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Mode 7 posted:If you're willing to import or set up a Japanese eshop account, Aleste Collection is good and GG Aleste 3 in particular is fantastic. I have had a great time with both of these, they're fantastic.
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beer gas canister posted:Just found about Fightcade, and that it supports MAME titles. Battle Garegga is loving nuts lol Still probably the best shmup ever
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Switch Shmups, I found this list a while ago via googling, no idea who's maintaining it but it seems up-to-date and has almost every thing on there (also helpful for knowing sales)...very useful resource https://www.dekudeals.com/lists/h9wbjf?sort=discount_amount
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Hat Thoughts posted:Switch Shmups, I found this list a while ago via googling, no idea who's maintaining it but it seems up-to-date and has almost every thing on there (also helpful for knowing sales)...very useful resource there is no escaping Sine Mora
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I wondered why Battle Bakraid isn't mentioned as much as Battle Garegga. But it was explained to me that Battle Greg is a much better name.
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if you play sine mora with a controller that has autofire it becomes a much better game. had autofire been included as a menu option it would've been a really good game
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dishwasherlove posted:I wondered why Battle Bakraid isn't mentioned as much as Battle Garegga. But it was explained to me that Battle Greg is a much better name. Bakraid is amazing, as is all peak Raizing, I think it just gets forgotten about because it has never gotten a port and Batrider is slightly better rated. I hope they are on M2's list once they have finished all the other stuff
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I would probably have to call Batrider my favourite Raizing game, but Bakraid isn't too far behind. Haven't played either in years now though. Garegga I've given chance upon chance but I keep reaching the conclusion that outside of the soundtrack I'm just not a fan of it. Sine Mora might be the dullest shmup I've ever played.
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beer gas canister posted:Recommendations Thanks! Wishlisted several of these. I had a SHMUP stint like 20 years ago and bought a bunch of JP games from play-asia. Your list has several of the same games, i guess classics will be classics! beer gas canister posted:Binding of Isaac I guess SHMUP doesn't have an official definition but this doesn't feel like one to me, though i can't really explain why. bees x1000 posted:some big ones Great, thanks! I can't find Thunder Force AC in the store. Is region locking still a thing? Why is not Darius Cozmic Collection Console recommended? bees x1000 posted:oh yeah Capcom Arcade Stadium has good ones. What is this? Like an app that has games inside it? Hat Thoughts posted:Switch Shmups, I found this list a while ago via googling, no idea who's maintaining it but it seems up-to-date and has almost every thing on there (also helpful for knowing sales)...very useful resource 312 games, welp
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Ineptitude posted:Why is not Darius Cozmic Collection Console recommended? Just to answer this one specifically, as a big Darius fan, there is nothing on that collection that is at all essential like on the arcade collection; it's just a bunch of ports of Darius I and II, and then the two SNES games (which, shockingly for an M2 port, have input lag issues). So you're basically paying more for the Console collection, for some of the least important games in the series. If you want more Darius, save the money you bought on that, and pick up G-Darius HD, the one great Darius arcade game missing from the Cozmic Collection Arcade pack (or Dariusburst AC EX+, but I'd probably say to pick up Dariusburst Chronicle Saviors on PS4 or PC instead unless you know you want to take that game on the go).
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Ineptitude posted:I guess SHMUP doesn't have an official definition but this doesn't feel like one to me, though i can't really explain why.
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dishwasherlove posted:I wondered why Battle Bakraid isn't mentioned as much as Battle Garegga. My guess is that far fewer people play it seriously because the scoring system is some of the dumbest poo poo ever seen in any shmup. Ineptitude posted:I guess SHMUP doesn't have an official definition but this doesn't feel like one to me, though i can't really explain why. It varies depending on who you ask. Some consider run-n-guns like OutZone, or twin-stick shooters like Isaac, to be shmups. I don't. Auto-scrolling is required, IMO. Also, "shmup" isn't an acronym. Please stop capitalizing it, that's annoying. Ofecks fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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It stands for Special Heavy Machine Ultra Pilot, maybe learn.
