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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:why? is it drowning out all the rest of the valuable commentary people are making on webcomics To me it feels like something where the point has been made and repeating it isn't really interesting or meaningful and thus ends up being just a bummer to read. Especially since that particular view tends to be accompanied with some levels of "looks like the Anime Defender has logged on  " attitude if someone responds to it. But I don't really think it has been flooding the thread or has even overall been all that common recently, just something that irks me that I wanted to voice even as an aside. (And to repeat, not liking whatever style is totally OK)E: not the best page snipe, so have a Perry Bible Fellowship 
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Boba Pearl posted:I would like it if people in this thread felt comfortable criticizing the comics being posted. Including mine! Hugboxes are boring and it wasnt even a lol anime comment the character art for that page is legit off, e: seriouspost visually your comic is not for me but I'm pretty sure it's a me thing. It looks very pretty but I am absolutely incapable of parsing it. Splicer has a new favorite as of 15:21 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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yeah anything to stop the thread being silent walls of images is good. that said, forming 340-the current last page last time: mithras crashed into angru mainyu, killing him. from the rubble, emerges       so... that's it, really. the current comic sort of ends with Hedrigall showing up in the thread and ruining everything for everyone. this was of course forshadowed ten years ago, but there you go there was a new page uploaded a few weeks ago, which seems to pick up the serapis storyline again  but it's slow going, and i'm going to stop posting the comic now that we're in realtime. that's it! that's the end! no moral!
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I can't comment on your comic Boba as it's not my thing, I am very happy you got a creative outlet that people like.
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Well that definitely ended as "I'm coming... I don't understand but I'm coming"
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Emzedoh posted:In this update, our hero confronts breakfast and finds a lead. Glasgow was rough back in the day. It's much nicer now and it's the premier place to see gigs in Scotland. I don't live there but I visit quite often and it's great. Lmao at the buckfast eggs. Absolutely revolting.
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Chas McGill posted:Glasgow was rough back in the day. It's much nicer now and it's the premier place to see gigs in Scotland. I don't live there but I visit quite often and it's great. I mean, let's not get too lionizing; there's still a dreadful amount of poverty around the place. But you're much less likely to be stabbed to death for wearing green/blue in the wrong pub now.
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"anime is bad" isn't criticism, it's just a meme, and a dumb one repeated endlessly by dumb people with nothing substantive to say. It doesn't contribute anything or provide any interesting perspective, it's just a reflexive kneejerk by people who somehow never have the same criticisms for Western art and animation that falls into the same tropes or has the same characteristics, for some reason 
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correct - anyone who doesn't like anime is a racist
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No, but anyone who can't help constantly reminding everyone that they don't like it every time it comes up probably is to some degree. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:correct - anyone who doesn't like anime is a racist Hmm yes anime is blood
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:No, but anyone who can't help constantly reminding everyone that they don't like it every time it comes up probably is to some degree.
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Samovar posted:I mean, let's not get too lionizing; there's still a dreadful amount of poverty around the place. But you're much less likely to be stabbed to death for wearing green/blue in the wrong pub now. It also rains all the loving time.
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My search for some good comic to stop this argument had failed, now I'm full of hate. Here's something to make you all hate too.
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Splicer posted:What if you watch an extremely limited amount of anime because even in loving one punch man the only prominent female character is a definitely not 12 year old flashing constant upskirts so while yes the anime is blood hyperbole is a bit OTT you do have to admit that most manga and anime that reaches mainstream attention manages to outskeeve western media, which is a hell of an achievement? That's a valid complaint and a topic to discuss in general, but nobody's posted anything like that itt and the current discussion was started by the observation that a comic character had simplified and stylized facial features in juxtaposition with a highly detailed background, something that's common to comic art all around the world, so what you're talking about isn't really relevant in this case and it's not even what's being talked about most of the time anyone decides to bring it up itt anyway.
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Splicer posted:What if you watch an extremely limited amount of anime because even in loving one punch man the only prominent female character is a definitely not 12 year old flashing constant upskirts so while yes the anime is blood hyperbole is a bit OTT you do have to admit that most manga and anime that reaches mainstream attention manages to outskeeve western media, which is a hell of an achievement? My man someone just posted a comic where a man gets anally raped by his son who has just become a lion man and nobody batted an eye
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:That's a valid complaint and a topic to discuss in general, but nobody's posted anything like that itt and the current discussion was started by the observation that a comic character had simplified and stylized facial features in juxtaposition with a highly detailed background, something that's common to comic art all around the world, so what you're talking about isn't really relevant in this case and it's not even what's being talked about most of the time anyone decides to bring it up itt anyway.
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if anyone got titillated by the lion incident then i think the recent spree of permabans missed someoneSon of Thunderbeast posted:No, but anyone who can't help constantly reminding everyone that they don't like it every time it comes up probably is to some degree. lol
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:if anyone got titillated by the lion incident then i think the recent spree of permabans missed someone
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oh god, fine, no more picking fun at poo poo anymore just so we can avoid this it's still funny though
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:That's a valid complaint and a topic to discuss in general, but nobody's posted anything like that itt and the current discussion was started by the observation that a comic character had simplified and stylized facial features in juxtaposition with a highly detailed background, something that's common to comic art all around the world, so what you're talking about isn't really relevant in this case and it's not even what's being talked about most of the time anyone decides to bring it up itt anyway. Someone made a criticism of a particular panel that was uncharacteristically abstract and/or bad and the anime likers all came out of the woodwork to defend it. People can laugh at art fails without it being a condemnation of entire cultures or even artists (Mori is easily the most technically skilled artist that gets posted here and even her stylized faces are usually rendered with much more care, which is part of what makes that panel so weird/funny), I don't see why Japanese art needs to be sacrosanct to appease butthurt fans.
