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thunderbird has improved a bit, the calendar is built-in and seems to work without issue now. Not great but it'l always be a better option than electron. Anyway that poo poo about there being 2 indistinguishable versions of teams reminded me that in windows 10/11 there are currently two apps called "Remote Desktop" that are functionally completely unrelated. The only way I have to tell one from another is the launch icon, and since I'm regularly using both, launching remote desktop from the keyboard has become a real chore because the start menu always picks the wrong one. also the new remote desktop for VDI is janky poo poo that fails all the time for no reason i guess what i'm trying to say is that microsoft is still microsoft e: goddamn the worst snipe
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Shaggar posted:looks like its at 20% of windows installs as of may which is way higher than i would have guessed because they trick old people into updating
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burning swine posted:also the new remote desktop for VDI is janky poo poo that fails all the time for no reason when it does this go into process explorer and kill msrdc.exe, then it will work I'm not kidding
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burning swine posted:thunderbird has improved a bit, the calendar is built-in and seems to work without issue now. Not great but it'l always be a better option than electron. use rd tabs instead, op
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i used rdcman when i was a windows server janitor instead of a code janitor
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rdcman was discontinued for awhile so i ended up using rd tabs. i like it better than rdcman so i haven't gone back even though sysinternals revived rdcman vOv
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I like rdcman a lot, probably moreso now that it's been taken over by sysinternals. I use it for all my typical rdp stuff. For VDI (azure-hosted virtual desktops), however, MS requires this dumb new client. normal RDP clients need not apply. This new "remote desktop" asks you to subscribe to a url provided by your employer, then pops some RDP links into its UI. anyway I can't work currently because this happens when I click "subscribe". The error pops up before any opportunity to provide credentials  awww yeah
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burning swine posted:I like rdcman a lot, probably moreso now that it's been taken over by sysinternals. I use it for all my typical rdp stuff. lmao, i really hate that every error in modern ms stuff is "Something went wrong" just give me the inscrutable technobabble poo poo so i can solve it
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Beeftweeter posted:lmao, i really hate that every error in modern ms stuff is "Something went wrong" install linux
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Sapozhnik posted:install linux [nixonian muttering] jesus christ, bob, Something went wrong
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burning swine posted:I like rdcman a lot, probably moreso now that it's been taken over by sysinternals. I use it for all my typical rdp stuff. You could try using the web version though; it's just slightly shittier and doesn't support extensions but almost nobody uses rdp client extensions. mystes fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jun 15, 2022 |
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yeah thats the workaround and it's sufficient not like using the desktop app was much better still, the daily battle against entropy on windows is really not going well
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tazjin posted:is there a thing where i can rent a windows vm ~in the cloud~ with excel preinstalled you can do this with amazon workspaces, i use it for chunky excel sheets from time to time
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Beeftweeter posted:lmao, i really hate that every error in modern ms stuff is "Something went wrong" someone has stolen your trees
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I thought windows touchers had moved away from rdp and used remote power shell and that server manager app these days
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cowboy beepboop posted:I thought windows touchers had moved away from rdp and used remote power shell and that server manager app these days my school uses a cisco vpn and people rdp to their office computer to wfh. they do this across all departments. friend of mine works at the local pbs station that is technically part of the college and does wfh via rdp as well.
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Cold on a Cob posted:i tried it on my home pc first because all i do on it is shitpost and listen to music and it's failing on the latter so i'm going back to my mac mini lol another few days with 11 at home and it's shocking how janky it is. the only part i love is right clicking on the maximize button for moving windows around so i don't have to setup fancy zones in power tools e: i could care less about the start menu changes. some things look better but are flaky. centering the icons is handy on ultra-wides. winget is nice but still missing a lot of stuff i need so i setup choco anyway. very meh, the
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the start menu is supremely bad in 11 the right click menus hiding the actual right click menu really piss me off too
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Beeftweeter posted:the right click menus hiding the actual right click menu really piss me off too i forgot about that. it's terrible and they need to just make it easy for users to edit them to hide/disable things that installers add to it instead.
