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Traditional poker, blackjack, and craps all have their own threads, but there's a bunch of other table games you might run into at any casino. Some examples I can find:
There's undoubtedly many more. Most of these games have rules specific to the casino or casino chain you're in. Many have a multi-casino progressive jackpot side-bet you can make in addition to main bets. Many of them heavily favor the house, or at least have sucker bets that heavily favor the house. Do you play any of these games? Want to talk about one in particular? Want to discuss the rules, odds, or best strategy? Last time I was in a casino, I found the handful of low limit blackjack tables to be packed and couldn't get a seat, but there were plenty of seats available at the other table games... if there's one or two with decent odds or a fun mechanic, why not give them a try? The answer is because you'll lose all your money, of course, but that's mostly true of all casino games! So no shaming people for their gambling degeneracy, let's just talk about table games yup.
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Last weekend I was at South Lake Tahoe Harrah's and played some Ultimate Texas Hold'Em with my buddy. Ultimate Texas Hold'Em is a table game in which players play only against the dealer, as in blackjack. A single 52-card poker deck is used, and the whole deck is shuffled after each game. The advertised minimum bet (say, $10) is the minimum for the each of the blind and ante bet circles; your ante is returned if the dealer fails to make at least a pair (called "opening"), but otherwise it's treated like part of your whole bet mostly, so it's better to think of it as a game with a minimum equal to twice what is advertised which sometimes results in a refund of half your bet. After initial bets are placed, the dealer deals five community cards face down, two cards to each player, and two cards to himself face down. Players may show their cards to one another. Players will have three opportunities to increase their bets:
The dealer then shows his cards. Everyone makes their best five-card poker hand. Payouts vary but your goal is to make a good hand and also to beat the dealer, to get maximum payout. In addition to the ante and blind bet (which must be for the same amount of chips), there's one or two additional side-bets you can make:
Your blind bet pays out if you win vs. the dealer, but the scale it pays out at is shown at the table. For example, pre:PLAYER HAND PAYS Royal flush 500 to 1 Straight flush 50 to 1 Four of a kind 10 to 1 Full house 3 to 1 Flush 3 to 2 Straight 1 to 1 All other Push Wizard of Odds has a page analyzing the odds of winning for Ultimate Texas Hold'Em. I found the game to be entertaining and sort of a relaxed poker-ish experience. I only ever played the blind and ante bets, $20 a hand, and lost $125 over the course of a couple of hours' play. My friend next to me always played blind, ante, and trips ($10 each) plus the progressive, so $35 a hand. He had a long string of bad luck, winning no pots for at least 15 hands, and blew through something close to a grand in about two hours. I kept suggesting to him to stop dumping cash into the sucker bet circles but he was hoping to win $100k so whatever, he's hopeless lol. One fun aspect was showing each other our hands, which sometimes mattered. E.g., knowing another player had one of my "outs" prior to seeing the community cards, lowered the value of my hand and sometimes led me to not raise when I otherwise might have. Another was the tendency of the whole table to win when the dealer's just trying to flip a superior kicker and fails to; in situations where that's likely, players all encouraged each other to stay in the hand - $10 to not fold, hoping the dealer won't flip a card higher than your highest card. The sense of camaraderie at the table as we all root against the dealer was quite similar to blackjack, but there's no hitting so no cases where another player is mad at you for "taking his card" or "taking a card that would have busted the dealer" or whatever. I would have preferred a game with a lower minimum, for sure. I sat down with $500 and was down about $300 at one point, could easily have wound up down a lot more with a little worse luck, so at least at that Harrah's on a thursday evening it was not very beginner-friendly. Anyone else played this game? Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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Jul 22, 2021 01:01
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If I'm gonna play a table game at the local casino, it'll usually be Ultimate Texas Hold'em (or blackjack). It's a bunch of fun and not the worst way to spend some time in there whilst waiting for a cash game table or the end of a tournament break
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I've played Ultimate Hold'em... felt like folding gives up too much money. sunken cost fallacy and all that... Pretty much the only table game I'll play is PaiGow Poker. 1. its slow, so it takes longer to bust 2. you usually push 3. it's fun? obviously one of the most common decisions you have to make is whether or not you split pairs. generally speaking, split pairs if one is JJ+, keep 22-TT pairs together, if you have an ace put two pair in the back if the pairs are smaller than jacks. keeps pairs if they're smaller than 7s in the back if you have a King... the first couple times i played i hadn't learned many of the rules yet and I had TT/99 with Axx left over. I think I wanted to go 99/TTAxx... splitting 9/10 here is borderline but house way is Ax/99TTx.. and basically she gave me an, "哎呀. 不對"... and told me house way was A high up front. so i kinda shrugged.. and set it to house way. she gets dealt 3 baby pairs. lol.. i was kinda annoyed that i listened to her... also she made fun of me for the rest of the session  but yeah playing paigow is a nice way to not lose too much money when i don't feel like playing poker.. then i get mad when i lose money because i probably should've been playing poker.
