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I mean I figured it must've been polio or possibly measles/mumps/rubella. Actually surprised none of them got it but sometimes it be that way. At least Mayim feels a bit more comfortable as host, or maybe my standards are just so incredibly low.
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May 24, 2022 03:14
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I'd heard it described recently as long-polio, as a comparison to COVID, so it came to mind right away. The problem for me, as always, is that I can't remember words off the top of my head, so I turned to my wife and asked what FDR had. I'd be poo poo on jeopardy.
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May 24, 2022 03:57
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ninjahedgehog posted:I pieced it together at the last second by trying to think of diseases that old people may have had in their youth, but are now eradicated. Measles was a good guess though Yeah I got it right away but it was totally an educated guess not any actual knowledge which is pretty much my MO with Jeopardy.
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May 24, 2022 06:40
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Albino Squirrel posted:My greatest fear is getting locked out of a category that I should know thanks to my career. I think the questions in the jargony categories sometimes have to twist themselves into knots to lead laypeople to the correct responses in a way that makes them more challenging to professionals. The information's correct, but it's worded in a way that no sane person in that field would ever think of putting it.
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May 24, 2022 13:46
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Another interesting coincidence: a question about Vangelis, days after he died. RIP.
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May 24, 2022 15:53
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Harry Privates posted:Since you’re posting do you mind explaining how you train for this? Finally remembering this..... There's no easy list of things to know, but if you take data you can guide your preparations (both my wife and I are scientists....this is the way). I use an app to track my performance while playing along each day which produces a Coryat Score (since I ignore DD wagering, I just practice coming up with the correct wager if I were the player who got it with that score situation). I also specifically track correct, incorrect, and no responses in each category. Then you can see trends in which categories are strong vs struggling over time; not specific categories, more general overarching groups of categories (geography, US history, world history, politics, science, art, sports, etc.). Example: This showed me that my performance in bible-centric categories was abysmal. I reread the entire bible and studied some Cliff's Notes equivalents and my performance dramatically increased over the course of two months. I can also see my performance in science categories is so high that I can completely ignore trying to prep (physics and astronomy I'm still X-0-0). The other half of this is a bit more related to approaching the game strategically. It's a marathon, not a sprint. The key isn't just knowing the answers, it's recalling them quickly, but also not burning yourself out a few categories (or rounds or games) in if you get going on a streak. It takes a certain effort, which can be indirectly measured by tracking latency time between the clue being revealed and coming up with the response. This also helps with training to read the clue and ignore the host reading it to gain a bit more time. I can improve this by simply knowing more things, but there are diminishing returns. More useful: I can strategically allocate where I invest that energy. I can analyze past clues to determine the most common topics and make sure those I have down pat: Know the presidents in order (and the years of their holding office), world countries and capitals, British monarchs and PMs, bodies of water, etc. The idea is if these are basically automatic, you conserve your mental energy that can then be reserved for the more niche categories that make you think harder. I use RemNote to create documents compiling these things which lets me compile flashcard decks. Sporcle is also really helpful for drilling on some of these topics, especially the geography ones. Through all of that, just take data constantly. Tracking your performance lets you see progress and adjust your focus as you grow. You need to know what needs to be shored up, but you also need to know when to say it's good enough so you can move on to the next thing. You'll see diminishing returns and your performance metric flattens out. These metrics are things like accuracy (% correct) and also speed (# correct per fixed time interval). There's no absolute number to aim for, it's more just looking for that curve flattening to see that any additional gains wouldn't be worth the additional effort. There are some books that are pretty much mandatory reading, and others that are helpful to have read. Right now I'm in the middle of rereading all of Shakespeare this year and my second time through Hirsch's Dictionary of Cultural Literacy (one of those mandatory ones). I read a lot, but even I can't get through everything, so I read a lot of synopses and Cliff's Notes style things to make sure I know my literature. The last component is the buzzer. I haven't quite gotten to the point of building my own buzzer system like others have in the past, but I hone my reaction time on various video games that require fast reflexes (seems to work well enough, I was pretty dominant on the buzzer at the practice game at my audition anyway, so I don't really work on this too actively). In the end there's no easy way to write a catch-all study guide or anything. Aside from the most frequent categories and responses guiding things that should be automatic, the rest is a matter of tracking what you need to work on and continuing to track over time to see that your approach to studying is working.