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i must report i finally installed the aforementioned explorer patcher and it does indeed solve all of those problems i have the windows 11 taskbar but the start menu is rounded 10-style, plus context menus work the way they should
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good to know there are options if i'm forced by work to upgrade vOv
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Gentle Autist posted:you can do this with amazon workspaces, i use it for chunky excel sheets from time to time i ended up using some dodgy proprietary linux software called "wps office" which i can only assume is based on a microsoft source leak, as it seems to be able to handle the full complexity of these insane file formats i also ran it sandboxed and strace'd it on the first run and it was stat'ing things like `~/.local/keyrings` so, you know, be safe out there
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welp teams just stopped working. was fine on wednesday but now its not showing video (just grey). i have no idea if im visible on the other end either lol
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Carthag Tuek posted:welp teams just stopped working. was fine on wednesday but now its not showing video (just grey). i have no idea if im visible on the other end either lol i use the high contrast theme in teams because it owns and they broke that as well. in the chats list it used to have the contact's name in yellow and most recent message snippet in white, now it's just all yellow. such a dogshit app lol
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it’s really loving bad and all I can figure is because it’s using the worst technologies: share point and SIMPLE all packaged up to work on electron
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Beeftweeter posted:
This, the way I never get the menu I expect when clicking a tray icon and notifications randomly ignoring 'do not disturb' have led me to try a Linux as my main os, and I gotta say going from KDE back to W11, it's windows that feels jankier.
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Hed posted:it’s really loving bad and all I can figure is because it’s using the worst technologies: share point and SIMPLE all packaged up to work on electron they need to get the vs code team to un-gently caress teams. they seem to be the only ones capable of making an electron desktop app that isn't absolute loving rear end (as i understand microsoft dog-fooding vs code is part of the reason why it doesn't totally suck but maybe that's an urban legend). e: ofc there's no fixing the whole god drat "SPO as a backend" garbage.
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jammyozzy posted:This, the way I never get the menu I expect when clicking a tray icon and notifications randomly ignoring 'do not disturb' have led me to try a Linux as my main os, and I gotta say going from KDE back to W11, it's windows that feels jankier. was going to post about how annoying it is to interact with onedrive from the system tray but they've "fixed it" in the most unintuitive way possible. left-click shows the usual onedrive menu and right-click shows the same menu however the cog in the top-right of the menu also expands to reveal a menu atop the menu ahahah edit: no wait it's actually fuckin worse. one right-click shows the regular menu and spawns a tool-tip below the cog then if you right-click again it expands the menu from the cog like what in the gently caress Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Aug 19, 2022 |
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Pile Of Garbage posted:e: ofc there's no fixing the whole god drat "SPO as a backend" garbage.
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mystes posted:I could be wrong because this is just a baseless assumption on my part, but as horrifying as "sharepoint as a backend" is in general, I assume that with office 365 it's really more just like "sharepoint is another frontend to the same data" on the backend anyway? They still shouldn't integrate it with sharepoint because it makes everything about teams more complicated and dumb but I imagine that it's not like stuff in teams is breaking because it actually has to go through sharepoint apis or something yeah you're probably right. obviously they'd need proper teams endpoints to do RTSP stuff, amongst other things. in those cases if it is using SPO on the backend wouldnt be an issue. honestly it's hard to tell what is breaking most of the time when the app acts up but im p sure a lot of it is on that electron front-end. that said i just did 4 days of 8 hour teams calls this week for training and it didn't explode. ofc i didn't try to do anything else on my laptop whilst in the calls, doubt thta would have ended well.
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this is a really basic bitch but why the gently caress does it include the name and timestamp when I try to copy a snippet of text from a chat message. nobody has ever wanted that part tagged onto their clipboard like it's an online encyclopedia website plus it breaks paths and stuff
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my fave is the way Teams will just add parameters to URLs that you click on, leading people to embed those parameters into our web pages. or the way Sharepoint online has no way of just right clicking and opening links in new windows when in the page or document library, you gotta Get A Link instead, which then also has some janky rear end parameters randomly attached it them. or the way Teams will just randomly reassign my audio device to some USB thing, instead of the headset I've been using for years. thanks satya
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Chris Knight posted:my fave is the way Teams will just add parameters to URLs that you click on, leading people to embed those parameters into our web pages. I do have to LOL whenever I see a link where the actual HREF is urldefense.proofpoint.com but sounds like your headset isn't Teams Certified
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~Coxy posted:this is a really basic bitch but why the gently caress does it include the name and timestamp when I try to copy a snippet of text from a chat message. its litterrally that the browser fails to determine what to select when you drag over the message so it incorrectly includes other elements in the selection. this is because teams is bad and html is bad and javascript is bad and chome is bad
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Chris Knight posted:or the way Sharepoint online has no way of just right clicking and opening links in new windows when in the page or document library, you gotta Get A Link instead, which then also has some janky rear end parameters randomly attached it them. i love how if i open a document from sharepoint and it loads in like excel or word online i have no way of navigating from the opened document back to the original folder in sharepoint. at work ive got a bunch of docs in SPO bookmarked for convenience but i have no idea where they actually are in sharepoint. oh also sharepoint URLs are amazing. just incredibly massive, even the special sharing ones you can copy.
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~Coxy posted:I do have to LOL whenever I see a link where the actual HREF is urldefense.proofpoint.com
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