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Jul 23, 2021 18:44
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I played pai gow poker once but it's been so drat long I can't remember how the game is played. I do recall you are supposed to make a high and low hand, and you have to beat both of the dealer's hands to win, but lose to both of them to lose, so you frequently push, yup. I also recall liking that you can play with your cards face-up and can ask the dealer for advice, although of course the dealer's advice is... well, suspect, given where their loyalties lie, lol. But at least they can show you how to construct a high and low hand from what you got.Strong Sauce posted:I've played Ultimate Hold'em... felt like folding gives up too much money. sunken cost fallacy and all that... At the table I was playing at, I think I was the most-folding player. I was definitely the only player who was strictly sticking to the minimum starting bet ($10 + $10), although not everyone did the progressive bet. Seemed like pretty much everyone liked the trips bet. When we first sat down there was a severely drunk lady to my left who could not remember the basic procedure from one hand to the next (like, every time she'd try to raise preflop she had to be reminded that this was a 3x or 4x raise only); eventually someone sat down who looked young, got ID'd, and the drunk lady said she didn't even have her ID (nobody would ever ID her lol) and the dealer told her she was required to have her ID with her at the table, so she drunkely wandered off to go find her purse, which she had supposedly left at one of the casino bars. Lol. Anyway that lady aside, the other people we played seemed to be familiar with the game already, and I think they tended to throw in the minbet on the river unless they truly had garbage and only had hope to win by the dealer drawing worse than them. Another thing I think almost nobody was doing was using the opportunity of shared information (we can show eachother our hole cards) to calculate the dealer's odds. One lady on the far left didn't even routinely show her cards. There's no disadvantage to doing so, and yet people can be superstitious I guess? I was even saying stuff to the guy who replaced drunk lady on my left, like "oh OK he's got an ace, other dude's got an ace, dealer has 12 outs now, you're like 70% to win here" and he'd nod but the table wasn't picking up on this. I wonder if we all flagrantly did that enough, the floor would get mad about it? Dealer didn't seem to give a poo poo.
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Jul 23, 2021 19:50
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I am a huge fan of Pai Gow Poker-- I enjoy hanging out with crusty old Asian people, it has an illusion of strategy, and the combination of higher table limits and pushes mean you can feel like a high roller without many big losses. Not to mention that it seems to get me better free offers from casinos than anything else I play except for maybe big money video poker. After I got tired of serious holdem a few years back, it has probably been my biggest game. Mathematically, roulette is a complete sucker game, but if I am with friends I will throw down 10 dollars or whatever on a straight-up number just for the hell of it. I hit it twice in row once, too! It is the gambling equivalent of one of those blue Long Island Iced Teas. I have played three-card poker exactly once and won like $400 at 2 AM on a Tuesday. My one gambling superstition is to immediately start betting like a degenerate whenever some obscure new wave/punk song comes on the sound system. "Love Will Tear Us Apart" came on when I was heading up to my room, I sat down at three-card poker, immediately hit a bunch of straights with increasingly big bets and got up 10 minutes later. I'm pretty sure the three older Southern women sitting with me were nuns, or at least very devoted Catholics.
