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Bondematt posted:You can try it, but typically no. A dedicated router gives a much better experience. Fair enough. Hopefully my router will be up to it. It's got 5Ghz band that I've got basically to myself (only 2 neighbours and they don't use it), but it's not WiFi 6 and not in the same room, although it is directly below me through the floor and on top of a bookcase. Fingers crossed.
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chippy posted:Fair enough. Hopefully my router will be up to it. It's got 5Ghz band that I've got basically to myself (only 2 neighbours and they don't use it), but it's not WiFi 6 and not in the same room, although it is directly below me through the floor and on top of a bookcase. Fingers crossed. I'm using this sort of setup except the router is above me & it works fine.
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blunt posted:Probably October 2023 (at Meta connect). 2022 meta connect is supposed to be an update on how slowly that project is coming along, or are they actually going to be announcing it as a commercial project? Not trying to be snarky, honestly curious. I haven't heard anything about a desktop VR headset since the very warmed-over Rift 2 was released (and then cancelled?) Quest 3 sounds interesting but have zero interest in a device that's linked to my facebook goings on, so Cabria looks cool even if I have to pay $CommercialDeveloper prices for the privilege
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Hadlock posted:2022 meta connect is supposed to be an update on how slowly that project is coming along, or are they actually going to be announcing it as a commercial project? Not trying to be snarky, honestly curious. I haven't heard anything about a desktop VR headset since the very warmed-over Rift 2 was released (and then cancelled?) I'm just going by Road To VR which is quoting The Information (paywalled). I wouldn't hold out for an updated Rift-S - Meta are no longer making desktop-only VR headsets
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Oh yeah if Cambria has some kind of wireless Netflix functionality, that'll be cool I guess I was under the impression that Cambria will be a developer first/enterprise grade headset not designed to his a specific $299 consumer price point, so they can get it out and let developers start hacking on next gen hardware now, without having to wait for Facebook to figure out how to cut $1500 from the price for consumers ($1999 seems to be the gentlemen's agreement on Enterprise VR pricing?)
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Trainee PornStar posted:I'm using this sort of setup except the router is above me & it works fine. I'll find out tomorrow when Alyx has finished downloading. drat my stupid rural internet connection.
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To add to the (old) treadmill chat, I think it's weird how they are constantly portrayed as a good fit for competitive shooter games, but they offer no real advantage at all in them. At least gun stocks for controllers offer better control and aim. Who's going to strap themselves into an expensive slippery bowl if it means more (and slower) work to get at best the same results in a competitive game?
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The Eyes Have It posted:To add to the (old) treadmill chat, I think it's weird how they are constantly portrayed as a good fit for competitive shooter games, but they offer no real advantage at all in them. At least gun stocks for controllers offer better control and aim. Who's going to strap themselves into an expensive slippery bowl if it means more (and slower) work to get at best the same results in a competitive game? This was one of the absolute stupidest logic choices by the main villain in ready player one. Why would you want to feel the pain of impact in your vr game with with a haptics suit? All interactions should just rub ur dick a bit faster
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After a bit of a dry spell in the last weeks, we are getting some new games: World of Mechs, only $20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVKQOTd5SNY The Last Clockwinder, to be released on June 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68eSVNCfwoI This puzzler looks very nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gW7N4BcaKQ Cyberpunk FPS game for PC VR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viTGUnLEjSg Someone tries to go against ETT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3jfA4-zW8s Eolia is a sequel to Ionia, that will launch for Q2. Given Ionia was on pc, maybe later will release on pc too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1OJ9et-N0E In other news, Outlier is cancelled. Maybe focus on one or two games, instead of trying to make 4 at the same time? https://www.roadtovr.com/vr-roguelike-outlier-cancelled-due-overestimated-demand/
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Turin Turambar posted:In other news, Outlier is cancelled. Maybe focus on one or two games, instead of trying to make 4 at the same time? Ha, I got "overestimated" and "underestimated" mixed up again, and was just about to post "what the gently caress kind of problem is 'too many people want to play our game' this is the funniest thing ever".
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Just ordered a 3070 today, now that they aren't like 2 grand a pop. Can't wait to play VR in something above low settings 
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I watched a movie for two hours wearing a quest with counterweight and DAS, ugh. I can see now the not-always-obvious value of the Index and its comfort-centric design. Don't get old, it sucks hard
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Finally thinking about getting one and it looks like the Quest 2 is what I would get. Want the Steam one but money denies that. How well does the Quest 2 integrate with Steam? Also seems I should get the Elite Strap with battery for playtime and comfort/balance? OgNar fucked around with this message at 09:32 on May 24, 2022 |
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OgNar posted:Finally thinking about getting one and it looks like the Quest 2 is what I would get. The elite strap is bad because it breaks really easily, it has some serious design flaws. SteamVR games work pretty much the way they would on any other headset, I don't think it's much of a difference for most people. Technically there is some image compression that goes on playing PCVR on a Quest, but it's not something I've ever heard people seriously complain about. You could go with the Vive DAS + an adapter for basically the coolest but nerdiest mod that gets you actually good speakers. Or one of a bunch of other good third party straps, the kiwi design ones are good but there are others that are recommended too. I have a 64gb Quest 2 and I haven't come close to running out of space, so unless you really wanna play medal of honor quest native it probably doesn't matter too much.