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I'll allow for some twin stick shooters and no auto-scrolling but if it has gravity, it isn't a shmup 
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Ineptitude posted:Thanks! Wishlisted several of these. Region locking isn’t a thing!! The switch is super easy you can literally make a JP account and even use foreign credit cards to buy stuff and it just works. The only downside is you start getting all sorts of emails and switch notifications in Japanese as well lol I probably buy more switch games than PS/XBOX because they actually take my credit card. The switch is an amazing machine for playing old stuff handheld from around the world Edit: Capcom arcade is a collection of games “wrapped” inside one yeah its a bit odd. You open the game and it has like 50 games inside you individually buy
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Ineptitude posted:I guess SHMUP doesn't have an official definition but this doesn't feel like one to me, though i can't really explain why. *Course I'd say Black Bird is definitely a shmup, and in terms of forced progression it's pretty loose but arguably there in a sense. quote:What is this? Like an app that has games inside it?
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Thanks for the recommendations! I ended up buying Crimson Clover as it looked the most flashy. Kinda regret that as it isnt just hard but there are several bullet patterns that i don‘t understand how i can dodge. Its fun to just chain continues and shoot millions of enemies though. I guess i am too old to 1cc these games now. Why are there no recommendations for the Gradius and R-Type games? Is this secretly the bullet hell thread?
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Ineptitude posted:Why are there no recommendations for the Gradius and R-Type games? Is this secretly the bullet hell thread? There aren't nearly as many new games made in that style nowadays and they typically scratch a different itch to vertical/bulet hell games, so liking one style doesn't guarantee you'll like the other. Natsuki Chronicles and Andro Dunos 2 are some good new-ish games in that vein, off the top of my head. R-Type 2's not bad either, but the ugliness of the game and technical issues on certain platforms might be a turnoff, and the really good levels are in the paid DLC. The developers are still updating the game pretty regularly, too.
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Gradius Gaiden is one of the best shmups ever made. I'll recommend that poo poo all day. You want to see a game dripping with the effort and love that went into it, go play Gaiden.
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Ineptitude posted:Why are there no recommendations for the Gradius and R-Type games? Is this secretly the bullet hell thread? Dariusburst CS is excellent if you're looking for one of those, but it's also a seven year game that's still priced at $50.
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Ineptitude posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Here are some really great tips that will instantly make you better at bullet hells. I'm a scrub and it improved my play immediately. Skip to 6:00 to get directly to movement tech and dodging: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mje1q66Zazo strongly recommend Danmaku Unlimited 3 for an easier start also reposting this because it is so good, here's a big list of Switch shmups on Deku Deals, there may be a cheap indie that suits your needs: https://www.dekudeals.com/lists/h9wbjf?sort=discount_amount beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 17, 2022 |
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Social Animal posted:Progear on the Capcom Arcade Stadium is only 99 cents on the US store right now. Fun horizontal Cave/Capcom game. I bought this and it kinda owns
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Ineptitude posted:Thanks for the recommendations! Novice Original 1cc is definitely beatable, at least it was for a shmup noob like me.
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Schwarzwald posted:Dariusburst CS is excellent if you're looking for one of those, but it's also a seven year game that's still priced at $50. Specifically Dariusburst CS? Theres a list of games on the wiki, are they different games or re-releases? I only have the Switch to play on; there is a game on switch called Dariusburst Another Chronicle EX+, im assuming it is a different game to CS? The wiki speaks of Dariusburst in singular form but also calls Another Chronicle a related arcade game.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I bought this and it kinda owns same and it is kicking my rear end. it has an unusual bullet canceling mechanic that goes like this: Bullets are cancelled by catching them in explosions created by enemies when they are destroyed. Rapid fire (basic) shots that kill enemies will convert nearby bullets to rings, which grant points. Every ring collected increases a counter in the lower left corner of the screen. When enemies are killed with the homing shot (focus fire), they convert bullets into gems. The higher the ring level (represented by an icon), the bigger the gem. Now, gems (NOT rings) can ALSO convert bullets into gems if they touch a bullet as they spawn. This can lead to cascades of bullet conversions under the right circumstances. It also means that larger gems = easier bullet conversions. The general cycle of scoring via rings/gems goes like this: Rapid shot (converts bullets to rings via explosions) -> Focus shot (sucks up rings and converts bullets to gems via explosions, potentially causing a cascade) -> Release focus shot (sucks up gems) -> repeat This means that good scoring is necessary for managing overall bullet density. Apparently a common tactic is to use large enemies to generate rings, then gems to manage large mob bullets. Also, bombs damage your score more than losing a life, because they gently caress up your ring/gem counter, which acts as a multiplier or something. Also you get a big score bonus when overfull with bombs. You'll see the bomb marker change when it happens. I've been grinding to make the 1.6 mil minimum to get on the scoreboards but the best I've managed in 900k by mid 2nd level 
