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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Hmm... I didn't buy the preorder bundle for this set but what if I just got the mastery pass... I already have enough xp for the draft token, maybe it's Good Value lol Lone Goat solved the same problem for me last week: Lone Goat posted:1500 gems for the draft token So if you're drafting and keeping up on daily xp, you always get the gems back from the pass.
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I regret to inform the Historic Brawl fans that today's CGB video has Tasha as a commander for that format. So be prepared to run into a lot more of that.
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Re. The "not many good 2 drops in the format" comment I should clarify that there are a bunch of very good 2 drops but the quality falls off quickly, so it feels like in both aggro decks and more midrange decks you are always on the lookout for more good 2 drops since it's rare you'll get more than you want Admittedly that might just be my experience talking on this one In terms of limited advice the Limited Level Ups discord is a good place and free (also listen to Limited Level Ups)
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Jul 14, 2022 22:10
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So, this dragon brawl thing...is that 5k buy-in only for the card styles you'll get all of if you play for long enough to win enough, or do you at least get to keep the precon deck? That's a single one you choose of the five, right?Lone Goat posted:Caveat that I don't agree with the idea "there aren't a lot of great two drops in this format" because there are, especially in white and black. This set is very aggressive so it's important to have early interaction, whether it's inexpensive removal or cheap creatures that can attack others block. Also, I was exaggerating a little, I don't just trade willy nilly. Again, I was mostly thinking about the kinds of constructed decks I've been playing, where each creature was rather expendable so far.
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Yeah Vampire Spawn is not constructed playable... Maybe in the Evelyn deck where the type matters, but there's probably better 3-drops
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Simply Simon posted:So, this dragon brawl thing...is that 5k buy-in only for the card styles you'll get all of if you play for long enough to win enough, or do you at least get to keep the precon deck? That's a single one you choose of the five, right? The dragon brawl is 2 art styles per win play as much as you want. You get nothing except art from it. If you're new don't do it.
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Coasted to 5 wins with Myriim for the event, without any ramp for 3/5 games. Getting two giant dragons is more than enough
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for some reason, historic brawl got a LOT more... cutthroat? like you actually have to look up decks and know the meta now. It sucks now.
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A Moose posted:for some reason, historic brawl got a LOT more... cutthroat? like you actually have to look up decks and know the meta now. It sucks now. iirc they have to manually reshuffle the things that put the top tier decks in their own miniqueue + they haven't done it since before new capenna came out (raffine reanimator  ). it might do it a little bit on its own, but give it a bit more timei can still get some low stakes matches going with my lovely raggadragga brew without trying very hard, though, so it's not impossible
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I think anything grixis is automatically tier 1, so your Evelyn and Admiral Beckett Brass is the same as Nicol Bolas, because I'm definitely in the hellqueue with lovely vampire tribal
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Shooting Blanks posted:I regret to inform the Historic Brawl fans that today's CGB video has Tasha as a commander for that format. So be prepared to run into a lot more of that. Oh booo, its paradox engine with tome of the infinite as the main win con. Thats just boring and not a great watch either. Yeah I've been going up against a lot more 5 color bullshit since baldurs gate came out. Bugsy fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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I made a Tiamat deck that owns and is great and I play big dragons. It doesn’t get placed against anything I would call s tier except Jetmir so the old balancing is still there. They could definitely stand to update it though.
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welp my mono green devotion list is unplayable now because plant dino is bugged and only counts basic lands for its second ability*. guess I'll break out rakdos midrange, but I think I need to update my list and shift around my sideboard. been seeing a lot more spirits in bo3 and less UW control so I'm going to test out a torch breath in lieu of one of my fry's E: nvm I just downloaded an update and they fixed it kalel fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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"Dragon's Rage Channeler" is, uh, a very good card Edit: this is the Izzet version of the Kitten Deck. As always, any suggestions are appreciated  Saheeli is even more important in this deck, as I am often swinging with those servos for damage, and she has more viable copying targets. Kitten + Chandra is wild, machine-gunning emblems or removal is very real. CharlieFoxtrot fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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Shoutout to the opponent who didn't fold to my playing Tasha on turn 4 in the final game of the final match of Traditional Draft. They held on until they could cast Hourglass Coven and managed to win with 39 seconds on the clock.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:"Dragon's Rage Channeler" is, uh, a very good card Is that a Tormod's Crypt in a deck with playsets of Dragon's Rage Channelers and Unholy Heats? The obvious question would be: is that better than, or even as good as, Izzet Phoenix?