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Last time on Joey's Special Experience by Hirohiko Archie: God stays on the ceiling like a freak, and Joost grabs a nearby spear and prepares to fight! Read right to left: Chapter 14 - God is in Part 3      
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Samovar posted:That's the done thing back home! I'm gonna go to Twat, Scotland.
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the holy poopacy posted:Someone made a criticism of a particular panel that was uncharacteristically abstract and/or bad and the anime likers all came out of the woodwork to defend it. People can laugh at art fails without it being a condemnation of entire cultures or even artists (Mori is easily the most technically skilled artist that gets posted here and even her stylized faces are usually rendered with much more care, which is part of what makes that panel so weird/funny), I don't see why Japanese art needs to be sacrosanct to appease butthurt fans.
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By popular demand posted:I can't comment on your comic Boba as it's not my thing, I am very happy you got a creative outlet that people like. I'm just happy to have an outlet whether people like it or not. Like I still want to hear negative opinions and grow, but nothing has had quite a positive effect on my mood and mental health as throwing all of my energy into a creative project. Splicer posted:Your comic looks revolting and every time I see it toxic bile begins to wait hang on I have just received important news regarding the power state of my monitor.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:if anyone got titillated by the lion incident then i think the recent spree of permabans missed someone
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the holy poopacy posted:Someone made a criticism of a particular panel that was uncharacteristically abstract and/or bad and the anime likers all came out of the woodwork to defend it. People can laugh at art fails without it being a condemnation of entire cultures or even artists (Mori is easily the most technically skilled artist that gets posted here and even her stylized faces are usually rendered with much more care, which is part of what makes that panel so weird/funny), I don't see why Japanese art needs to be sacrosanct to appease butthurt fans. This is a fairly imprecise description of the discussion thus far and no-one has called for Japanese art (or any other) to be sacrosanct or otherwise beyond criticism. These things can be discussed (and the discussion meta-discussed) without jumping to this kind of useless hyperbole; i.e. what Thunderbeast said. EDIT: But the discussion now doesn't really feel like it's leading anywhere so I think I won't post on the topic more after this unless something unusual happens Anyway, the idea of posting Perry Bible Fellowship struck me as a fun idea, let's post some more: Perry Bible Fellowship   
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insanely undetailed faces. get that poo poo outta here
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:insanely undetailed faces. get that poo poo outta here I'm extremely tired of the "stick figures are blood" meme 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:It's the exact opposite problem--criticisms of Asian art styles are treated as representative of the whole, which is why "anime is bad" is such a repetitive and constant meme, and any response to a criticism or to someone's slack-jawed "anime is bad" is automatically treated as over-defensiveness of Japanese art by weebs, no matter what the actual response is. You're doing it right now, treating my responses as though I'm saying "Japanese art needs to be sacrosanct" when all I've been saying is "anime is bad" is a tired meme that contributes nothing. If someone has something substantive to say they should say it, instead of leaning on a tired old racist meme, or acting like anyone with a different opinion is treating "Japanese art" like it needs to be "sacrosanct." A specific criticism of a specific panel was made and several people came in complaining about "anime is bad" memes in response, so I'm going to call it like I see it.
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my favourite pbf meme is people not getting the joke of the comic. i'm not sure where it started but it was amazing stuff kinda like  "i don't get it, where did the original skinny guy go and why did they replace him in the lineup with a fat man"
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I don't remember exactly how or when it started, just that it started from a genuinely clueless goon or two who didn't get what was happening in one of the PBFs, causing a minor derail for a page or two. Then it happened a second time, and the meme was born That was an amazingly funny period of PYF comics
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Your comic’s colors still really don’t work. The lack of pop and contrast makes everything really muddy and not pleasant to look at. You have a lot of unused space in your comic, and panel composition is deeply boring. Your characters still look very stiff—you don’t do a very good job communicating motion. That and the colors are the primary things that keep your comic looking amateurish. Your characters in the group shot all look traced from a model, which is exacerbating the problem. It all seems amateurish. The trans flag colors in your speech balloons combine with the font and make the text hard to read. I posted all of Old Man of the Underworld, my standards aren’t demanding, but all of these flaws are major barriers keeping me from reading your comic and need to be improved
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the holy poopacy posted:A specific criticism of a specific panel was made and several people came in complaining about "anime is bad" memes in response, so I'm going to call it like I see it. The same people made the same criticism of Mori that they always do—that they don’t like the manga style faces with the more detailed art. It’s not a new criticism, it’s the same posters going “ugh anime” when hyper-detailed backgrounds and simple character faces is common not only in manga but in European comics as well. When you separate the posters itt into “anime likers” and “everyone else” you already have a problem
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here's my insanely aggressive screed against a colourblind artist. anyway, it's people not liking anime enough that's the problem itt
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I think there's officially been more discussion of whether people disliked the comic correctly or pushed back on the comment correctly than there was actual discussion of the panel in question lol. It was like, 2 comments about not liking the panel, 2 about not liking those comments, and a then about page about if those interactions were reasonable.
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