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3 zelda games down and i am coming to the hot-take conclusion that ganon is a working class hero and the royal family of hyrule are just jackasses who would rather burn their kingdom down than let their precious crown go the hyrule royal family has a giant creepy dungeon crypt. they rule in perpetual unquestioned and absolutist monarchy in the 'bad' futures where ganon rules, plants still grow and people are still going about their days in some places, meaning ganon's victory is not existential the royal family flooded the world with not-quite-water magic that can't even support fish and destroyed 95% of land to 'stop' him, which they then followed by making permanent. this also mutated several species and shrunk the population well below that required for genetic diversity and killed off most animal species. all ganon wanted was to build on his resentment that the desert he was raised in sucked rear end and that hyrule hoarded all the arable land and didn't share. my ultimate conclusion is that link is actually a manipulated force for the status quo and ganon is Antifa E: I have proof that link is a nazi: 
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Typical antisocialist tripe dressed in revolutionary terminology, that it would actually be good to let this particular dude be a ruthless dictator because he belongs to this or that group. No mods no masters
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Aug 12, 2022 10:09
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who, specifically, has ganon ever harmed (who's not a member of a royal family)
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Aug 12, 2022 10:11
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He killed like every human in the golden realm in Link to the Past, and the background crowd people in the hyrule market all got turned into zombies and poo poo. He also never did anything good, I mean monarchy isn't great but it's a lot better than organising the world into a demon/undead infested wasteland set up to suck the dick of the dude who got all the pieces of the triforce.
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Aug 12, 2022 10:14
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SRQ posted:E: I have proof that link is a nazi: I see a Star Wars box set in that pic, are you one of the people who think the Empire is cool and good too?
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Aug 12, 2022 10:26
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Mooey Cow posted:Typical antisocialist tripe dressed in revolutionary terminology, that it would actually be good to let this particular dude be a ruthless dictator because he belongs to this or that group. No mods no masters at what point does he rule as a dictator? in oot he just lives in a castle and has good security. in windwaker he does some kidnapping but that's hardly a good reason to destroy 95% of the landmass of the planet. gay frog chemicals posted:He killed like every human in the golden realm in Link to the Past, and the background crowd people in the hyrule market all got turned into zombies and poo poo. He also never did anything good, I mean monarchy isn't great but it's a lot better than organising the world into a demon/undead infested wasteland set up to suck the dick of the dude who got all the pieces of the triforce. haven't played the former, in the latter i dunno just leave, he clearly just wanted the castle and surrounding area. there's even a successful horse stable like half a kilometer* away. *i realize the scale is for gameplay reasons.
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Aug 12, 2022 10:26
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Yaldabaoth posted:I see a Star Wars box set in that pic, are you one of the people who think the Empire is cool and good too? my only star wars hot take is that the jedi were shitters. palpatine was clearly fasc and his only moral victory was because he had the decency to let people kill him twice.
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Aug 12, 2022 10:27
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gay frog chemicals posted:He killed like every human in the golden realm in Link to the Past, and the background crowd people in the hyrule market all got turned into zombies and poo poo. He also never did anything good, I mean monarchy isn't great but it's a lot better than organising the world into a demon/undead infested wasteland set up to suck the dick of the dude who got all the pieces of the triforce. there wasn't anyone in the golden realm. the point was that it'd morph to reflect the heart of whoever gained access to it, and as it judged ganon as evil it turned into its vision of evil, i.e. densely populated with very few golf courses the redeads in hyrule town may have just moved in there, as everyone buggered off to kakariko village once an ethnic minority (gerudo) moved into the castle
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Aug 12, 2022 10:33
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I just remember when my brother paused his game to let me see the destruction of Ganon on N64.
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Aug 12, 2022 10:38
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the man would rather turn into a pig (cop) at the end than let link have the loving castle and princess for the moment while he regroups. what kind of working man hero pulls that stunt, huh op?
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Aug 12, 2022 11:46
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SRQ posted:at what point does he rule as a dictator? in oot he just lives in a castle and has good security. They stop him before he gets to rule, except when they don't in the backstories and the whole world turns to poo poo. In Oot the gorons tried to rise up against him and he sent the whole race into the volcano to be eaten by the dragon, so he's a genocidal dictator too. Before that he also hosed up their food supply which left them all starving. He also froze all of Zora's Domain which probly wasn't too good for their health so that's genocide #2 in just one game.
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Aug 12, 2022 12:04
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he also murdered link's treedad with that curse
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Aug 12, 2022 12:08
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I misread this as "qanon is actually the good guy" so I came in here ready to roast some chuds, but now I see it's another video game thread
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Aug 12, 2022 12:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFmrzRUojS0
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Aug 12, 2022 12:34
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Isn’t one of Ganon’s motivations to strike at the royal family and their allies because his own people were forced to scrape out a living in the desert?
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Aug 12, 2022 12:48
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Ganon turned down a life of getting endlessly hosed by a harem of mini giantess warrior women to pursue a career in politics which should tell you everything you need to know about his priorities.
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Aug 12, 2022 12:51
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Isn’t one of Ganon’s motivations to strike at the royal family and their allies because his own people were forced to scrape out a living in the desert? Yet when Ganon achieves absolute power he does fuckall to help them, which suggests his "revenge" on their behalf is pretextual at best.