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Ineptitude posted:Why are there no recommendations for the Gradius and R-Type games? Is this secretly the bullet hell thread? ...I'd say it's still hard but can't say I've put that much time into it either. I think it does have the same restart mechanic as those two games which doesn't help. Satazius is another one that used to be mentioned a good bit but never played it myself, iirc overall reception was good but vaguely recall some complaints about it too. THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I bought this and it kinda owns  . That's the one I played in MAME way back and was confused when I played it in CAS the first time and it seemed oddly quiet. Didn't realize the US version cut them out entirely until I looked it up.Ineptitude posted:Specifically Dariusburst CS? beer gas canister posted:Also, bombs damage your score more than losing a life, because they gently caress up your ring/gem counter, which acts as a multiplier or something. Also you get a big score bonus when overfull with bombs. You'll see the bomb marker change when it happens. I've been grinding to make the 1.6 mil minimum to get on the scoreboards but the best I've managed in 900k by mid 2nd level  While I do try to score, cause yeah there's a nice synergy of the scoring mechanic also being a key to survival, I figure at my level just surviving longer is usually gonna be worth more than the cost of a bomb.It was kicking my rear end last night, couldn't even pass stage 2 a bunch of the time, and the one time I did I think I ended up just under 1.6M. Back closer to the game came out I had a ridiculous run (at least by my standards, never being that good at the game) and ended up with something like 7.8M on the last stage. But I'm most proud of getting Rivet to max meters on one of the in between level score screens.
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If you can somehow swing a Japanese eshop account, I’d consider the Shark port collection. I enjoyed Flying Shark a ton, and I hear Fire Shark is just as good if not better, though it’s also fiendishly difficult.
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Apparently the Arcade Classics port of Progear has to the default difficulty set too high in the US version. I have to reset it every time I launch the game. quote:https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1474575#p1474575
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Ineptitude posted:Specifically Dariusburst CS? EDIT: STOP THE loving PRESSES INBACHI HAS BEEN DEFEATED I REPEAT INBACHI HAS BEEN DEFEATED Ten years after the release of Saidaioujou, the final step of Cave's ever-escalating ridiculous TLBs has actually been beaten at all with the actual amount of lives and bombs you're meant to have—the previous milestone reached was it being beaten with the settings of one more life than you'd have when reaching it normally, and one extra bomb per stock. KennyMan666 fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 17, 2022 |
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beer gas canister posted:Apparently the Arcade Classics port of Progear has to the default difficulty set too high in the US version. I have to reset it every time I launch the game. Just play the JP version it has the voices too. Glad people liking Progear, it's a very fun one and I love how the scoring system helps survival.
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KennyMan666 posted:The way I've come to understand it: DBACEX+ is the definitive home version of the arcade game, having some things in it that no other port has had to date. Chronicle Saviours, which is only on PS4 and Vita, does have Another Chronicle EX mode, and also has the console-only CS Mode, consisting of 186 separate stages. There's also DLC Mode, which you get by, well, buying DLC ships. So currently, there exists no version of Burst that has all content. Chronicle Saviours is also on Steam, which means you can run it on two screens if you have them.
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steam and not, to the best of my knowledge, switch, but I've got a soft spot for meglio and vulkaiser https://store.steampowered.com/app/437020/WITCHBOT_MEGLILO/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/349680/Supercharged_Robot_VULKAISER/
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KennyMan666 posted:The way I've come to understand it: DBACEX+ is the definitive home version of the arcade game, having some things in it that no other port has had to date. Chronicle Saviours, which is only on PS4 and Vita, does have Another Chronicle EX mode, and also has the console-only CS Mode, consisting of 186 separate stages. There's also DLC Mode, which you get by, well, buying DLC ships. So currently, there exists no version of Burst that has all content. Jaimers is so good. The little dance near the end was cute, too. I was excited as well.
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I saw that yesterday. I'm perplexed why he didn't post the entire run. Guessing it's because he uses savestates to practice and this footage is from a practice session.
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Ofecks posted:I saw that yesterday. I'm perplexed why he didn't post the entire run. Guessing it's because he uses savestates to practice and this footage is from a practice session. Yep basically. No one has defeated inbachi in an actual run yet but Sairyou and now Jaimers have done it in practice.
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