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Mr Scumbag posted:Heh, so I've bought and refunded two different vampire games in two days now. Yeah, I had a similar situation but even further along when they basically give you a conversation boss fight without warning and you can go into it with 0 willpower (with no clear explanation on what recovers willpower other than "winning" skill rolls) and yeah, it was literally impossible to win. SO I hit Restart thinking like any other game in the last 20 loving years it would restart to the last checkpoint but nooooooope, reset the hole game and like 2.5 hours of playing. gently caress that.
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Making the player hold a button to skip and then going "actually you're not allowed to skip this" is an incredible power move.
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Maximum Planck posted:It's pronounced "Timothy" Hexenritter posted:Lol I said it "Tss-IM-iss-ay" and I honestly prefer the way that it sounds Tzim-iss-se or Timothy.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Tzim-iss-se Or Timotei, like the shampoo
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V Rising let's you move full storage crates without emptying them first. SSSSS+++ game, flawless, no notes.
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My only negative experience in V Rising was when I thought I was a big brained genius by imprisoning a werewolf during the day (when they're human). I wanted to keep beast blood on tap but alas when the worker transforms into a werewolf it's a new entity and no longer counts as imprisoned.
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Demiurge4 posted:My only negative experience in V Rising was when I thought I was a big brained genius by imprisoning a werewolf during the day (when they're human). I wanted to keep beast blood on tap but alas when the worker transforms into a werewolf it's a new entity and no longer counts as imprisoned. That sounds like a bug. I would make the same choice. From my initial experience of V Rising being pretty weak, I’ve now sunk like a dozen or two ours in and really enjoy it.
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If anyone is interested there’s a Mapgoons group on an EU server and we’re pretty active. The server has an increased cap on players and it’s usually almost full so there’s loads of action to go around.
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Demiurge4 posted:My only negative experience in V Rising was when I thought I was a big brained genius by imprisoning a werewolf during the day (when they're human). I wanted to keep beast blood on tap but alas when the worker transforms into a werewolf it's a new entity and no longer counts as imprisoned. I didn't even know werewolves we're on the game until I turned in to a village and got my poo poo wrecked.
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Fuzz posted:Zim-eet-zee
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my only real complaint aout v rising is no native controller support. Combat is a bit difficult using the control schemes from steam
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VRising Devs posted:Many players have been asking about the status of offline play, and the ability to play on a private server with absolutely no connection to the internet. Right now, the game doesn't allow for this, but it's fully our intention that it does. They said, a week ago. From what I can tell, there's still no offline mode and no update from the devs explaining why it's still not in the game. That's pretty frustrating.
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Mr Scumbag posted:Heh, so I've bought and refunded two different vampire games in two days now. That feeding thing is a real bummer. I don't think the QTE there is designed well if inaction leads to the victim being drained. If anything, it should be a mediocre and safe success to accommodate an unskilled player. I'm trying to come up with some "before I play" tips. If anyone has any spoiler-free, generally good advice things, I'm open to suggestions or you can add them yourself: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2969807&pagenumber=862#post523695784
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I also found out why I wasn't able to skip stuff. Apparently it will only let you skip dialogue/cutscenes if you've already played through the chapter/game. I don't even have words for how loving dumb that is. Edit: Mr Scumbag posted:They said, a week ago. From what I can tell, there's still no offline mode and no update from the devs explaining why it's still not in the game. Updating this: They have just released an update that allows for offline play, but the wording in the notes makes it sound like you have to put Steam in offline mode to do it, which makes it pretty inconvenient. Can anyone who has the game clarify if this is the case? I just want to be able to play a fully local game without having to disconnect either Steam or my VPN. Mr Scumbag fucked around with this message at 12:45 on May 25, 2022 |
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it sounds like Swansong isn't so much "eurojank" as "just poo poo" i don't recall having any problems playing The Council, either technically or from a gaemplay perspective. sounds like the studio lost some talent or something
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precision posted:it sounds like Swansong isn't so much "eurojank" as "just poo poo" I'm not sure if it had the same case of only setting you skip sections you'd already completed because I only worked out it was possible to skip dialogue on my second run (for achievements) but The Council had chapters divided into sections and autosaved after every dialogue so if you wanted to redo anything you had to either quit and reload before the end of the conversation or restart the whole section. So yeah, it was still pretty tedious. I think they don't want you to be save-scumming sections but in practice you still can it's just really annoying to do it. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 25, 2022 |
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Inzombiac posted:V Rising let's you move full storage crates without emptying them first. What? How?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What? How? Just go into build mode and pick it up! You can't like, put it in your inventory and run across the map, but it works great for rearranging your castle.
