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Samovar posted:Every time I see that, I have to remind myself it's not Alistair Beckett King. I just see ABK and assume "rear end in a top hat Bobby Kotick".
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MechaCrash posted:Remember the "do you not have phones" thing? I'm not surprised the people at the top of this conglomerate of crap are that loving stupid. The kicker is that they’ve also more recently announced a PC port, but from what I’ve been reading, they’re really… (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) …Phoning it in.
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MechaCrash posted:Remember the "do you not have phones" thing? I'm not surprised the people at the top of this conglomerate of crap are that loving stupid. The funniest part of this is that even his dev team were like "If you go out there and announce this at Blizzcon you're going to get eaten alive."
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Regalingualius posted:The kicker is that they’ve also more recently announced a PC port, but from what I’ve been reading, they’re really… 
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I don't think anyone would have really cared about Immortal, either, but Blizzard kept hyping it up as the next Big Thing. It's well-trod ground by this point, but people would have lost their goddamned minds at a single 30 second trailer showing the number 4 fading in, and then Diablo's laugh or something. Fans might have even been positive about Immortal as a thing to play while waiting for 4. It was the world's easiest slam dunk. And they hosed even that up. Really shows how incompetent upper management at the Blizzard arm of ABK was (and still is, let's be honest) at the time.
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management at Activision Blizzard has not changed at all, they fired the people that harassed a woman so badly she killed herself
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Shadowlyger posted:The funniest part of this is that even his dev team were like "If you go out there and announce this at Blizzcon you're going to get eaten alive." Haha, loving seriously? I knew the entire thing was a shitshow, but I didn't know that even the people making the game knew who the audience was, and more importantly who the audience wasn't. I mean, I'm not going to say "you can't announce a phone game at Blizzcon," announcing phone game spinoffs as side-things during stuff went well enough for Fallout Vault and whatever the Elder Scrolls thing that turned out to suck were, but god drat, the key bits there are "spinoff" and "side thing," not treating it like it's the main attraction. I think it's just because the suits saw the tidal waves of money that mobile gaming were making, and said "let's announce the Big New Phone Game at our Big Fancy Convention About Us," and if anybody knew that the sources of that phone game money were absolutely not in the audience, they went ignored.
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I don't think it's much of a stretch to conclude that a lot of executives in gaming view people who play video games as a buncha dumb-as-dirt sheep who'll clap for anything they announce as long as it has the title of a popular thing on it, and are continually flabbergasted when that doesn't happen
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To be fair that’s mostly true, which makes them loving it up even funnier
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Bust Rodd posted:Trying to assign things like Gender & Sexuality to your moon-mutant gorilla with a laser gun seems, at best, Sisyphysean Winston and Hammond are clearly a couple.
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May 14, 2022 18:30
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I watched some preview gameplay of the upcoming Warcraft phone game and it actually looks pretty good for an idle mtx game. ABK is probably making more cash from their mobile games than WoW. Still dumb marketing though.
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MechaCrash posted:I think it's just because the suits saw the tidal waves of money that mobile gaming were making, and said "let's announce the Big New Phone Game at our Big Fancy Convention About Us," and if anybody knew that the sources of that phone game money were absolutely not in the audience, they went ignored.
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Shadowlyger posted:The funniest part of this is that even his dev team were like "If you go out there and announce this at Blizzcon you're going to get eaten alive." Do you have a source for this? Sounds hilarious and I wanna read more.
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ColdPie posted:Do you have a source for this? Sounds hilarious and I wanna read more. Unfortunately I do not, just a vague recollection of an employee response from around that time.
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Drakkel posted:I don't think it's much of a stretch to conclude that a lot of executives in gaming view people who play video games as a buncha dumb-as-dirt sheep who'll clap for anything they announce as long as it has the title of a popular thing on it, and are continually flabbergasted when that doesn't happen The c suite at ubisoft almost shut down AC odyssey because they said no one would want a game where the main character is a woman.
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Fruits of the sea posted:I watched some preview gameplay of the upcoming Warcraft phone game and it actually looks pretty good for an idle mtx game. ABK is probably making more cash from their mobile games than WoW. Still dumb marketing though. I know it’s petty, but one of the races that they mentioned in the announcement was “beasts”. Not like raptors or hyenas or lions, but sapient peoples (gnolls, quillboar, centaur) that have traditionally been “mongrel” races and punching bags for player characters in WoW. 
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pentyne posted:The c suite at ubisoft almost shut down AC odyssey because they said no one would want a game where the main character is a woman. Also why Aya wasn't playable in AC origins.
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Nobody would have gotten mad at Diablo immortal except it was literally their only announcement and they spent weeks hyping up that they had a biiiiiig announcement at blizzcon! Maybe it has to do with Diablo? Exciting! It was the nathan4u "hope you're hungry... for nothing" gif. If they had said before the event "this is going to be a light year but we have a new mobile game to talk about" I think people might have been positive on it
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Fruits of the sea posted:I watched some preview gameplay of the upcoming Warcraft phone game and it actually looks pretty good for an idle mtx game. ABK is probably making more cash from their mobile games than WoW. Still dumb marketing though.  is at the bottom of the company.
