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tsob posted:You know what? Good point. I wonder how good at navigating those situations she would be sober? Better or worse? I figure she's just a really relaxed drunk, but kind of high strung sober. She's not a drunken Kung Fu master, but a drunken bullshit master. Karaoke should be the shawarma of the next Avengers post credit scene. I just want all further Marvel projects to have Madisynn just drunk white-girling her way into the middle of things and somehow making them worse and/or better.
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Everyone posted:I just want all further Marvel projects to have Madisynn just drunk white-girling her way into the middle of things and somehow making them worse and/or better. Wong could lead a sidekick team with Madisynn, Luis, Katy and Ned.
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kazil posted:So Madisynn makes a pact with a demon (that she can't discuss). I think you mean... M'Fisto 
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I hadn't noticed it before, but towards the end of the credits the piano seems like it's homaging the Ferigno theme. Goddamn was this a good episode. I also figured out where the CGI disconnect comes from, at least for me, it's how her hair frames her face. If I focus only on her face, it's fine, but the head as a whole, something about the hair bordering her face take me out of it.
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The queen dies on the same day we get gifted Madisynn KING? Thank you, Jake.
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A simply delightful ep but I was super bummed when the dude bounced as soon as he saw Jen, man. She made breakfast and everything! Would totally watch Wong & Madisynn Adventures show.
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Sentinel Red posted:A simply delightful ep but I was super bummed when the dude bounced as soon as he saw Jen, man. She made breakfast and everything! I can't understand not being pumped to wake up and see Tatiana Maslany and a yummy breakfast and I'm literally asexual
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I think the takeaway is that dudes, just like in real life, are often gross and shallow. Its hard to square that against Tatiana Maslany but that's some suspension of disbelief thats still in line with the widespread misogyny in society.
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This is the wrong thread!
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Everyone posted:I just want all further Marvel projects to have Madisynn just drunk white-girling her way into the middle of things and somehow making them worse and/or better. Well, I know what I want for Loki season 2 now 
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M_Gargantua posted:I think the takeaway is that dudes, just like in real life, are often gross and shallow. Its hard to square that against Tatiana Maslany but that's some suspension of disbelief thats still in line with the widespread misogyny in society. I mean, his situation was quite freaky to be fair. He went to bed with a 7 foot tall green woman who could bench press a mountain and woke up to find some regular girl making him breakfast who he didn't know and was just confused by the appearance of. Ghosting out of there was presumably an indication that She-Hulk was all he was interested in, but it'd be something to make most people, male or female, a bit wigged out even in the best of cases. It's not like it's unprecedented even in characters people love either. Felicia Hardy (aka Black Cat) is often portrayed as really only having an attraction to Spider-man and no real interest in Peter Parker. She'll put up with him, rather than walking out, but her preference is clear and she regularly pushes Peter to be Spider-man more in his life, to deal with problems as Spider-man etc., rather than going around as Peter.
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Sep 8, 2022 21:55
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I'm shipping Wongers and Madisynn
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Sep 8, 2022 22:03
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Pretty sure handsome doctor dude is really into women bigger than him, and not into women smaller than him. He spends much of the date angling to be the pursued, instead of the pursuer. He doesn't talk about his own job and himself because he wants someone else to talk about themselves at him. He's orienting around a strong woman who takes control of the situation both physically and conversationally.
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M_Gargantua posted:I think the takeaway is that dudes, just like in real life, are often gross and shallow. Its hard to square that against Tatiana Maslany but that's some suspension of disbelief thats still in line with the widespread misogyny in society. Many guys like that definitely would throw Maslany out of bed for eating crackers and that says nothing about Maslany. Maslany is beautiful but many men just want to be associated with a woman fitting an unrealistic and unnatural standard of beauty - meaning expensive and extensive makeup, hair, clothes, physique, surgeries, and on and on. Basically, the look She-Hulk achieves by virtue of just being She-Hulk. There's nothing wrong with women pursuing that standard of beauty at all but that's what a lot of men "ideally" want to be associated with. I think those men are dumb but that's me - see the "hurr durr take her swimming on the first date!" [so her makeup will wash off and you'll know what she "really" looks like] meme. A man can be a modern 10 by with a handsome face, a decently fit body, a good job, a somewhat healthy emotional register, and a healthy bank account. So, they want what they perceive as the female 10 which is unattainable and intentionally so, because it makes a lot of people a whole lot of money if the goal can never be reached and women always feel bad about how they look. Social media and porn have utterly destroyed the male understanding of what women naturally look like, so even the most beautiful women don't measure up unless they expend a ton of time, effort, and money to do so. It's great! /s Noam Chomsky fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Sep 8, 2022 |
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The show's definitely framing the guy as an rear end in a top hat but at the same time he himself is a beefcake type and Jen does break the fourth wall to say that appearances are important.
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live with fruit posted:The show's definitely framing the guy as an rear end in a top hat but at the same time he himself is a beefcake type and Jen does break the fourth wall to say that appearances are important. Right but if you look around in the real world you'll see appearance "mismatches" all the time because appearances are just the shiny lure on the hook. It's important but not the only factor and can be outweighed by other factors both good and bad. Jen thought he liked her but he just liked She-Hulk. Someone who isn't a complete piece of trash would have conducted themselves completely differently even if they found out Jen isn't She-Hulk all the time. It's about his ego. I mean, he gets a 10/10 in appearance and character who is a part-time 11/10 and that's still not good enough because ONLY the unattainable, supernatural She-Hulk is good enough. Pure ego and narcissism and common among men who are or think they are 10s.