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May 24, 2022 22:13
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Harry Privates posted:Since you’re posting do you mind explaining how you train for this? Some chess grand masters do endurance training as part of prep for tournaments and I can't help but wonder, given the long shooting days and need for quick recall and button action, if that is part of J! prep too.
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May 25, 2022 00:54
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I use an app to track my performance while playing along each day which produces a Coryat Score What app?
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May 25, 2022 01:30
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Dienes posted:Some chess grand masters do endurance training as part of prep for tournaments and I can't help but wonder, given the long shooting days and need for quick recall and button action, if that is part of J! prep too. Yes, I did this. In the month leading up to it I was doing seven games in a row a day, this was back when there was that one DailyMotion account that had every episode from the previous year up.
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May 25, 2022 02:11
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HookShot posted:Yes, I did this. In the month leading up to it I was doing seven games in a row a day, this was back when there was that one DailyMotion account that had every episode from the previous year up. No I mean physically, they are marathon running and triathalon swimming because they burn like 6000 calories a day playing chess.
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May 25, 2022 02:28
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Dienes posted:No I mean physically, they are marathon running and triathalon swimming because they burn like 6000 calories a day playing chess. Oh, I see. No, I didn't do that, but I can also confidently say I did not burn 6000 calories on my Jeoparday.
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May 25, 2022 02:34
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HookShot posted:Oh, I see. No, I didn't do that, but I can also confidently say I did not burn 6000 calories on my Jeoparday. In a serious note you’re also pretty in shape though , so it’s kind of a you were already there ?
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May 25, 2022 13:59
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So are we now in the age of the Super Champion or something?
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May 25, 2022 15:53
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Ban steroids from professional Jeopardy imo
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May 25, 2022 17:43
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Change the buzzers so that if you’re wrong you get a painful electric shock.
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May 25, 2022 17:51
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Change the buzzers so that if you’re wrong Mayim gets painful electric shock.
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May 25, 2022 17:57
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I would just like to say that Ryan is awesome. That is all.
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May 25, 2022 19:46
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Orzo posted:I would just like to say that Ryan is awesome. That is all. He sounds very sad every time he has to pick a clue.
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Duckman2008 posted:In a serious note you’re also pretty in shape though , so it’s kind of a you were already there ? This actually is true and I got a weird look from a coach who walked in on me working out normally the week before I flew out while listening to a podcast on roman history through my speakers in the middle of a set of squats.
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May 25, 2022 21:05
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HookShot posted:This actually is true and I got a weird look from a coach who walked in on me working out normally the week before I flew out while listening to a podcast on roman history through my speakers in the middle of a set of squats. Mike Duncan or Patrick Wyman? Because Wyman is also a big muscly buff guy, I believe
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May 25, 2022 22:30
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Mike Duncan or Patrick Wyman? Because Wyman is also a big muscly buff guy, I believe No, I used to ski race competitively and we had a dedicated gym in our club where I used to train. It was one of my racing coaches.
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May 26, 2022 05:52
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I didn't know James Bond ate so much.
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HookShot posted:No, I used to ski race competitively and we had a dedicated gym in our club where I used to train. It was one of my racing coaches. Oh I was asking if it was one of those two guys' Roman history podcasts, lol
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Cognac McCarthy posted:Oh I was asking if it was one of those two guys' Roman history podcasts, lol OMFG I'm sorry, yesterday was a day and apparently I don't have a brain anymore. Yes, it was Mike Duncan's. I love it so much.
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Guess I'll add that to my queue. Roman history is coming up in my list of things to shore up.
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HookShot posted:OMFG I'm sorry, yesterday was a day and apparently I don't have a brain anymore. I was hoping for the plot twist that your racing coach also had a side hustle of doing podcasts on Roman history.
