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SmokaDustbowl posted:I was going to the store today and someone was playing a native drum and singing, dunno why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-4XlYv-gbs
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I learned Perl as one of my programming first languages and it taught me all the wrong conventional wisdom about programming languages. e: pics tax 
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someone on these forums once called perl a write only language and that’s really stuck with me.
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how pray tell do people purport to handle log files without perl? like what's replacing it for doing regular expressions on lots of lines of textual logged output
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Sniep posted:how pray tell do people purport to handle log files without perl? i mean, sed? sed is right there. it is a stream editor
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outputting structured data in the first place i guess
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how old is syslog()? i mean yeah i am being dejectedly grumpy, its poo poo, perl is fine, wish it was not like this
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tbqh anybody doing more than 10 RPS in cdn land is already logging to a json format, which i think is grody, but we're making progress. Sniep-sama's observation that perl does log munging better than any other language given a random syslog entry is one thousand percent correct, though.
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Sniep posted:how pray tell do people purport to handle log files without perl? people are using splunk or something instead lol
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I posted the picture of Perl-man because he had a cowboy hatte.
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Lake of Methane posted:I posted the picture of Perl-man because he had a cowboy hatte. at least we're not all posing+fawning over that pic of his daughter yospos has changed in the past decade. yospos has changed for the better
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ultrafilter posted:I don't know whether Perl or Tcl/Tk fell harder but it's definitely not obviously Perl. I wonder if you can still do tcl scripts on modern cisco boxes
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ruby is such an effortless language to write and maintain in, haters are just broke brained
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https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1532157559750410241?s=20&t=LiWDDJYFQMthuZiI22gm4w (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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KoRMaK posted:ruby is such an effortless language to write and maintain in, haters are just broke brained rubby
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rotor posted:rubby
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I hope that why dude got the help he so clearly needed
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Work has a tech graveyard They did a LOT of graphics with Lightwave 3D
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KoRMaK posted:https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1532157559750410241?s=20&t=LiWDDJYFQMthuZiI22gm4w what about no monitor? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Roosevelt posted:what about no monitor? satori
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Roosevelt posted:what about no monitor? doesn't have the tie fighter, it's bullshit
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KoRMaK posted:ruby is such an effortless language to write and maintain in, haters are just broke brained kormak is a person whose opinion I respect. he got me onto unreal engine and knows a few things about programming languages. well I assume they does and for what it’s worth, the odin project, which is a thing, and idk if it’s considered worthy or not, has a ruby doing rails pathway, as well as a javascript pathway, and that tells me that ruby is worthwhile
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the thing that killed any interest in rails for me was a conference i went to in like uh 2006 where the presenter was doing a live demo of how easy it was to create a CRUD rails app from the command line or whatever and it kept failing over and over. it took like half an hour for him to debug the problem. motherfucker had written a goddamn book on rails (on a reputable publisher iirc) and still was falling all over himself trying to get it to work ruby itself like any other lang is ok if you are super disciplined about how you use it. though i still write stupid perl scripts named asdf.pl to mangle text files into a different format when I need to. image tax
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:the thing that killed any interest in rails for me was a conference i went to in like uh 2006 where the presenter was doing a live demo of how easy it was to create a CRUD rails app from the command line or whatever and it kept failing over and over. it took like half an hour for him to debug the problem. Never really understood the appeal of frameworks that claim to let you scaffold a whole CRUD in seconds. The result is opinionated frameworks that are only ergonomic in the narrowest of conventions or use cases, and in every other case you’re fighting them every step of the way to get them to do what you want. How many CRUD apps are you starting anyway, really
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Armitag3 posted:Never really understood the appeal of frameworks that claim to let you scaffold a whole CRUD in seconds. The result is opinionated frameworks that are only ergonomic in the narrowest of conventions or use cases, and in every other case you’re fighting them every step of the way to get them to do what you want. How many CRUD apps are you starting anyway, really In 2006-2008? Three or four a week.
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MrQueasy posted:In 2006-2008? yeah, especially certain types of consultants jumping around every couple months were littering the earth with CRUD apps of dubious but functional quality
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i was readying about a hair loss drugs and one of the side effects was “low quality semen” lol
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I liked perl when I used it for scripting some science stuff. it felt like I could program perl by banging my fists on the keyboard and produce working but ugly code. today I would have prob used python or even R.
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 axolotl farmer posted:I liked perl when I used it for scripting some science stuff. it felt like I could program perl by banging my fists on the keyboard and produce working but ugly code. Eh, it's a glue language just like python so the heavy lifting is done in the same places but advantage python for having bytecode caching Perl6 was the Chinese Democracy of programming languages echinopsis posted:i was readying about a hair loss drugs and one of the side effects was “low quality semen” lol Low quality in terms of fertility I guess but imo no goos is good news
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echinopsis posted:is there much perl can do python can’t? it's easy to get perl to do something python sort of forces you to do things the right way, and that's good and all, but not necessarily what you want when writing a glue script. R smacks you with a rolled up newspaper every time you try to write a for loop instead of doing it the correct way with vectors. I'm a biologist and I don't get vectors and why they are superior even if they are.
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