RokosCockatrice posted:serious questionn do people have an obligation or a responsibility to contribute to society? I thought 'obviously, like, at least a little bit' but no joke I got shouted down for 3 solid days by several people who thought the answer was no no no no how dare you i think "working under capitalism" should not be conflated with "contributing to society" do telemarketers make the world a better place?
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What about people who work as lobbyists for tax preparers? Are they contributing to society?
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my work definitely doesn't contribute to society, but I do a little in my free time
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bob dobbs is dead posted:its a fuckoff huge paycut, is the rub Sure but it's tangibly worth it Like I would be on a salary of 40k/yr but im on 28k (and boss is juggling numbers to see about a pay rise for everyone as well), and the tangible benefit is I have way more time to relax, and I get a 3 day weekend every week, and I still get a month of holiday a year. I'd rather that than the extra 10k, most of which would put me in a higher tax bracket. I'm not earning massively more per month than I was on 15k/yr anyway because we have a functional tax system here. I don't have to give a poo poo about healthcare and renting costs here are much, much cheaper. The pound is also worth more than the dollar. Everything accounted for, I likely have higher spending power and much much more free time to use it than someone doing the exact same job in the US alexandriao fucked around with this message at 21:41 on May 23, 2022 |
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Also the one project im working on is literally "Let's make therapy access easier for queer people" and I get to build that from scratch and be responsible for it. Compare to my previous gig of being 1 person out of like a hundred, all working to keep microservices floating to sell people on some kind of AWS bullshit alexandriao fucked around with this message at 21:38 on May 23, 2022 |
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Jonny 290 posted:i dont suppose there's any cogent answer to the question of what you want out of this subforum or 'gimmick', eh It is indeed a meta-gimmick - I act this way because it reflects a deeper truth, and I view it as a stepping stone between where I am and where I want to be. I want to be who I am because that's who I want to be, not because I think it will win the approval of others. And that requires practice. So yes, not a gimmick at all. Out of this subforum? Maybe I'll find people going through the same thing, ones who appreciate my company.
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my employer definitely has a net negative impact on society
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alexandriao posted:
free time yes spending power lol https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/San-Francisco-Bay-Area/ nonprofits pay like 60% of that, ime, w exception of mozilla and wikipedia and like places that pay more at parity (compare to khan academy, which is a nonprofit dealio - https://www.levels.fyi/company/Khan-Academy/salaries/Software-Engineer/) bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 21:56 on May 23, 2022 |
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I went into computers because it paid well and I hated bio and wanted to get as independent as possible that’s it, that’s the only reason
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RokosCockatrice posted:serious questionn do people have an obligation or a responsibility to contribute to society? I thought 'obviously, like, at least a little bit' but no joke I got shouted down for 3 solid days by several people who thought the answer was no no no no how dare you unfortunately many millions of people have terminal brainworms where it's presumed that it all just means "have a job under capitalism"
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PokeJoe posted:i think "working under capitalism" should not be conflated with "contributing to society" i agree, and this is why capitalism is so opposed to a good society
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:i agree, and this is why capitalism is so opposed to a good society
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PokeJoe posted:too bad those jobs don't exist and if they do you can't go to the dr lol yeah also in the US a lot of positions at non profits and stuff that would be paid in the UK are volunteer and best case they give you a slip for tax write off purposes
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i think its great that every discussion here ends with "well thats just capitalism for ya" and everyone kinda nods and kicks the dirt for a minute and then we just go back to whatever we were doin
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PokeJoe posted:i think "working under capitalism" should not be conflated with "contributing to society" ding ding ding
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hell shitposting in these here forums contributes more to society than lots of jobs
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think of how much no-bullshit good advice we legitimately share with each other here. it's helped a lot of people
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PokeJoe posted:think of how much no-bullshit good advice we legitimately share with each other here. it's helped a lot of people shout out to the og printer thread
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rotor posted:i think its great that every discussion here ends with "well thats just capitalism for ya" and everyone kinda nods and kicks the dirt for a minute and then we just go back to whatever we were doin
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rotor posted:i think its great that every discussion here ends with "well thats just capitalism for ya" and everyone kinda nods and kicks the dirt for a minute and then we just go back to whatever we were doin there isn't much of a tangible solution that we could commit to outside of stealing from the office or doing minimal work i just touch fish for a living and complain about it
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rotor posted:i think its great that every discussion here ends with "well thats just capitalism for ya" and everyone kinda nods and kicks the dirt for a minute and then we just go back to whatever we were doin i mean, we dont have any answers beyond 'tear down capitalism' which isnt something i think we can do any more. individuals can go be hairy woods man types, sure, but we aren't in any position to grab a hundred babies each from the burning apartment building
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heck, i'm complaining to my cousin on line right now! might complain to another family member on wechat later
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dioxazine posted:heck, i'm complaining to my cousin on line right now! might complain to another family member on wechat later good contribution comrade, society thanks you
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dioxazine posted:i just touch fish for a living a second fishtoucher ???
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dioxazine posted:there isn't much of a tangible solution that we could commit to outside of stealing from the office or doing minimal work idk i feel like there's probably some harm reduction we could work on while we wait for the glorious workers revolution
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graph posted:a second fishtoucher ??? right?!? wtf
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metaphysical fish touching
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PokeJoe posted:metaphysical fish touching ascension, as it were
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graph posted:a second fishtoucher ??? i wonder if they attended the same school
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at least we know there are two yosposters who are really averse to dropping the bass
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~ fin ~
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fishpics plz
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oh god dammit jonny
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loving hell, today took a lot out of me. Got a bunch done, but now I'm ready to just chill for a while. This trip can't get here soon enough.
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Jonny 290 posted:~ fin ~
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wait re the thread title: have we posted this yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaAF_GAc3Mk
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i'm more of a fan of vectron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTrzUuWlHI
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THE FINNISH-AMERICAN LABOR MOVEMENT— AN HISTORICAL OUTLINE http://www.finnlabor.net/US-FinnHistory.htm
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sorry, i just wanted to post that somewhere but did not want to navigate c-spam good website
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https://i.imgur.com/igS6y7g.mp4
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