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sometimes i miss my old 17" trinitron from work. my current display is better by literally every metric, but still, man that thing was fuckin' crisp.
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infernal machines posted:that thing was fuckin' crisp. this is history literally clouding your vision, because even the best CRTs were nowhere near as sharp as a fixed pixel display still lolling at those people who always had to run their monitor at the max resolution, so they would set their 17" monitor to 1600x1200 and sat with their nose pressed against the screen trying to read fuzzy, microscopic text that the display didn't actually have the pixel density to fully resolve
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May 7, 2022 15:05
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did you read the words that i wrote or did you just want to dive in with a well, actually?
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May 7, 2022 15:07
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I had one of those electron blue 20" crts, man that was good monitor
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May 7, 2022 15:46
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The_Franz posted:this is history literally clouding your vision, because even the best CRTs were nowhere near as sharp as a fixed pixel display and having 60hz as the only supported refresh rate at that resolution, so looking at the screen for more than a few minutes gives you headaches for multiple reasons
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May 7, 2022 15:54
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infernal machines posted:sometimes i miss my old 17" trinitron from work. I had a 17.5" viewable viewsonic and I still feel bad for getting rid of it, despite its contemporary shortcomings Lysidas posted:and having 60hz as the only supported refresh rate at that resolution, so looking at the screen for more than a few minutes gives you headaches for multiple reasons that's what did it, for me. i could push to 2048x1536 but it felt like my eyes were desiccating. it'd do a buttery 1024x768, though, which was about what most games ram best at, then at that point i also had a 15" 1024x768 sony lcd and redraw rate and viewing angle aside it was so much easier on my eyes for long work sessions
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May 7, 2022 16:16
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lcds dragging everything back down to 60hz for almost 20 years was a sad thing considering that crts in the late 90s could do 100 or 120hz
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May 7, 2022 16:41
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graybeard 15" crt 1280x1024 crew checking in, 5:4 supremacy
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May 7, 2022 17:01
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i have a rackmount sarnsung 20" 5:4 LCD and it's pretty spectacular.
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May 7, 2022 17:07
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trinitron or gtfo
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May 7, 2022 17:10
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Beeftweeter posted:trinitron or gtfo yeah. best monitors i ever had were the pair of sony CPD-G400. 19", would do 1600x1200 @85Hz, crisp as hell, great colors. just perfect, until they started deteriorating
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May 7, 2022 19:04
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21:9 ultrawide is the ideal monitor aspect ratio because it more naturally approximates our eyes' field of view. also deus ex knew it was the way of the future back in 2000. i have one 34" 21:9 with a healthy pixel pitch (110 dpi) and if i got a second monitor i would probably just get another one of the same to mount above it, for a 7:6 near square field. that seems pretty cool.
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May 7, 2022 19:21
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The_Franz posted:lcds dragging everything back down to 60hz for almost 20 years was a sad thing considering that crts in the late 90s could do 100 or 120hz yeah, that crt i had could do high refresh rates for similar resolutions, just the eye strain became too much. great color quality, too that plus a hot key to toggle fsaa levels on my voodoo card made hl1 mods look amazing
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May 7, 2022 19:35
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Raluek posted:yeah. best monitors i ever had were the pair of sony CPD-G400. 19", would do 1600x1200 @85Hz, crisp as hell, great colors. just perfect, until they started deteriorating my favourite is the 27” iMac screen. shame there’s no target display mode tho
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May 7, 2022 19:50
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Raluek posted:yeah. best monitors i ever had were the pair of sony CPD-G400. 19", would do 1600x1200 @85Hz, crisp as hell, great colors. just perfect, until they started deteriorating mine was pretty old by the time i was using it and it would get wiggy above 75hz, but you could do 1280x1024 @ 75hz and it looked great.