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Aug 12, 2022 12:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuTvz0yBoFE
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Aug 12, 2022 13:15
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Applewhite posted:Ganon turned down a life of getting endlessly hosed by a harem of mini giantess warrior women to pursue a career in politics which should tell you everything you need to know about his priorities. He would be the kind of politician who wears a bow tie.
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Aug 12, 2022 13:22
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I’m playing through Breath of the Wild for the first time (just recently got a Switch) and it’s like, really hard? Idk I’ve never played a Zelda game so maybe they’re all like that. Either way it looks pretty so I’m gonna try and power through.
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Aug 12, 2022 13:33
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If i was an honest trader, or home owner, and some hodded hooligan blew my door from its frame, smashed my inventory and stole all my money, id probably be pretty pro-ganon too and support the local darknut association.
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Aug 12, 2022 13:39
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a peck of pickled peckers posted:I’m playing through Breath of the Wild for the first time (just recently got a Switch) and it’s like, really hard? Idk I’ve never played a Zelda game so maybe they’re all like that. Either way it looks pretty so I’m gonna try and power through. If you're still on the plateau, I see how it could be more challenging than you expected Soon enough you will be mighty!
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Aug 12, 2022 13:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLQ_h_LaqA
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Aug 12, 2022 13:46
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I've only played the one where you have to wake up the gigantic magic space whale.
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Aug 12, 2022 13:48
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Ganon is afforded his position among the Gerudo as king due to the circumstances of his birth, it's hard to say how much authority those actually gives him but he's able to hold court with the king of hyrule and influence the nobility the to a certain degree. When Ganon does seize power in totality, which he is able to do in OoT, he loving destroys everything and unleashes a bunch of evil across the land. He imprisons the Gorons in stone and the Zora in ice. He turns Hyrule Market into an open air graveyard. Even in the past of that game he spends his time infecting community leaders with parasites and antagonizing native people with curses. He is attempting to upend the monarchies of the land but only for his own self-enrichment- even his own people, who are bound by the customs of their lands to worship him as a king, are used as pawns and freely sacrificed. The only real 'working class' behavior that Ganon does, at least in OoT, is that after he seizes power he kicks Talon out of lon lon ranch and puts his indentured servant, Ingo, in charge, who actually runs the ranch with a sense of competency and pride.
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Aug 12, 2022 13:49
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Gannon is pretty much explicitly, cartoonishly evil But that doesn't make monarchy good
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Aug 12, 2022 13:49
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The Bloop posted:If you're still on the plateau, I see how it could be more challenging than you expected I don’t think I’m still on the starting plateau…I just tamed my first horse and got to some village. I feel decidedly very un-mighty, with my rag clothing and lovely weapons that break after a few hits. But like I said, it’s a very pretty game and I’m a sucker for open worlds, so I’m gonna stick with it for awhile.
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Aug 12, 2022 14:16
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why is he called link? he should be called zelda imo
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Aug 12, 2022 14:40
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Ugly people can't be good, sorry. Thats just the way things are.
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Aug 12, 2022 14:45
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cool star wars box set dork
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Aug 12, 2022 14:56
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Ganon overthrows the monarchy and then proceeds to just install himself as King and do jack poo poo. In Ocarina of Time he actively makes things worse by imprisoning Gorons and freezing the Zora. He's the most sympathetic in Wind Waker but he's still kidnapping people and his ultimate goal is revenge. He's kind of like the Andrew Yang of Hylian villains - he says he wants to fix things but his ultimate plan is cloudy at best.
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Aug 12, 2022 14:56
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ok i read your post and you are kinda right. link fights for the royal family. and royalty is always bad and should be destroyed. ganon also seems like a bad guy though. for one, his name is ganon. If you worked with a guy named Ganon, would you think he's a "good guy"? certainly not.
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Aug 12, 2022 15:16
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I don't think a good guy would be menacingly playing pipe organ with kidnapped girl in a crystal.
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Aug 12, 2022 15:17
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in oot ganon has a perfectly good castle to live in, but instead he builds a new one and surrounds it with lava. is this the excess of a dictator or is this job creation? who's to say really
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Material conditions have not evolved enough in the land of hyrule for the emergence of a 'working class' and instead life is divided by the peasantry, gentry, and nobility. There is a clerical class but it seems to be limited to select sages. In this essay I will be applying Marxist theory to the Nintendo series 'The Legend of Zelda,' in which I
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GIRL BRAINS posted:Material conditions have not evolved enough in the land of hyrule for the emergence of a 'working class' and instead life is divided by the peasantry, gentry, and nobility. There is a clerical class but it seems to be limited to select sages. In this essay I will be applying Marxist theory to the Nintendo series 'The Legend of Zelda,' in which I your post cut off abruptly Please post the rest I am ready to subscribe
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Aug 12, 2022 16:00
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I wasn’t the only goon here that would get spooked by the game over screen in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, was I? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GxARm_QiCo
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Aug 12, 2022 16:09
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Is he actually qanon?? Think about it. ganon. qanon. Think about it!!
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Aug 12, 2022 16:18
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link u gotta stop qanon ......
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Aug 12, 2022 16:21
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This is the Triforce of Wisdom, Link. The evil wizard qanon has the Triforce of Bullshit.
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