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Jul 24, 2021 04:25
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Leperflesh posted:I played pai gow poker once but it's been so drat long I can't remember how the game is played. I do recall you are supposed to make a high and low hand, and you have to beat both of the dealer's hands to win, but lose to both of them to lose, so you frequently push, yup. I also recall liking that you can play with your cards face-up and can ask the dealer for advice, although of course the dealer's advice is... well, suspect, given where their loyalties lie, lol. But at least they can show you how to construct a high and low hand from what you got. you're right about paigow.. but the dealer has no need to "cheat"you since they will win over the long run. they set your cards the house way, which is just a set of rules almost all casinos follow. when she told me to pair the 9/Ts with the Ax in the front it's because that's how she has to set her hand if she got that. two pair and A-high wins very often... but splitting 99/TT is also very strong. like in the end you're not gaining too much with that hand set either way. also i miswrote and said 3 baby pairs, it was 2 baby pairs and i think like Jacks or something. Would have pushed with 99/TTAxx. another thing is rules for the game vary between vegas and california, with additional variation between norcal/socal and the regular casinos vs indian casinos. vegas: A2345 2nd highest straight after A-high california: uhhh wtf? follow the rules vegas. vegas: 5% juice per winning hand california: $1 every hand win or lose. i think if the min bet is $5, the juice is $0.50 vegas: jokers, if we even put any in the deck anymore, are bugs and can only fill straights/flushes. otherwise it's just A-high california: jokers are wild babyyyy california also has strange rules about banking because in california you can't play card games against the house... you can also co-bank with the casino. and they allow your hand to be taken away if someone places a higher bet than you. meaning you place a $10 bet. someone comes and puts $20 next to yours. that person is now allowed to set the hand for both of you... i think indian casinos will follow more closely with vegas rules. quote:Another thing I think almost nobody was doing was using the opportunity of shared information (we can show eachother our hole cards) to calculate the dealer's odds. One lady on the far left didn't even routinely show her cards. There's no disadvantage to doing so, and yet people can be superstitious I guess? I was even saying stuff to the guy who replaced drunk lady on my left, like "oh OK he's got an ace, other dude's got an ace, dealer has 12 outs now, you're like 70% to win here" and he'd nod but the table wasn't picking up on this. I wonder if we all flagrantly did that enough, the floor would get mad about it? Dealer didn't seem to give a poo poo. speaking of Blackjack one of the biggest hands I lost was when some of the old PITR group was in Vegas for the WSOP back in... 2008? A small group of us went to South Point and we started playing some BJ. while the dealer was shuffling I thought I would "ball it up" and threw like $120 at the next hand. Well I get dealt 88. so I pay another 120 to split, got another 8 split that.. okay next 2 cards not an 8, but after that.. another 8, i ended up having to take money out of my wallet to pay for the bets.... the last 2 cards aren't 8s... but now two of the hands are prime double down hands so of course i place another 2 bets of 120 on them. basically ended up losing all but like one hand... that pushed. so i lost something like $600.. [forgive me if i gently caress up the ordering/set up. all i knew is i placed a big initial bet down, ended up having to grab more money from my wallet, and somehow ended up losing almost $600]
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Jul 24, 2021 05:42
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That's one of those textbook cases of bankroll management; effectively, you played a $120 hand which meant you needed to have like five grand or something in your bankroll for blackjack, to cover not just variance but the rare case where correct (max EV) play is to get several hundred bucks onto the table. When we sat down to play Ultimate Poker, I had $500 to risk and held myself to $20 per hand and still felt short-stacked the whole time.
