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Xiahou Dun posted:Because he's Stephen King and that's just what he do. That's like asking why everything is set in Maine and the protagonist is a horror writer with a substance abuse problem who got hit by a van. You're surprised a book set in northeast America in the 50's and 80's has racial slurs?
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Franchescanado posted:You're surprised a book set in northeast America in the 50's and 80's has racial slurs? I'm surprised it has racial slurs I've never heard before.
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Aug 17, 2022 18:18
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Aug 17, 2022 22:43
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shoulda read The Tommyknockers instead smdh
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MrMojok posted:Something Henry Bowers said? There’s a whole chapter intro from Stan Uris’s wife about how Jewish she is where she rattles them off. My eyes eventually glazed over because it goes on and on. Also one of Richie’s Voices is pretty much blackface sans face-paint. If you thought that part of the Dark Tower was rough, hoo boy. A lot I kind of expected just cause, yeah, coked up 80’s King doing a 50’s thing, but I was not prepared for the sheer amount and how often it’s not about the characters or the plot, it’s just the third person narration adding it in.
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Aug 17, 2022 22:57
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The (otherwise very very good) narrator of the audiobook really commits to Richie's Voices
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Aug 17, 2022 23:54
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High Warlord Zog posted:The (otherwise very very good) narrator of the audiobook really commits to Richie's Voices Sweet Jesus weeping on the cross.
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Ceramic Shot posted:I also enjoyed it a lot. I really enjoyed The Lesser Dead. A really interesting version of vampires. The Necromancer's House was also strong.
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Aug 18, 2022 05:24
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I’m going to continue remembering It as a great book and not spoil my memory rereading It
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Aug 18, 2022 12:40
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King can be awkward and outright cringy with a whole variety of topics, often anything out of his own experiences (if he's writing people who aren't white/dudes/straight/etc) and sometimes it's like a perfect storm of poo poo ala "Dedication".
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Aug 18, 2022 14:42
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It is probably due to my age but I though King's voice in IT was dead-on. I didn't grow up in Maine but I drat sure grew up around people that were just like this.
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Aug 18, 2022 14:52
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MrMojok posted:It is probably due to my age but I though King's voice in IT was dead-on. I didn't grow up in Maine but I drat sure grew up around people that were just like this. same, lived in small town alabama first 26 years of my life
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Speaking of beloved horror authors: https://twitter.com/MrHolness/status/1559829545519300609 I'm cautiously curious about this one. Darkplace was genius but I'm not sure how well Idiot Stephen Koontz will translate into actual prose. The excerpts he read in the show were hilarious but a few hundred pages of that could just end up tiring.
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Yeah, a lot of the best gags in Darkplace were completely dependant on the TV show format. Cautious curiosity sounds about right.
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Matt Holness has written a couple of legit horror short stories so he's not a neophyte to the world of letters
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Remember I am selling: Get something you've been wanting for a long time!  edit: sold a few! escape artist fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Aug 22, 2022 |
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so I just finished Mapping the Interior by SGJ. It was my fourth book by him, I think it was my second favorite though. A quick read, short novella, even a little King-esque, but man I love his insights into the indigenous psyche. He's so special.
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Finished The Hellbound Heart last night, which was my first time reading Clive Barker, and I enjoyed it pretty well! All I knew about it going in was some cultural osmosis about Hellraiser, so I was pleasantly surprised by how sparingly the Cenobites were used here, and particularly how mundane their speech patterns were -- there's something much more unnerving about their just talking to humans in an almost casual tone, and asking things like "what city is this?", instead of being full-tilt Eldritch. Could have probably done without the "female character becomes romantically obsessed after joyless dubiously-consensual sex" trope -- if we have to keep doing this, can the sex at least be really good? -- but y'know, gotta get the plot going somehow.
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Antivehicular posted:Could have probably done without the "female character becomes romantically obsessed after joyless dubiously-consensual sex" trope -- if we have to keep doing this, can the sex at least be really good? That’s the part that always keeps me from really liking Barker. He’s pretty okay, fine to decent at prose, has some appropriately spoopy ideas but he’s always gotta cram in these sex takes that are written like an 11 year old boy was also just the worst dom ever. I’ll be just getting kind of into his stuff and then BAM! blood tits!
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anyone ITT have thoughts on Richard Matheson's short stories? there is a Penguin edition I am interested in, 'The Best of Richard Matheson'. one story I want to read in particular is Duel because in my experience driving has gotten even more on edge during the pandemic/inflation, plus I've done plenty of road trips where you see lots of strange things on the road and sometimes it does feel like a driver is fixated on you and holds a grudge against you for the most minor things. full disclosure: I am torn between this author or the Penguin collection of short stories by A. Blackwood. though I kind of want both 
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:anyone ITT have thoughts on Richard Matheson's short stories? Get both?
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Aug 24, 2022 19:40
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:anyone ITT have thoughts on Richard Matheson's short stories? Blackwood is public domain, so if it's just the stories you can get that for free. But if you want a nice pretty book (which, yeah, fair) the answer is clearly both.
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Aug 24, 2022 19:47
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I recently got Penguin's The Lottery and Other Stories and Call of Cthulhu and other Weird Tales. so I should get *two* more? in my heart I know the answer is yes
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You're asking a book thread on a nerd forum if you should get books. You know in your heart of hearts that you want books and just want permission, so I give it to you. Go forth and buy all the books. Be free!