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Noam Chomsky posted:Social media and porn have utterly destroyed the male understanding of what women naturally look like, so even the most beautiful women don't measure up unless they expend a ton of time, effort, and money to do so. I'm pretty sure Hollywood and the marketing industry were on that before social media or porn. Porn predates all of them, but porn before the advent of things like Playboy or home media was very different to what it's become since, with a lot less money and exposure, so much different standards for the women involved.
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The real red flag was that he didn't care about all the demon guts she was covered in.
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tsob posted:I'm pretty sure Hollywood and the marketing industry were on that before social media or porn. Porn predates all of them, but porn before the advent of things like Playboy or home media was very different to what it's become since, with a lot less money and exposure, so much different standards for the women involved. You're not wrong but before social media, the people you saw on a screen were completely unattainable in a variety of ways. Now we all see each other on the screen all the time, or at least a version of each other, so the mindset is that what is seen on these sites is realistic and standard. Porn has a lot of crossover with social media as well. I'm not saying porn and social media are evil. However, they absolutely do affect the male perception of women and their appearance.
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He could've at least stayed for breakfast and been polite before ghosting her. 
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Man came to smash and then dash, not eat hash(browns)
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live with fruit posted:The show's definitely framing the guy as an rear end in a top hat but at the same time he himself is a beefcake type and Jen does break the fourth wall to say that appearances are important. I absolutely didn't read it as him being an rear end in a top hat. There was no indication that he wasn't legitimately interested in She-Hulk as a person, but he woke up to a woman he didn't even recognize. I feel bad for Jen, but I can't say it was unjustified. The Modern Leper fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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I was so super chuffed at the super over-dramatic "Previously... on She-Hulk..." at the beginning like it was a special two-parter Law and Order. Everything about this was amazing. Madisynn describing her journey through hell on the witness stand was the best thing I've ever seen.
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The Modern Leper posted:I absolutely didn't read it as him being an rear end in a top hat. There was no indication that he wasn't legitimately interested in She-Hulk as a person, but he woke up to a woman he didn't even recognize. Jen goes overboard preparing breakfast and he bails on her immediately after finding out that she's not She-Hulk all the time. His reaction is understandable but it's definitely framed like he rejected Jen after seeing the real her, which is lovely.
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The Modern Leper posted:I absolutely didn't read it as him being an rear end in a top hat. There was no indication that he wasn't legitimately interested in She-Hulk as a person, but he woke up to a woman he didn't even recognize. The more I think about it, the more I kind of sympathize with the guy. Jen basically catfished him, misrepresenting herself on the dating app in order to get a date. Well, not misrepresenting exactly, but he definitely didn't expect what he saw the following morning when she was a completely different person. Which falls under the banner of catfishing. And that's not really a fault on him. He went on a date expecting one thing and got another he had no interest in. He didn't react well to it, and leaving that suddenly and coldly was a dick move, but he was also plainly shocked by seeing Jen so he probably wasn't thinking completely rationally either. I'd hope he'd at least regret it later, but at the same time, it was probably better to make clear his lack of interest than to lead her on with false interest for the sake of politeness over breakfast or something.
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I think he just wanted to bang a hulk.
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Are we really going to bat for the ghost dude.
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This show’s Jokes Per Minute are too high. Nobody has even commented on “and I can conjure a bird!”
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kazil posted:I think he just wanted to bang a hulk. It's nice to know that some dreams do come true  Marsupial Ape posted:This show’s Jokes Per Minute are too high. Nobody has even commented on “and I can conjure a bird!” "Why is there even a notification for that" is probably my favorite. Or the magician lawyer sneaking a rabbit behind Donny's scarf in the court room for the judge to "aww" over. tsob fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Marsupial Ape posted:This show’s Jokes Per Minute are too high. Nobody has even commented on “and I can conjure a bird!” haha yeah, and "Oh my god, even the lawyer's a magician!"
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Rappaport posted:Well, I know what I want for Loki season 2 now I want it to turn out that Madisynn's demon deal gave her the (unconscious) ability to travel time and space while completely wasted. So I want Marvel to "Forrest Gump" meme her and quietly put her in scenes of all their movies and series: Madisynn in New York during The First Avenger, in the auction club in Black Panther, in Babylon during The Eternals etc. Next to a crying Doctor Doom during 9/11.
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Sentinel Red posted:Real chuffed for Benedict Wong though, even if he is a filthy Manc. In case this isn't a joke, Benedict Wong is famously from Salford, which is famously not Manchester.
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tsob posted:You know what? Good point. I wonder how good at navigating those situations she would be sober? Better or worse? I figure she's just a really relaxed drunk, but kind of high strung sober. She's not a drunken Kung Fu master, but a drunken bullshit master. Karaoke should be the shawarma of the next Avengers post credit scene. "That's my secret Cap, I'm always drunk."
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kazil posted:haha yeah, and "Oh my god, even the lawyer's a magician!" The court stenographer scowling and erasing what they had written when Madisynn was spelling her name.
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Fun fact: The actor playing Donnie Blaze is married to the director.
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I don't know if I'm surprised or not that people didn't completely hate the horribly unfunny Madisynn character.live with fruit posted:Fun fact: The actor playing Donnie Blaze is married to the director.
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lmao that's where I recognized Donny from. Madisynn should have asked Wongers to put on Entourage.
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This is conjecture, but ’specimen’ dude is totally the ‘boss’ mentioned by the Wrecking Crew, last episode. He was doing recon.
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