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Jul 24, 2021 23:16
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I had a blackjack hand like that once, but I only started with a $15 bet, so at the end, I ended up with $90 on the table. Pai Gow Poker is often my jam for the same reasons posted earlier - lots of pushes, an interesting game, and a nice pace to it. Also, the extra pushes/time at the table make it feel less stupid to put money on the side bets. (Putting an extra $5 or whatever on the side for a hand of blackjack can add up really quick; the extra $5 fortune bet on Pai Gow doesn't come up as often, and even when you lose, pushing your $25 main bet and losing $5 on the side feels like a small win.) Also, the fortune bets with the Envy bonus are great. Now, you're not just rooting for good cards, but you want the person next to you to have a straight flush, too. Sometimes, if I have a lucky streak at another game, that'll become "my" game for a bit, much to my detriment. Let It Ride feels like it should be entertaining, but rarely is. I played a bunch of Mississippi Stud for a bit, too, as I had made a few hands in a row so I was gambling it up with house money. Three Card Poker is probably my substitute for blackjack (in that it's a really simple yes/no game that basically plays itself) that is slightly more entertaining, and gives that feeling of potentially getting a "big score". My favorite way to play 3 card is to look at the cards one at a time, and stop when I see something that is good enough to play. At least once, I had a 3 of a kind that I didn't know about because I stopped looking once I saw a pair.
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CellBlock posted:My favorite way to play 3 card is to look at the cards one at a time Yeah, I love squeezing the cards out one by one in Pai Gow. Most Pai Gow tables in Atlantic City are $25 a hand, and if I am gonna gamble that much per hand I want to get all the excitement out of it I can. Is players banking Pai Gow a thing anymore? A guy was doing it the last time I played (which is like 2 years ago now), but before that I hadn't seen anyone do it for years. I know that it's mathematically better, but it seems to ruin the "all of us against the dealer" thing that makes table games so much fun.
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Jul 27, 2021 06:32
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RapturesoftheDeep posted:Yeah, I love squeezing the cards out one by one in Pai Gow. Most Pai Gow tables in Atlantic City are $25 a hand, and if I am gonna gamble that much per hand I want to get all the excitement out of it I can. I remember it being more common in SoCal/Commerce since they are required to bank "separately" so people inevitably are given opportunities to bank. Now that I think about it I don't think I've done that in Vegas..
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Aug 5, 2021 23:51
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Heading out to Vegas in a few weeks with about a dozen people. Pai Gow Poker is pretty much the only table game I play. I agree with what the poster above said about it having an "illusion" of strategy to it--there's decisions to be made maybe 20% of the time? Otherwise there's a proper way to arrange the cards. And the slow pace, combined with all the pushes, means it takes a fair bit longer to effectively set my money on fire (and also means more free booze). I've played Blackjack twice in Vegas, and both times sucked. Too fast, people bitch at you if you make the "wrong" play because it'll gently caress them over or whatever. Pai Gow has the exact opposite vibe. Since most people most of the time wager enough on the fortune to get an envy button everyone's always happy for everyone else when they do well. Just a really fun, low-pressure game. I'm in Oklahoma where there are plenty of tribal (please don't say "Indian") casinos, but as far as I'm aware none have Pai Gow Poker. My buds and I would go up to Kansas Star just north of the OK-KS border a couple times a year as they have (had? heard they may be gone) two PGP tables. Also I feel it's good to have a healthy distance between home and a casino, don't want to make it too easy to scratch that itch. Judgy Fucker fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Oct 29, 2021 |
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Oct 29, 2021 19:46
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After playing face up Pai Gow there's no way I can go back to regular.
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Nov 30, 2021 20:17
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The SituAsian posted:After playing face up Pai Gow there's no way I can go back to regular. What makes it different? Among other things it seems like it would move more quickly and part of what I like about Pai Gow is that it's very leisurely.
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The SituAsian posted:After playing face up Pai Gow there's no way I can go back to regular. After having come back from Vegas I am 100% in agreement. There's a few advantages to face-up, but getting rid of the rake and the Goddamn quarters is #1 for me. Had a funny interaction with a dealer during the trip. It was in the morning, I was the only person at the FUPG table. Started talking with the dealer about college football, it was a friendly conversation but they kept their stoic dealer face up. Somehow face-up PG came up, and I mentioned "yeah, really happy to not deal with the quarters anymore." Dealer totally dropped the kayfabe, and very exasperatedly said "you think YOU'RE happy about no more quarters?" good stuff. RapturesoftheDeep posted:What makes it different? Among other things it seems like it would move more quickly and part of what I like about Pai Gow is that it's very leisurely. It does go faster, but not that much faster. Other than no rake, by seeing what the house has first you know whether to, for example, split pairs or not. Another difference is everyone pushes automatically if the house has Ace-high Pai Gow, which isn't necessarily a bad thing because 1) I tend to get king high or less PGs when the House is high card, and 2) you can still collect on the side bets.