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The Tormod's Crypt is a one-of to randomly hose reanimator/greasefang, which are the most common combo decks I run into that have a clean answer like that. It seems like a low deckbuilding cost to me since even in other matchups it's still a 0-mana spell that procs Kitten (and in this deck, also DRC and Saheeli) and so there's usually marginal value. Yeah it's probably not better than phoenix, but I don't want to play phoenix (which I have hated ever since it was in standard), I want to leverage Kitten and play planeswalkers
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The Tormod's Crypt is a one-of to randomly hose reanimator/greasefang, which are the most common combo decks I run into that have a clean answer like that. It seems like a low deckbuilding cost to me since even in other matchups it's still a 0-mana spell that procs Kitten (and in this deck, also DRC and Saheeli) and so there's usually marginal value. stick it in the side board imo
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:IME a lot of the discourse comes from Magic podcasts (Limited Level-Ups and Lords of Limited are probably the ones people would recommend for draft) and people who stream Arena on Twitch. Aside from those podcasters who also stream, I think Jim Davis's Bronze to Mythic series has been super helpful, especially since he starts each set from scratch and kind of builds lessons in each episode as he progresses through the ranks. Ithle01 posted:The dragon brawl is 2 art styles per win play as much as you want. You get nothing except art from it. If you're new don't do it.
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After playing some Explorer Bo3 Jeskai Creativity, I'm beginning to think that there is no format where Agent of Treachery is both playable, and a card that should exist. It should at least have the words "if you cast it" like the Eldrazi titans do, to make you do a little work to get it into play. Also Indomitable Creativity grabbing 2 of them on turn 4 is just stupid. (turn 3 fable of the mirror breaker, turn 4 Dwarven Mine, my other lands are a triome and 2 shocklands, attack, making a treasure, and target both my creatures.)
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I had a shower thought, what if they put urza's saga in Brother's War? Is that too crazy? To print it into not just standard, but pioneer and historic as well?
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There aren't the kind of artifacts to tutor for in standard etc. but yes, that sounds insane Though my historic Tempered Steel deck would love it!
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whenever i see a suggestion that a card could get printed into standard because the support that's part of why it's so busted in extended formats isn't there, i remember when people thought lotus cobra wasn't going to be very strong when it returned in ZNR because the only fetchlands that were available were evolving wilds and fabled passage
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I feel fairly confident in saying that they will not print Urza's Saga into Standard anytime soon, for a whole host of reasons but yes power level is chief among them. That said as someone who keeps thinking about artifact decks in Explorer and Historic, it would rule (until the better artifact decks crushed mine)
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The only reason I would want urzas saga printed into standard is that I have 2 paper copies and that's too few to run but a bit too expensive to complete the playset. Also the next set should contain all fetch lands and shocklands at uncommon but to balance out limited power all other cards would be vanilla creatures.
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MasterBuilder posted:The only reason I would want urzas saga printed into standard is that I have 2 paper copies and that's too few to run but a bit too expensive to complete the playset. Bring back 1999 era limited sets where the most efficient creature is a 3/3 for 4
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A Moose posted:After playing some Explorer Bo3 Jeskai Creativity, I'm beginning to think that there is no format where Agent of Treachery is both playable, and a card that should exist. It should at least have the words "if you cast it" like the Eldrazi titans do, to make you do a little work to get it into play. Also Indomitable Creativity grabbing 2 of them on turn 4 is just stupid. (turn 3 fable of the mirror breaker, turn 4 Dwarven Mine, my other lands are a triome and 2 shocklands, attack, making a treasure, and target both my creatures.) It's a very interactable combo though, because you're going to be casting Creativity on 1/1, 2/2 creatures or a treasure token. Those are like the easiest things to deal with. Nevermind tapping out into a counterspell.
