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If it weren't a prequel with a load of characters we know then they could have all the cool mystery aliens they wanted!
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The Grumbles posted:I'm sorry pals. I just wanted to share a fun goofy clip from star trek that I liked. I think they’re just doing a very good job at disguising it. There’s rarely a scene where there’s more than two characters participating, and if there is, a pair will usually break off from the crowd to do their dialogue. For example, I get the feeling the dinner table scene with Uhura in the second episode was done with some clever cutting to make it feel like everyone was there at once, but they probably weren’t.
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May 31, 2022 19:58
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It's night and day from how it turned out for Picard. The goofus and gallant of modern Trek.
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May 31, 2022 20:06
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Professor Beetus posted:It's night and day from how it turned out for Picard. The goofus and gallant of modern Trek. It is nothing short of incredible how Akiva Goldsman has showhow showran both an absolutely abysmal Star Trek show and an absolutely amazing Star Trek show... at basically the same time 
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May 31, 2022 21:54
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My impression is that he was more focused on Picard (since Matalas was prepping S3) because they were shot back to back. Henry Alonso Myers (co showrunner SNW) seems like he knew what was going on. Edit: Akiva is also credited as Producer on 6 projects and EP on 5 shows... Since 2021 xerxus fucked around with this message at 22:06 on May 31, 2022 |
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May 31, 2022 22:03
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I suspect it has a lot more to do with the format of the shows than anything else. Picard is a vehicle they assembled at breakneck pace for an aging actor who probably has very little patience for virtual sets at this point in his life that they just felt the need to crank out ASAP. literally every aspect of the show screams "rushed," from the copy pasted ships in the S1 finale to the endless downtown LA scenes in Season 2, to the story that barely makes sense. Meanwhile they've been baking SNW since a few months after Discovery S2 with a cast that is game for pretty much whatever, and a format where they can tell individual stories.
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May 31, 2022 22:40
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Yeah, SNW definitely feels like a show that’s been gestating for a while. It’ll be interesting to see if that tone persists between seasons.
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May 31, 2022 23:38
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Geez you guys are really getting bent out of shape about me making fun of the silly cuts in that "previously on" bit from Discovery.
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Jun 1, 2022 00:08
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nine-gear crow posted:It is nothing short of incredible how Akiva Goldsman has showhow showran both an absolutely abysmal Star Trek show and an absolutely amazing Star Trek show... at basically the same time Maybe he doesn't actually know what the gently caress he's doing, gets shitfaced at lunchtime, goes home and lets the 'little people' do any actual work.
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Jun 1, 2022 00:24
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I mean I don't know Akiva Goldsman but I've worked jobs with a boss before
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Jun 1, 2022 00:25
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I mean Goldsman won an Oscar for writing A Beautiful Mind and also wrote Batman & Robin so inconsistencies are consistent. But the real key to understanding his career is that like the other notorious franchise destroyer JJ Abrams his father (in law) has a blue name on Wikipedia. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Yeah Batman & Robin was good but Khanstant fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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Arglebargle III posted:I mean Goldsman won an Oscar for writing A Beautiful Mind and also wrote Batman & Robin so inconsistencies are consistent. I mean family dynasties are not really unknown in Hollywood. Nicholas Cage changed his name to avoid his success being dependent on his family's connections
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alexandriao posted:I mean family dynasties are not really unknown in Hollywood. Nicholas Cage changed his name to avoid his success being dependent on his family's connections And named himself after Power Man
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Jun 1, 2022 01:10
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Also as lovely as The Rise of Skywalker was, I suspect it had way more to do with Disney than Abrams, Rian Johnson did a huge (awesome IMO) divergence from the content of prior Star Wars stories and Disney definitely panicked.
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Charity Porno posted:Also as lovely as The Rise of Skywalker was, I suspect it had way more to do with Disney than Abrams, Rian Johnson did a huge (awesome IMO) divergence from the content of prior Star Wars stories and Disney definitely panicked. I mean, I don’t think anyone could have followed up on TLJ very well. He basically just decimated every potential ongoing plot point and tied everything up.
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holefoods posted:I mean, I don’t think anyone could have followed up on TLJ very well. He basically just decimated every potential ongoing plot point and tied everything up. As much as I love that movie, it would have been better as the end of the trilogy.
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holefoods posted:I mean, I don’t think anyone could have followed up on TLJ very well. He basically just decimated every potential ongoing plot point and tied everything up. I'm not sure I agree, I think a hypothetical 3rd film that built off of TLJ would have had fewer opportunities for "gotcha" moments or twists, but it's the final act in a story and a straightforward action-adventure movie about our small band of heroes we like taking down the fascist empire led by an unstable proud boy could have been rad. To actually say something about nu-Trek, the last episode was the best of SNW yet! I really liked the submarine vibes and the desperation of the crew, I like how the show is really using its ensemble with these episodes focusing on different characters. While I love Anson Mount, if SNW had just turned into the Captain Pike show I would have been a bit disappointed, and the whole cast is quality.