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I think playing 2/4 limit absolutely drunk with like a few hundred dollars is the best table game, although I do miss crazy degen games that my local used to have every so often. Two card poker (plays like three card, but obviously different bonuses), catch a wave where you guess high and low, Caribbean draw poker, etc. Stupid random table games seemed to have disappeared, I used to love trying new ones.
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I wonder if casinos are waiting for full post-covid traffic levels to return before they try "innovating" new table games. When I was in Harrah's lake tahoe last summer, they had less than a third of their table games manned, and in that environment, there's not much incentive to take a risk with a new game.
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At my local casino, there's a few games (Caribbean stud and 4 card poker) that the dealers and pit bosses tell me that they are more or less stuck with until the progressive jackpots on them, which are in the high 5 figures, finally hit. No one likes to play them because they're slower than blackjack and you generally win or break even less often than with 3 card poker or ultimate texas hold-em. And no one likes to deal them because you get way less tips than the other aforementioned games for all those same reasons. They just sit there empty, taking up valuable space, like 90 percent of the time I've been there in the last 5 years.
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Ultimate Hold Em is a fun game with very favorable house edge, but when you play it properly it can wipe out your bankroll. Correct strategy involves making more raises than most players do, and hands you raise have an exposure of 6 or 7x the minimum bet depending on if you do trips or not. This means losing streaks are absolutely brutal- five bad beats on raising hands in a row (which will absolutely happen) wipes out at least 35x the minimum bet. The only thing I play that's comparable in terms of exposure is craps played with pass/come bets at max odds, and unlike craps, (where you can just place 6/8 if you want a fun low-risk game with decent odds) , you can't really play Ultimate Hold Em at both good house edge and low exposure. The good news is that it's also very sensitive to winning streaks (I've had runs in this game where my bankroll is like a sine wave) but I absolutely recommend a big bankroll if you're going to play for maximum ev. 50-60x the minimum bet at minimum and even 100x the minimum bet isn't excessive. Trips isn't that bad of a bet (make sure it has a good pay table for flush/full house, 9/7 is a good one, and run like hell from the ones which give you 20x instead of 30x for quads), you're basically exchanging a small increase in house edge for volatility but I find that the volatility makes the game more enjoyable. Where it really gets people is the guys who only play for the trips bet and never raise anything less than two pairs on the flop. A great deal of the casino's advantage in this game comes from how many players aren't willing to raise hands like K/8 or A/4 offsuit. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Apr 13, 2022 17:37
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That sounds right, and I'd re-emphasize that despite what it says on the sign, the minbet is $20, not $10. If you're playing trips, it's $30.
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Also, Idk if people have gotten smarter at the game, but I remember people will still act like you're a nutcase for constantly putting $40 raises down and you'll feel badass (until you lose six A/8 raises in a row) E) also roulette, even 00 is underrated. yeah the house edge sucks but it's a relatively slow game, so your loss per hour isn't bad, it has a fun amount of volatility depending on how you play it, and it's the classiest casino game. I just chill, make some minimum bets and take in the atmosphere, it's absolutely my favorite table game to enjoy drinks at. baccarat is "classy" for people who like to call themselves "classy". Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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Apr 13, 2022 17:47
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I love craps, but I don't have the BR to play the $15 games that seem to be the minimum everywhere. I play the craps machine with the bouncing dice, but my lizard brain can't stop thinking it's rigged when the dice happen to land on a number and bounce around without changing. Also trying to talk the floor out of a handpay when I bet 500 and win 1000 for a total payout of 1500 is not actually a win over 1200 you morons. Only on Ultimate, you can generally bet less then the minimum on trips. Usually I would play 10 base with 5 on it. Occasionally you get a hardass pit boss who will say all bets must be the minimum, but it tends to be rare. I had the dealer put both a straight flush and quads on the board in a session, and that was fairly cool, although here was some friction when people who folded were trying to fight for their trips bets back (the rules are ambiguous and they were not trained on this). Eventually, they go their money, but most places will put your cards under the trip bet when you fold, no?