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MikeCrotch posted:Bring back 1999 era limited sets where the most efficient creature is a 3/3 for 4 Wild that now 3/3 vigilance trample for 3 is "pretty good, great if it makes a treasure"
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Eej posted:It's a very interactable combo though, because you're going to be casting Creativity on 1/1, 2/2 creatures or a treasure token. Those are like the easiest things to deal with. Nevermind tapping out into a counterspell. The combo itself is fine I think, its just what you do with it that is broken. Like what are other targets besides Agent? You could grab the blue gearhulk, which can cast a Magma Opus from the GY, but that requires more setup. also very little synergy with mirror-breaker. You can grab Locust God and Sage of the Falls, but for that to work, you pretty much have to run 1 copy of each and not draw them because its 2 different creatures. Also you have to cast it for x=2 most of the time. You can grab Ulamog, but he doesn't do anything on ETB and you have to wait a turn to attack. Also legendary, so you can't grab multiples, or copy it with mirror-breaker. also much harder to hard cast. Agent is just so much better than every other big creature in the format its insane.
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Havin fun with this VOW quick draft
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I might try another one soon, went 6-3 with the last draft, my aggro/midrange BR vampires got stalled out by big butt BR vampires in the last game. We both went through so many blood tokens, I think I lost at around 9 cards left in deck.
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This Alchemy poo poo sucks and needs to go away forever
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Debated whether to spend my gold on a constructed event but I could use the change-up Draft #5  https://www.17lands.com/draft/ccf3335cb75044988ec0b7db1ee6895d Speaking of change-ups, throughout I was wondering whether I was just slotting into BW because that's the archetype I'm familiar with or if that was just the clear open lane for me. Almost started with picking the RG rare just for variety but ended up deciding Sarevok was the stronger pick. Opening Lae'zel P3P1 was lucky. I think I can play 16 lands with this since I have just two cards above 4, and everyone says 16 lands in BO1 is fine because of the hand smoothing? I also wonder whether I have enough small creatures to maximize Patriar's Humiliation and to facilitate Dispute/Wanderer.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Debated whether to spend my gold on a constructed event but I could use the change-up Cut Naga and a Wanderer for Monk and a land.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think I can play 16 lands with this since I have just two cards above 4, and everyone says 16 lands in BO1 is fine because of the hand smoothing? I also wonder whether I have enough small creatures to maximize Patriar's Humiliation and to facilitate Dispute/Wanderer. I don't think you're at the level to be shaving on lands. You're just setting yourself up for frustration.
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i wouldn't run 16 lands unless you have a good amount of draw and/or your curve barely gets past 4 and even that's a stretch remember, the 'hand smoothing' is just that there's two simulated opening hands out of your deck and it presents you with the one that has the "better" lands to spells ratio based on your deck's overall ratio. you're not guaranteed to have enough lands and it doesn't do anything additional after you mulligan or regarding your actual draws in the game, and if you're light on lands it might say 'hey, this 2 lander is better than a 4 lander' and you can just brick on a third land forever
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Also the deck is like half four drops so good luck casting them on time with 16 lands.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Debated whether to spend my gold on a constructed event but I could use the change-up no chance you play 16 lands in this deck. You want those 4 drops to hit consistently on t4. Guardian Naga isn't big enough to tussle at the high end. Lone Goat posted:Cut Naga and a Wanderer for Monk and a land. this is definitely the move
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Lone Goat posted:Also the deck is like half four drops so good luck casting them on time with 16 lands. A bit more than half the time on the draw, less than half the time on the play
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my opponent: are you ready for some extreme Bant Midrange bullshit?  me: oh don't worry. i'm playing Golgari value town. i have far more Pests than you have Depopulates
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