm... can't remember who. Let me look around.

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