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Apr 13, 2022 18:51
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It depends on the house but most places I've seen pay out trips on a fold (at least my local native casinos do). I think not doing so raises the house edge of trips to unacceptable levels for me . Interestingly I've heard that a lot of houses still don't really care that much about collusion in ultimate so you can get even better odds if you have a friend and show your holecards discreetly.
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Apr 13, 2022 18:55
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At my local, unless you are playing entirely hands up, they have absolutely no issue with people just yelling out what their hole cards are, and in fact that happens often, although you'll get some moron who thinks he's playing for real and will be covering his cards like he is at the WSOP.
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Apr 13, 2022 19:14
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At the table I played, trips bet pays out irrespective of whether you beat or didn't beat the dealer with your main hand, but I'm thinking right now that you still had to stay through showdown, e.g. you don't get the benefit of trips in the community cards if you folded. I don't recall if that situation ever actually arose while I played though. It might be a house rule that varies from one house to another. I don't immediately see a reference that says explicitly that you do or don't auto-lose that bet if you fold. That wizardofodds page gives he house edge on four different trips payout tables, ranging from -0.009 to -0.06. That's not bad, but of course you are increasing your bet per hand by a significant factor so you need a bigger bankroll, and I believe you're also compounding your volatility. I never put money on the trips circle when I played, I didn't know what the odds would be and just assumed it was another sucker bet like most table game side bets are. LorneReams posted:At my local, unless you are playing entirely hands up, they have absolutely no issue with people just yelling out what their hole cards are, and in fact that happens often, although you'll get some moron who thinks he's playing for real and will be covering his cards like he is at the WSOP. That was absolutely the case for me too: I tried to explain to a couple of people that it was to our advantage to know if someone else was holding "one of our outs" but one lady at the end politely refused to pay attention or acknowledge what I said and after some turnover at the table I decided I might get in trouble with the house if I kept at it. But I still announced my cards whenever it might be relevant and my buddy helped me out, a couple of other people asked the dealer what to do with certain hands, it was very much like at a pai gow table although a step short of actually letting the dealer play for you. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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It's less bad than it seems too since, unless I'm calculating it wrong, trips is going to be a portion of your minimum bet assuming you always play it. It's lower EV but really a matter of taste unless it's really bad. The tables I play use a -0.03 edge but that's on 1/3 the minimum bet, and really I just have more fun with trips. (it's fun volatility, unlike the guys who calculate when a progressive hits +EV and try to grind it out) Also maximum EV play is raising aggressively and never playing trips which is going to get the table looking at you like you're a space alien, which can also be fun. Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 13, 2022 |
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LorneReams posted:I love craps, but I don't have the BR to play the $15 games that seem to be the minimum everywhere. I play the craps machine with the bouncing dice, but my lizard brain can't stop thinking it's rigged when the dice happen to land on a number and bounce around without changing. Also trying to talk the floor out of a handpay when I bet 500 and win 1000 for a total payout of 1500 is not actually a win over 1200 you morons. I love craps too but I can only play for so long with "advantage" strategy of three points with maximum odds before I start sweating bullets. Last time I went I ended up +20% which I'll take any day but the exposure when you've got a pass line bet and two come bets with like 12x the minimum bet on odds is goddamn scary.
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Mainly I play craps but if anyone wants to know about sic bo or pai gow tiles I’ve played quite a bit.
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I miss 100x 2 dollar craps. Wonder why those places went bankrupt
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covid probably or inflation maybe it's just inflation, I was fondly remembering $3 blackjack recently and then realized that was in 2000, three bucks 22 years later is now $5.16. That's why the minimum at blackjack is now... ten... uh, ten dollars, is that right?