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BrainDance posted:The elite strap is bad because it breaks really easily, it has some serious design flaws. This thing? https://www.amazon.com/HTC-Vive-Deluxe-Audio-Strap-pc/dp/B06Y2GDXMC What do you do for more battery time though, or just deal with it?
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OgNar posted:This thing? I use a USB3 cable (with the ridiculous "fiber wired through my ceiling so it works several rooms away" setup I wrote about earlier) because I was never completely satisfied with Air Link, so my Quest stays charged that way. But, I did velcro a battery with a cheap battery holder made for another strap to it without any trouble when I was trying out Air Link. I imagine there are even better solutions out there for the DAS. If you go with the DAS, make sure you get an adapter too like this https://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapter-Deluxe-Compatible-FrankenQuest-PC/dp/B093BQ688H Going with another third party strap like one of the Kiwi design ones with a battery pack specifically designed for it is definitely easier though. I love my DAS, but it's probably not for everyone just because it can require some tinkering.
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That all sounds good, I had already added the adaptor since it was recommended as a bundle with the DAS and the 128. According to Amazon I can have it all in hand by tomorrow. Thanks Anything I might wish I had bought later? Cables or whatever. Link cable? jfc $80 for a cable Oh, found a $9 one, i'll snag that OgNar fucked around with this message at 10:08 on May 24, 2022 |
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There's this option for a headstrap and battery as well: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09KNF4Q9G/ Although right now I just use a regular battery pack and the Kiwi battery strap, then attach it to my belt because the weight is a bit too much for me when it's all on my head. Kiwi also do a really good set of controller straps, highly recommended.
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Everything Kiwi makes is pretty good. I would suggest just going through their catalog and just kind of making a mental note of the stuff they have, and then when you get your Quest, think about the problems you have with it and if they can be solved by one of these products. I also recommend their, I guess its called a "facial interface" but that seems silly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B099WN4MKW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1 My problems were mainly comfort for longer sessions, so i got their Elite strap, the controller strap (Smash Drums can get very vigorous) and the facial interface.
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Thanks, looks like i'll be getting it tomorrow, so will just browse poo poo throughout the day. Looks like I cant create an account until I have it in hand though.
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The rear "head cup" of the DAS and Quest Elite straps both feel super wide on the apparently skinny(?) back of my head. Bizarrely the OG quest strap I think was a real sweet spot in exactly (and only) two ways:
In all other ways I prefer the Index, Quest Elite strap, or DAS (except for the speakers, on account of my hearing aids.)
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boloney posted:I have the Kiwi head and controller straps and I'm very happy with both Same here. Though, if we aren't getting proper glasses, I'd like everyone to move away from the top strap. Cup my giant noggin like a clamshell, plz.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Everything Kiwi makes is pretty good. I would suggest just going through their catalog and just kind of making a mental note of the stuff they have, and then when you get your Quest, think about the problems you have with it and if they can be solved by one of these products. I also recommend their, I guess its called a "facial interface" but that seems silly: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B099WN4MKW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&th=1 Most everything. IMO VRcover makes a nicer interface. The index rear plether cover thing for the index is over priced af. its 27 dollars for a single that ships in a ziplock bag. The pads for the interface on the kiwi stuff IMO are too thin, they just straight up hurt my face after 10 min. So if you're a big head, skip it imo. Controller weight things are decent. The grip things are decent. The straps are good. Just not a fan of the interface and cover stuff they make. Its overpriced and not nearly as quality as VRcover and if im going to buy a "knock off" brand thing ill do it cheaper and get the same poo poo tbh. I have heaps of kiwi stuff. They regularly send me things to review and while im generally "happy" and can say "sure its worth the money", theres absolutely better products out there a lot of the time.
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I finally got around to playing Into The Radius again after their patch a month or so ago that fixed up control binding to actually use the Steam bindings properly. I can finally get it to use the Index's force sensor, and not the capacitive sensor, and it works great! They've also brought back a firing range/kill house section, which is great.
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Hello, hopping into the thread from 700 posts back to say GRIP is loving cool in VR and well worth the $4.49 it costs right now. e: and if you get dizzy easily in VR, it also works without VR.