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Inzombiac posted:V Rising let's you move full storage crates without emptying them first. So apparently there's an entirely new game world/map you can unlock in the post game or something? Not sure if it's even in yet as I haven't gotten there, but the latest quest talks about a blood key that unlocks access to an entire new dimension to conquer or something like that. Game is ridiculously content heavy for an EA title. Just realized dark silver and equivalent clothes aren't even end game gear and there's apparently multiple post final boss bosses hidden in the world as well.
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Nephthys posted:I'm not sure if it had the same case of only setting you skip sections you'd already completed because I only worked out it was possible to skip dialogue on my second run (for achievements) but The Council had chapters divided into sections and autosaved after every dialogue so if you wanted to redo anything you had to either quit and reload before the end of the conversation or restart the whole section. Swansong does the exact same thing. I've reloaded autosave because I hosed up a confrontation and just reloaded back to the start of the confrontation to try again.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What? How? Absolutely everything can be picked up and placed again at no cost in build mode. No need to disassemble stuff to refit your castle. I personally run my game with 100% refund instead of the base 75% because it makes experimenting with designs more fun and doesn't make anything OP. Plus, you'll soon have so much goddamn wood and stone that you can build and build and build like a crazy person.
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One time when our castle got raided the timer ran out and while I was still all red on my gear and everything was hosed, I picked up two doors from a pair of side rooms and trapped the entire enemy team in a hallway. They didn't have another golem on them so they all had to use the unstuck command, which kills them, and they escaped with none of our loot. One of our team is a legendary poo poo talker and bullied them on voice chat for 20 minutes until they gave up and used unstuck.
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drat, makes me wish I had a group to play with but my schedule is too weird. The Steam page says offline mode is supposed to be patched in today.
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Does Swansong have any kind of new game plus? Apparently The Council didn't even though this kind of game seems completely designed for it.
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How would it work? You already know how to solve each episode and you have the autoskip, don't know what else they could put in.
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grate deceiver posted:How would it work? You already know how to solve each episode and you have the autoskip, don't know what else they could put in. You would have upgraded stats basically.
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Makes sense I guess, but the stats don't seem to matter much. So far I've cleared the first "big" episode of each character and they seem always solvable. The stat checks give you additional background info, but for everything that matters you always have tools placed in the level. So once you know what to do you can just breeze through it anyway. And also when you reload a level, you can allocate your exp all over again, so if there's a check you really want to pass, it's easy to put some points where you need them.
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A few minutes in Cheat Engine should allow you to re-allocate all your stats from an old game to a new character. I've used to to "add" New Game+ to a bunch of games before.
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This game makes me want to throw my controller through a window. Was doing the first real level and accidentally clicked the point of no return because the icon to denote it at such I didn't notice because the camera is super close and your body blocks your view and the icons don't appear until you get close and now I have to redo the entire loving level. How the gently caress do you not have a confirm prompt for that. Why the gently caress can I not skip dialogue until I beat the level. Whoever designed these things please go gently caress off and learn any quality of life lessons at all.
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cheesetriangles posted:This game makes me want to throw my controller through a window. Was doing the first real level and accidentally clicked the point of no return because the icon to denote it at such I didn't notice because the camera is super close and your body blocks your view and the icons don't appear until you get close and now I have to redo the entire loving level. How the gently caress do you not have a confirm prompt for that. Why the gently caress can I not skip dialogue until I beat the level. Whoever designed these things please go gently caress off and learn any quality of life lessons at all. Sometimes I forget that this thread isn't *really* about Bloodlines II anymore because it can't really be, so I read this and I was like 'wtf????' for a full second before I realized the context.
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cheesetriangles posted:Does Swansong have any kind of new game plus? Apparently The Council didn't even though this kind of game seems completely designed for it. I found a cheat table that lets you open the debug menu and freely allocate stats. Be a little careful with the Prince's court, because triggers are shared between characters with the assumption that you're gated out of specific areas. If a different character's voice starts playing for interactions, you're in danger of breaking triggers. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I've found dialogue in the prologue that's not possible to get otherwise, but I haven't played the game enough to know for sure.