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Jul 29, 2022 00:36
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Leperflesh posted:covid probably When I was in Vegas in March you could find a couple $10 tables on south strip, yeah. But usually in the morning when the floors were mostly empty. By the time everyone shrugs off last night's hangover and wanders downstairs they go up to $15. Never saw a $10 Pai Gow table this time, think they may be extinct.
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Aug 1, 2022 15:40
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TipTow posted:When I was in Vegas in March you could find a couple $10 tables on south strip, yeah. But usually in the morning when the floors were mostly empty. By the time everyone shrugs off last night's hangover and wanders downstairs they go up to $15. I generally see Pai Gow at $25, which I'm ok with in general, but I like when they go down to $15 or $20, because the 5% commission on a $20 bet is $1, and I don't have to gently caress with quarters.
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CellBlock posted:I generally see Pai Gow at $25, which I'm ok with in general, but I like when they go down to $15 or $20, because the 5% commission on a $20 bet is $1, and I don't have to gently caress with quarters. When I was there in March all I saw were face-up PG tables, no rake/quarters. My buds and I pretty much only frequent Caesar's properties and the Cosmo, so I have no idea what things are like outside of that area. Mins I saw were usually $20, $25 when really busy. But this was all six months ago, so 
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Yeah unquestionable though, that the minimum cost to play at table games has more than doubled in the last 20 years, even accounting for inflation. I don't think that's due to higher labor costs either. I suspect it's competition in profitability per square foot compared to slots.
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My local just dropped two new BJ games with various modifiers. Free Bet Blackjack: Advantage Any split or double is free (double on 9 10 or 11 only), up to 4 splits Disadvantage push 22 (dealer doesn't break on 22, and is an automatic push) Three Color Blackjack: Advantage Dealer down card will be one of three colors representing ranges (2-5, 6-9, 10-A) Disadvantage push 22 (dealer doesn't break on 22, and is an automatic push) BJ 6/5 (ugg) Free bet blackjack was actually fun, I had 4 splits a few times and that adds a lot of free bets. Also, always doubling on 10 or 11 when you have huge bets for free is nice. I also got the dealer to refund bust bets when the dealer hit 22 (as it's a push), but the floor corrected him after a couple of hours. The other not so much, although I hit on 19 and got 21 a couple of times against a 20. Both games had 5$ limits and were empty as it seemed people couldn't wrap their heads around it.
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LorneReams posted:My local just dropped two new BJ games with various modifiers. https://wizardofodds.com/games/free-bet-blackjack/ house edge 1%, ok... not terrible. I think you had odds in your favor when you were getting the dealer to refund you on 22s. I can't find anything on three color blackjack though, weird. When you say you hit on 19 there, the upcard is showing 9 and the dealer down was the (10 or A) card, and it gets interpreted as an ace right? Equal number of the color cards?
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Aug 2, 2022 07:28
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Baddog posted:https://wizardofodds.com/games/free-bet-blackjack/ The back of the card is colored to show it's value range, green for 2-5, yellow for 6-9, and red for 10,J,Q,K, or A. The dealer had a ten up with a down card with a red back which meant since he didn't flip immediately with blackjack, is obviously a 20. I had 19, standing is a loss, so you hit.
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Aug 2, 2022 17:58
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LorneReams posted:The back of the card is colored to show it's value range, green for 2-5, yellow for 6-9, and red for 10,J,Q,K, or A. Ohhhh I completely misunderstood. I thought they had like three uno cards they would flip, and name the value. Man, that game actually sounds kind of cool. They are giving you a lot more information, and you end up with quite a few more double/split opportunities (or like your scenario, more chance to save a bet). 6-5 is a massive negative to overcome tho. You mind saying what casino it is?
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Aug 2, 2022 19:49
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Foxwoods in CT.
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i'm confused. how can the dealer's card be marked.. you're sharing the same shoe right? does that mean all cards are marked.. or? i thought you were talking about some kinda machine until you mentioned the dealer having to correct pushed hands.
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