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Jun 1, 2022 03:39
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I'm twelve episodes into Disco and, uh, next season is better, right?
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CPColin posted:I'm twelve episodes into Disco and, uh, next season is better, right? lol
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No its going to be like that for four seasons strap in
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CPColin posted:I'm twelve episodes into Disco and, uh, next season is better, right? S2 is better purely because it’s proto-Strange New Worlds. Then it just becomes beige nonsense.
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Rewatching The Orville to prepare for season 3 and wow new Trek really leans on the “make sure everything looks cool!” aesthetic instead of calming down and telling a story.
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Khanstant posted:Yeah Batman & Robin was good but Wrong movie, A Beautiful Mind is Russell Crowe losing his marbles as a physicist. You're thinking Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Other notable thing about A Beautiful Mind is its killer soundtrack from James Horner, who got one of his first starts... on Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.
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holefoods posted:I mean, I don’t think anyone could have followed up on TLJ very well. He basically just decimated every potential ongoing plot point and tied everything up. With the theme that power can come from any ordinary place, you know it was leading to the plucky band convincing all sentient beings of the SW galaxy to lend their energy to Rey so she could use the spirit bomb to destroy Kylo Ren. And it would have been a better end to the trilogy.
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maybe kylo could’ve been like piccolo
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he will always be the mean boyfriend from Girls and I don't think I even finished one season of that show and don't remember anything else from it.
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CPColin posted:I'm twelve episodes into Disco and, uh, next season is better, right? So I finally finished my DS9 watch-through tonight. Pretty wild seeing them flat out drop scenes because they ran out of time. Wasn't as bad of an ending as I'd been led to believe. Great show. Now I gotta watch the documentary and be sad that they won't remaster it. Also, don't get me started on how TLJ was a phenomenal showcase of what Star Wars could've become only to be dashed by the inability for any writers to handle the ire of extreme internet nerds. Rian Johnson's trilogy, if it ever happens, will be the best thing to hit Star Wars since Timothy Olyphant.
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The worst crime of Disco is wasting Michelle Yeoh. E: Spoiler for those of you brave enough to be watching Star trek discovery in tyool 2022.
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Butternubs posted:The worst crime of Disco is wasting Michelle Yeoh. oh god that looks so bad on repeat.
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holefoods posted:Rewatching The Orville to prepare for season 3 and wow new Trek really leans on the “make sure everything looks cool!” aesthetic instead of calming down and telling a story. What’s your point here? The Orville isn’t Star Trek.
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We need a gory death counter for Burnham
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The_Doctor posted:What’s your point here? The Orville isn’t Star Trek. I think there's an implied "as opposed to The Orville". E: "and non-new Star Trek".
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Charity Porno posted:As much as I love that movie, it would have been better as the end of the trilogy. ...it was the end of the trilogy. They never made another Star Wars movie. 
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Trilogy? I think you'll find there is only one movie called Star Wars and it's a classic.
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Khanstant posted:Trilogy? I think you'll find there is only one movie called Star Wars and it's a classic. You’d think Attack of the Clones would have some other context, but I guess they were going for some in medias res experiment.
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DaveKap posted:So I finally finished my DS9 watch-through tonight. Pretty wild seeing them flat out drop scenes because they ran out of time. Wasn't as bad of an ending as I'd been led to believe. Great show. Now I gotta watch the documentary and be sad that they won't remaster it. I've never heard anyone complain about the ending. How weird. And yeah, I'm in the middle of a rewatch with my gf, who has never seen it, and the resolution is rough af
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Akiva is just co-show runner, so we don't know how much he has to do with day-to-day production. Rick Berman was an EP on both DS9 and VOY but DS9 got away with a lot more because Berman was more focused on VOY. DS9 wanted to do an extended Dominion War Arc, Berman told them "you can do a two parter" so they just ignored him and did it anyway and by the time he noticed it was too late. VOY wanted to do a whole season of Year of Hell, Berman told them "you can do a two parter" but because he was there all the time they had to.Charity Porno posted:I've never heard anyone complain about the ending. How weird. Easily the best of the series finales. Yes I think All Good Things is overrated.
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That makes me think about the opposite end of finales. Like, is "Turnabout Intruder" worse than "These Are the Voyages?" A case could be made.
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Probably Magic posted:That makes me think about the opposite end of finales. Like, is "Turnabout Intruder" worse than "These Are the Voyages?" A case could be made. does Turnabout Intruder really count as a finale? it's the last episode of TOS but it's definitely not a conclusion or send-off the way any of the other series' last episodes are
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