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Matheson wrote pretty much all the best Twilight Zone episodes so if you enjoy that, you'll enjoy him
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It's been a while since I read Matheson's short work but I recall it being great, so I say go for it.
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Returning to Barker: I hope the new movie leans more on the book description of the cenobites. The classic ones are an iconic design, sure, but I'd like to see them covered in ash and golden jewels like they are in the book, with Pinhead's nails crowned with different color gems.
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I just finished a book called Summer Sons and while I didn't really like the ending I would love to find more gay gothic horror if anyone has any recommendations.
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that seems like the sort of thing Valancourt Books pubs scads of, but I don’t have any titles off the top of my head
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Antivehicular posted:Finished The Hellbound Heart last night, which was my first time reading Clive Barker, and I enjoyed it pretty well! All I knew about it going in was some cultural osmosis about Hellraiser, so I was pleasantly surprised by how sparingly the Cenobites were used here, and particularly how mundane their speech patterns were -- there's something much more unnerving about their just talking to humans in an almost casual tone, and asking things like "what city is this?", instead of being full-tilt Eldritch. Could have probably done without the "female character becomes romantically obsessed after joyless dubiously-consensual sex" trope -- if we have to keep doing this, can the sex at least be really good? -- but y'know, gotta get the plot going somehow. Have you read The Damnation Game by Barker? If not give that a go as well. I think I enjoy it more than The Hellbound Heart.
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newts posted:John Connolly’s Charlie Parker series? Not strictly horror, I suppose, but very dark supernatural goings-on. I know this is a post from last month, but if I enjoyed his Nocturnes books and The Book of Lost Things immensely, does his Charlie Parker series have the same...I don't know, "air" or voice? I liked the story with his character in Nocturnes at least!
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Just noticed from my wishlist that Those Across the River by Christopher Buehlman is only $1.99 on kindle today! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052RHBGC/ref=docs-os-doi_0
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:Just noticed from my wishlist that Those Across the River by Christopher Buehlman is only $1.99 on kindle today! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052RHBGC/ref=docs-os-doi_0 I heard his other stuff doesn't touch between two fires, like nowhere close, is that true? I might pick this up if it's good but I'm worried I'm expecting another two fires and will be let down
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sephiRoth IRA posted:I heard his other stuff doesn't touch between two fires, like nowhere close, is that true? I might pick this up if it's good but I'm worried I'm expecting another two fires and will be let down I'm honestly not sure. I've heard mixed things about TATR, which is his first novel, but I love Southern Gothics enough to want to give it a try. BTF is definitely a masterpiece.
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sephiRoth IRA posted:I heard his other stuff doesn't touch between two fires, like nowhere close, is that true? I might pick this up if it's good but I'm worried I'm expecting another two fires and will be let down
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What’s the consensus on Christopher Moore? I read Practical Demonkeeping like 20 years ago and remembered really liking it, but I just read Bite Me and kind of hated it. The story itself wasn’t too bad though, it was just the main character that I really hated so other than her narrative bits I liked it ok.
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PsychedelicWarlord posted:I'm honestly not sure. I've heard mixed things about TATR, which is his first novel, but I love Southern Gothics enough to want to give it a try. BTF is definitely a masterpiece. TATR is Southern Gothic as all hell. I've liked everything I've read of Buehlman's : which is everything. Between Two Fires is in a genre by itself, or at least if that genre has a name I'd like to know it so I can read everything in it. So it stands out sui generis in a way that his other, more typical horror books do not.
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Opopanax posted:What’s the consensus on Christopher Moore? I read Practical Demonkeeping like 20 years ago and remembered really liking it, but I just read Bite Me and kind of hated it. The story itself wasn’t too bad though, it was just the main character that I really hated so other than her narrative bits I liked it ok. I did not like bite me. I liked bits of it, but it was super horny (Moore seems to be) and it didn't have nearly enough warmth (hah) for a love story. I have a huge soft spot for the stupidest angel, however, which despite having its own problems and still being pretty cringe is an enjoyable read for me. I'd try one more and if you don't dig it you're not missing any great lit if you don't read anymore.
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TheWorldsaStage posted:I know this is a post from last month, but if I enjoyed his Nocturnes books and The Book of Lost Things immensely, does his Charlie Parker series have the same...I don't know, "air" or voice? I liked the story with his character in Nocturnes at least! I haven’t read his other series (not sure why) but to me he has a pretty distinctive writer ‘voice’, and I can’t really imagine it changes that much? Sorry! I would try the first one, with the caveat that I think the series gets better as it goes on.
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newts posted:I haven’t read his other series (not sure why) but to me he has a pretty distinctive writer ‘voice’, and I can’t really imagine it changes that much? Sorry! I would try the first one, with the caveat that I think the series gets better as it goes on. Hey no prob, I'll take the rec! Yeah in the books I've read it is very distinctive and I love it. Allow me to gush about Nocturnes I and II, it's a two part anthology of short horror stories (and a Charlie Parker novella) by Connoly and they range from 'pretty ok' to 'Holy loving poo poo' and I reread them year after year. The Book of Lost Things, while horror adjacent, is more of the fairy tale grim variety about acceptance and loss. Couldn't recommend them enough. TheWorldsaStage fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Aug 25, 2022 |
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