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30.5 Days posted:Nobody would have gotten mad at Diablo immortal except it was literally their only announcement and they spent weeks hyping up that they had a biiiiiig announcement at blizzcon! Maybe it has to do with Diablo? Exciting! I remember hearing that they were planning on announcing Diablo 4 until the last minute when they decided they didn't have enough to show off. It makes sense because I remember some Blizz posts a a day or two before the event going "hey guys, maybe temper your expectations just a little bit", but it was way too late.
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30.5 Days posted:Nobody would have gotten mad at Diablo immortal except it was literally their only announcement and they spent weeks hyping up that they had a biiiiiig announcement at blizzcon! Maybe it has to do with Diablo? Exciting! IIRC, they actually did have one of their CMs make a post on the Diablo forums with a vague “you might want to temper your expectations” warning right before that Blizzcon. Obviously that didn’t happen, though.
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Regalingualius posted:IIRC, they actually did have one of their CMs make a post on the Diablo forums with a vague “you might want to temper your expectations” warning right before that Blizzcon. Obviously that didn’t happen, though. Expectations were tempered generally, it's just that "tempered" in 2018 was "oh poo poo maybe they're remastering Diablo 2", since the SC remaster was the only one out at the time and (as it turns out) was the only flawless no-fault remaster they ever ended up doing whoops
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30.5 Days posted:Nobody would have gotten mad at Diablo immortal except it was literally their only announcement and they spent weeks hyping up that they had a biiiiiig announcement at blizzcon! Maybe it has to do with Diablo? Exciting! when Bethesda showed Fallout Shelter, they did it right after announcing Fallout 4 and basically saying "yeah you can play this dumb mobile spinoff while waiting for the new fallout game". that was the right way to do it I think
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There was already very little to show at that Blizzcon so everyone figured the Diablo announcement was going to be huge and therefore would have to be D4. Besides, it had been a while and obviously Blizzard had been working on stuff during the comparitive content drought, right? Like, SC2, D3, HotS and Overwatch and such weren't being worked on much at all, so they must have been doing a ton of work in the background on a huge game, right? Right guys? Anyway, turns out Blizzard literally wasn't working on anything and was too busy molesting interns or something.
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Bentai posted:IIRC, the King arm of ABK does provided a higher revenue stream than Blizzard. Candy crush alone made over a billion dollars in 2021, not counting their other games. The highest mobile game easily out revenues the biggest non mobile.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Expectations were tempered generally, it's just that "tempered" in 2018 was "oh poo poo maybe they're remastering Diablo 2", since the SC remaster was the only one out at the time and (as it turns out) was the only flawless no-fault remaster they ever ended up doing The Diablo 2 remaster turned out pretty well, certainly nothing like the WC3 disaster
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Disargeria posted:There was already very little to show at that Blizzcon so everyone figured the Diablo announcement was going to be huge and therefore would have to be D4. Besides, it had been a while and obviously Blizzard had been working on stuff during the comparitive content drought, right? Like, SC2, D3, HotS and Overwatch and such weren't being worked on much at all, so they must have been doing a ton of work in the background on a huge game, right? Right guys? That was the golden age of 'what are they even doing with their $1.4 billion operating budget.' And yeah it's hard to overstate that, at that point in time, blizzard still had like 5 different active IPs that they could've been doing something with and blizzard going all in on making lovely mobile games wasn't even on anyone's radar really.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:That was the golden age of 'what are they even doing with their $1.4 billion operating budget' Renting the Cosby Room apparently
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https://twitter.com/_mlktea/status/1525508828627841024 That's really the only thing I can assume, the c-suite needs shiny graphs and numbers because they're infested with brainworms.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Of course they have eyes how else could they read the chart Someone reads the numbers to them in a dry monotone
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Tae posted:Candy crush alone made over a billion dollars in 2021, not counting their other games. The highest mobile game easily out revenues the biggest non mobile. Call of Duty makes as much money as the entire King stable, if not more. Warzone is unfathomably profitable. King does smash Blizzard's numbers, but Blizzard still brings in a fair chunk.
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Bentai posted:https://twitter.com/_mlktea/status/1525508828627841024 tbqh the teams themselves are probably not all too diverse.
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Studio posted:tbqh the teams themselves are probably not all too diverse. If the teams aren't diverse, then why does activision blizzard have such a diverse list of plaintiffs?
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Kanos posted:Call of Duty makes as much money as the entire King stable, if not more. Warzone is unfathomably profitable. like blizzard doesnt even need to make king money to still be of extremely high value. make really good IPs, maintain really strong old ones, and use those IPs for secondary sources of monetization through fandom and as goodwill for the parent company to put people into other parts of the ecosystem. but lol, lmao. shareholders dont care.
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anime was right posted:maintain really strong old ones Still mindboggling how they made a literal cultural phenomenon with Overwatch in 2016 and had merch out the wazoo, but trickled out a dozen short stories/comics/cinematics and then puttered out into nothing. What did they do with all that time and money??
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Disargeria posted:What did they do with all that time and money?? Diablo for mobile, lmfao
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muscles like this! posted:I assume they spent it all setting it up as an esport. I believe it's been literally said they pivoted from story and whatnot to esports
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