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May 7, 2022 19:53
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Raluek posted:yeah. best monitors i ever had were the pair of sony CPD-G400. 19", would do 1600x1200 @85Hz, crisp as hell, great colors. just perfect, until they started deteriorating literally the only thing i didn't like about trinitrons were the aperture grill lines, those always bothered the poo poo out of me. but i think it was a reasonable tradeoff, especially as they got better at hiding them
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May 7, 2022 20:08
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Sagebrush posted:21:9 ultrawide is the ideal monitor aspect ratio incorrect  https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/
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May 7, 2022 22:25
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Beeftweeter posted:literally the only thing i didn't like about trinitrons were the aperture grill lines, those always bothered the poo poo out of me. but i think it was a reasonable tradeoff, especially as they got better at hiding them i never did get my hands on a diamondtron, but they're supposed to be better for this?? idk maybe someday Evis posted:my favourite is the 27” iMac screen. shame there’s no target display mode tho i have a 27" cinema display, but it doesn't work. seems ok other than that
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May 7, 2022 22:38
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i never could understand how people could look at a 60hz crt. even just having one in my peripheral vision made my eyes hurt
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May 7, 2022 23:03
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Raluek posted:i never did get my hands on a diamondtron, but they're supposed to be better for this?? idk maybe someday my last non-studio monitor CRT was a 17" diamondtron, and yes it was better and yes it loving owned
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May 7, 2022 23:08
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Plorkyeran posted:i never could understand how people could look at a 60hz crt. even just having one in my peripheral vision made my eyes hurt most people are really, really bad at noticing any sort of detail or subtlety
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May 7, 2022 23:09
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Plorkyeran posted:i never could understand how people could look at a 60hz crt. even just having one in my peripheral vision made my eyes hurt oh man im of a certain age that i remember installing slackware and b/c xfree86 or whatever was so open ended it would let you run 1024x768 at 50hz interlaced on a 14" crt, versus the usual 800x600 60hz non interlaced i'd try it, my eyes would bleed after 15 minutes, i'd go back a year later having forgotten about it, and try it again lol
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May 7, 2022 23:12
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Raluek posted:i never did get my hands on a diamondtron, but they're supposed to be better for this?? idk maybe someday my friend got the NEC whatevertron aperture grill and I remember his eyes sinking when we looked at that blue win2k desktop and saw two faint shadows. I think it was better but not unnoticeable. me, I remember getting used to my KVM softening /blurring all the graphics and then when I’d direct connect BAM it was razor sharp
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May 8, 2022 00:23
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Raluek posted:i have a 27" cinema display, but it doesn't work. seems ok other than that hmmm
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May 8, 2022 02:33
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Plorkyeran posted:i never could understand how people could look at a 60hz crt. even just having one in my peripheral vision made my eyes hurt 60hz, hot pink background with a centered picture of an infant kid, bonzi buddy or some kind of waving flag thing in the system tray, random icons and documents scattered all over the desktop it was every librarian's computer
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May 8, 2022 02:39
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Beeftweeter posted:most people are really, really bad at noticing any sort of detail or subtlety The_Franz posted:this is history literally clouding your vision, because even the best CRTs were nowhere near as sharp as a fixed pixel display
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May 8, 2022 14:38
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retina only. if you can see pixels your monitor is trash
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pixels are good actually
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May 8, 2022 15:42
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pixels run android. the hardware is good but the os is a pos
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Achmed Jones posted:pixels run android. the hardware is good but the os is a pos the os is good, the hardware dubious (loving qualcomm), googles stewardship of the os godawful.
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May 8, 2022 16:58
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I like being able to see the pixels when I look closely because that way I know I'm not missing anything.
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May 8, 2022 17:21
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Sagebrush posted:I like being able to see the pixels when I look closely because that way I know I'm not missing anything. this feels like it's on the same level as luddites who like mechanical hard drives because "i need to hear the computer working"
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May 8, 2022 17:22
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Sagebrush posted:21:9 ultrawide is the ideal monitor aspect ratio because it more naturally approximates our eyes' field of view. also deus ex knew it was the way of the future back in 2000. Ultrawides are ridiculous when you can get more use out of two 16:9 monitors side-by-side. Having an app be full-screen on one monitor while still having full use of the other, being able to flip between different spaces on each monitor. Also, if you need to share your screen on zoom there won't be the momentary pause as everyone in the conference has to adjust their zoom window to be able to make anything that you are sharing legible.
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May 8, 2022 17:44
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the os is good, the hardware dubious (loving qualcomm), googles stewardship of the os godawful. the take is too spicy!!! well the last part doesn't seem spicy but "the os is good"?!?!
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LanceHunter posted:Ultrawides are ridiculous when you can get more use out of two 16:9 monitors side-by-side. Having an app be full-screen on one monitor while still having full use of the other, being able to flip between different spaces on each monitor. Also, if you need to share your screen on zoom there won't be the momentary pause as everyone in the conference has to adjust their zoom window to be able to make anything that you are sharing legible. i just use a tiling window manager with mine. it's great and i love it. when i share my screen i tend to only share one application window and it's half the screen only at most vOv
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May 8, 2022 17:45
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never share your entire screen in a zoom meeting, lest you expose your side poo poo talking chat window to your management
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May 8, 2022 17:51
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Yeah lol. Never ever share your whole screen. Individual windows only, or at worst use the "area of screen" option.
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May 8, 2022 17:53
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protip: limit screen sharing to a different desktop so people aren't like "what's he hiding"
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May 8, 2022 17:57
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Beeftweeter posted:protip: limit screen sharing to a different desktop so people aren't like "what's he hiding" Hence why multiple monitors are the way to go. My upper-right monitor is the designated share monitor, and only ever holds content that I am okay with other people to seeing.
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eh, even without multiple monitors you can use ffmpeg + avfoundation to just use a virtual one
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