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I got Grip in a bundle awhile back. Havent played a ton of it, but it is pretty fun. I was never a fan of realistic controlled racing, PoD was always my favorite from way back. Looks so ugly now though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxlMvtKDdVo&t=1386s
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OgNar posted:I got Grip in a bundle awhile back. Such a great game. I remember how amazing (we thought) it looked if you have a 3DFX card.
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Is the kiwi usb3 to c cable any good? I’m using an anker right now but it’s only 10 feet and I want a longer one. Also, the quest 2 is comfortable enough but as soon as I put it on it presses down on my nose in a way where it makes me feel sort of stuffy, like it’s pinching it. I can’t adjust it so it doesn’t do that. And half life alyx likes to hard crash my pc. Complete black screen.
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So if anyone's interested, using AirLink on Windows 11 with a 3080, I was seeing some 'juddering' (in Alyx) but only for objects close to you, stuff further away didn't seem to be affected. It didn't really make things unplayable but it was a little jarring and annoying. I saw a couple of news article saying that it was a Windows 11 problem and there there was a fix currently in the Public Test Channel for the Oculus software. I've switched to that and it does seem to have improved it. It's still there, but now it's an occasional judder rather than a constant, regular one. I know most people mostly seemed to respond saying they hadn't had any issues with Windows 11 when I asked, but if anyone is having issues, seems like that is worth trying. Any other performance tuning tips would be welcomed. By the way, has anyone tried using 90Hz for SteamVR stuff over AirLink? I'm going to try if myself but was surprised to see the Oculus software warning that it's not recommended. chippy fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 25, 2022 |
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Overbite posted:Is the kiwi usb3 to c cable any good? I’m using an anker right now but it’s only 10 feet and I want a longer one. I bought this and it works well https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B098C9BMSN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
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Overbite posted:Also, the quest 2 is comfortable enough but as soon as I put it on it presses down on my nose in a way where it makes me feel sort of stuffy, like it’s pinching it. I can’t adjust it so it doesn’t do that. I think this is just a weight distribution thing and why some people strap a battery pack to the back of their headstrap as a counterweight.
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chippy posted:So if anyone's interested, using AirLink on Windows 11 with a 3080, I was seeing some 'juddering' (in Alyx) but only for objects close to you, stuff further away didn't seem to be affected. It didn't really make things unplayable but it was a little jarring and annoying. I saw a couple of news article saying that it was a Windows 11 problem and there there was a fix currently in the Public Test Channel for the Oculus software. I've switched to that and it does seem to have improved it. It's still there, but now it's an occasional judder rather than a constant, regular one. I must of missed your question because I had nothing but issues with oculus and win11. Its why my main VR rig is on 10 again. With that said, My index and steamvr based headsets were fine. It was just my oculus that didn't like win11
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I switched my quest 2 to 90 fps for steam VR, but I couldn't hit it all the time in vrchat, so it would flip between 90 and 45. Now that I have that new amd 5800x3d I can hit 90 more consistently (I have a 3080 as well) It may be less jarring to pick a target you can hit all the time because if you can't it will half it and time warp it or whatever. E: my buddy who doesn't even have VR as far as I know expressed an interest in VR casino games. Is poker stars vr and social club vr: casino nights the good ones? Quaint Quail Quilt fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 25, 2022 |
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i was slightly worried about full body tracking in a post-base station world, but apparently this is getting fixed too now lol https://www.crowdsupply.com/slimevr/slimevr-full-body-tracker
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I bought my first vr headset, it's in the mail now. I ordered the Pico Neo 3 Link. It doesn't have access to Quest exclusives and makes you login to China. From what I've been able to tell it's built in the same factory, has slightly improved FOV and tracking, a nicer head strap, and a 5m DisplayPort cable. Which means it doesn't have to compress the picture when playing in PCVR mode. I was going to wait to see what's coming out but I started to get the feeling whatever Meta is cooking is going to bum me out. All of the upcoming headsets at least this year still use the same processor, so there'll be compromises. I think what got the sale was the discount on Pico's next headset. Probably a duplicate of Meta's upcoming headset if I were to guess. So if I was waiting for that anyway then... I mean, that's like a 350 discount. That means I can play with this thing for a year for like 150, and I can sell it too. I'm all in on the Pico ecosystem. All the videos about it say it's as good. Pretty excited to watch 3d movies with it, screw around with the technology, and I really want to play old light gun games like time crisis. Nolgthorn fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 25, 2022 |
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njsykora posted:I think this is just a weight distribution thing and why some people strap a battery pack to the back of their headstrap as a counterweight. It’s not just that, though it helps. Pull the strap that goes over the top of your head tighter, and then when it feels right, just a touch tighter still and adhere it to the Velcro. It should slip slightly back forward so it stays comfortable. Most of the weight should rest on the strap, not in trying to vise your head in between the front and back.
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