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I've been studying up on American history via reading the founding documents, and going through president-by-president on Wikipedia. This is not stuff you learn in Canadian schools, but it's a hefty part of Jeopardy. Oh my GOD you guys did you know how hosed up the founders were?!? Also I think maybe Lincoln gets so much credit because he was the only half-decent human being who was president between JQ Adams and, like, McKinley.
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May 26, 2022 16:12
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Albino Squirrel posted:I've been studying up on American history via reading the founding documents, and going through president-by-president on Wikipedia. This is not stuff you learn in Canadian schools, but it's a hefty part of Jeopardy. I was taught going to school in America that the founding fathers were perfect and the civil war was about states rights. Also, you never make it past the Spanish American war, mayyyyybe up to World War I.
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Albino Squirrel posted:I've been studying up on American history via reading the founding documents, and going through president-by-president on Wikipedia. This is not stuff you learn in Canadian schools, but it's a hefty part of Jeopardy. People in this thread: Probably. Americans in general: Absolutely not, they're basically presented as flawless demigods. It's the entire reason why we can't touch the 2nd amendment, anything they wrote is sacrosanct (never mind that they also codified slavery into the Constitution originally...).
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Duckman2008 posted:I was taught going to school in America that the founding fathers were perfect and the civil war was about states rights. Also, you never make it past the Spanish American war, mayyyyybe up to World War I. In college, I took a US History 1865-Present course and we made it all the way up to the Gilded Age. The stuff we did manage to cover in a semester was presented better, but the 20th century remains largely a mystery.
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i went to a toronto public school that had an american history class in grade 11 and it was honestly pretty comprehensive. we went from pre colonial native history to the modern era, though after vietnam it basically tapered off into nothingness due to time, except for our big final essays where we all got randomly assigned something "major" about the us between 60 and 06. major is in scare quotes because i got the vietnam war whereas my friend got reagans star wars program and one person got iran contra while another got the 1988 election lmao
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Albino Squirrel posted:I've been studying up on American history via reading the founding documents, and going through president-by-president on Wikipedia. This is not stuff you learn in Canadian schools, but it's a hefty part of Jeopardy. I did this entirely in the three weeks before my air date using Khan Academy, and if you're interested in it I found that course (it's free) VERY helpful. It really spells out the trivia-important details while also going over the overarching societally important reasons for specific things happening that really helped cement it in my memory. Like sure, Wikipedia through the Presidents will tell you what the Teapot Dome Scandal was, but the course will give you a better understanding of the Gilded Age as a whole and how unrelenting capitalism and corruption led to it. I highly recommend it. Also yeah mainlining the entirety of American history in three weeks was SUPER depressing because oh boy there are not a lot of bright spots in there. There's a lot of "almost... almost... almost did something good... and then at the last second swerved and did the opposite"
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i've just decided i'm never going to be remotely good at history. i gotta play Civilization or Hearts of Iron or some poo poo
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It seems weird over how recent history got the short end of the stick based on your experiences. My education on history tended go over everything to roughly the end of the textbook so in my case, it ended around the 80s to Gulf War I. My state exams might've had something to do with it though.
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Spokes posted:i've just decided i'm never going to be remotely good at history. i gotta play Civilization or Hearts of Iron or some poo poo I don't know how many clues I've gotten right because the answer was a wonder in Civilization V, but it's more than a few!
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Spokes posted:i've just decided i'm never going to be remotely good at history. i gotta play Civilization or Hearts of Iron or some poo poo This is me but with movies and TV. There are just too many of them.
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Island Nation posted:It seems weird over how recent history got the short end of the stick based on your experiences. My education on history tended go over everything to roughly the end of the textbook so in my case, it ended around the 80s to Gulf War I. My state exams might've had something to do with it though. Ours went to the collapse of the Soviet Union, only our textbooks were published in 1990, so they literally went up to what was then "present day" and the teacher had to be like "yeah and then the following year a few things happened that aren't in your books because that was the future then".
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