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Apparently even when you're able to skip dialogue in Swansong, you have to hold the space bar down to do so which is just a loving baffling choice on top of an already idiotic choice to bar you from doing so until you've already completed the game/chapter. I have to doubt whether the developers have ever played a game in their life. It also allegedly has a habit of arbitrarily forcing you to walk rather than run in certain places, and it's sloooooooow. I've also read that there are certain stats in the game that are almost completely useless, so that's great. And that loving kid's voice... Jesus H Christ. Frankly, from the little I played and what I've heard, it just sounds like a bad game. At the very least, there might be something decent there but it fights against your enjoyment at every goddamn step. I just don't understand how game developers are still having issues with incredibly basic aspects of gameplay that have been complained about for decades and have largely been solved in many games for many years. It makes you wonder who actually playtests them, and if they are either unfamiliar with games/QOL or if the devs are just so stubborn they refuse to listen to perfectly reasonable feedback. In the brief time I played, the best time I had was reading the backstories of the characters in the menu. I quite enjoyed reading about their human life and what lead up to their siring, and then what they got up to in the subsequent decades/centuries. There's an awful lot of France. Either way, I'm pretty much 100% certain that the best way forward for VTM games is the Choice Of Games style CYOA games and the Shadows of New York style visual novels, though it's seeming less and less likely we'll ever see more of the latter. I'd kind of like Telltale to take a shot at a VTM game. It'll never happen though.
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Yeah, I'm nearing the end of Swansong and it's very mid. Story is decent, though the choices don't seem to have a super big impact, but maybe that'll come together in the ending somehow. But even so, I don't think there's any point in replaying. Technically it's pretty bad - the skipping thing, uninspired gameplay, bugginess, terrible VA. I'd say it would be worth checking out at like 60% discount (or just torrent it), as a visual novel with pretty graphics. For AAA price, not in a million years.
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Ok, finished Swansong and I maintain my 'very mid' ranking. The skills and disciplines are not utilised very well. Education and Deduction exist solely to give you like a single extra lore tidbit or a hint to puzzles that are pretty easy to figure out anyway. Sometimes you can get a focus point in conversation out of it I guess. Not worth putting more than 2 points at most. I also don't think I've seen a single check with difficulty higher than 3 in the entire game. Lockpicking and Hacking similarly are pretty useless. For important locks, there will always be a code or key obtained somewhere in the level. For locks not related to main goals, they rarely have anything interesting behind them. So those skills exist mainly to bypass the puzzles that, like I said earlier, are pretty easy anyway. Dialogue skills are the important ones, because they allow you to win confrontations, and there are a lot of checks. So those are the only ones worth investing in. Disciplines are very underutilised, each environmental power is used once or twice and then never again. In a few cases, if there's a puzzle requiring a specific discipline, there will be a tremere potion somewhere in the level that will give it to you for the duration of the scene in case you didn't invest enough points. The dialogue powers are a bit more useful, especially the one that makes you auto-succeed at skill checks. There was also a dumb stealth section by the end, that I had to complete with the character that had Obfuscation 5 by that point, but I wasn't allowed to use it for some reason. C'mon. Overall verdict: story good, the lore and all the plots and betrayals going on were pretty solid. The execution though: ehhh.
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grate deceiver posted:In a few cases, if there's a puzzle requiring a specific discipline, there will be a tremere potion somewhere in the level that will give it to you for the duration of the scene in case you didn't invest enough points. Oh, gently caress that. That kind of design is so lovely and undermines all of the systems they've built to begin with. Systems that rely on characters being creative with builds. Only to have it not really matter. It's just lazy. It reeks of poor planning. They made the game, then realized that it would be impossible for some people to actually finish it if they chose this skills "wrongly" so they threw that poo poo in and called it a day. Or they actually designed it that way. There's no way around it, either way, it's just poo poo. It sounds like all the skill distributions do is determine which "flavor" you get out of interactions. The dialogue skills probably differ a bit, but I can't imagine they change TOO much about the game or plot since even huge studios can't go too hard on path branching. I might see if I can find a detailed plot synopsis since I would like to see how the story pans out. But gently caress actually playing it.
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Hard disagree with the thread title change. FB2SA: Frontload Bloodlines 2 Shaming Always
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grate deceiver posted:Overall verdict: story good, the lore and all the plots and betrayals going on were pretty solid. The execution though: ehhh. I think this is true, but I suspect I’m much more willing to put up with mediocre/poor execution for the lore stuff. And I think the story was a lot of fun.
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I really want the action style of Bloodhubt in a cool SP game. I don't like competitive games but it's a pretty cool style.
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