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opening a Word file and doing nothing else but printing it will trigger a "Save changes?" dialog box
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Oct 21, 2022 19:18
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Chris Knight posted:opening a Word file and doing nothing else but printing it will trigger a "Save changes?" dialog box The word safe mode is completely useless since it's not even that practical to view documents in it. I want to say you can't even search within a document in safe mode. If you really don't trust the document you're probably better off opening it in the web version of word
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Oct 21, 2022 19:21
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reminder that windows used to do font rendering in the kernel
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Oct 21, 2022 19:31
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using code from Adobe
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Oct 21, 2022 19:31
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software...bad?
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Oct 21, 2022 19:39
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adobe type manager 
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Oct 21, 2022 19:41
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beuges posted:Word makes you leave the safe mode sandbox in order to print also. I’m guessing accessing a printer isn’t allowed in the low integrity space maybe if your org enforces information classification or w/e in microsoft 365 then you have to select a classification for every doc you open that doesn't have one so if you're opening a lot of old docs then it's just a shitshow, especially if you're trying to do so via sharepoint.
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Oct 21, 2022 19:48
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spankmeister posted:reminder that windows used to do font rendering in the kernel yes, I modded a ton of og xbox's
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Oct 21, 2022 19:49
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if I have to review a word document, I just print to pdf and use a pdf viewer. Takes up less RAM and the document opens up more quickly for later reference.
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Oct 21, 2022 19:56
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spankmeister posted:reminder that windows used to do font rendering in the kernel I’m pretty sure that with the way the NT kernel (or rather, executive) is setup there’s no way around doing at least some of that? anyway that’s why trusted fonts are a thing - OS fonts are all but drivers from one point of view.
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Oct 21, 2022 20:04
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Chris Knight posted:opening a Word file and doing nothing else but printing it will trigger a "Save changes?" dialog box there’s a metadata field in every .docx for last print time so at least there’s a reason for that
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Oct 21, 2022 20:08
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hobbesmaster posted:I’m pretty sure that with the way the NT kernel (or rather, executive) is setup there’s no way around doing at least some of that? yeah but now at least it's under microsoft's control, pre-NT adobe would just monkeypatch their way in
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Oct 21, 2022 20:09
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if you can raster a document to the screen buffer why can’t it just be sent to the printer as an image. idgi
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Oct 21, 2022 20:11
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mystes posted:I prefer to use journalctl (the j is pronounced with a y sound) incorrect CRUD grants in the journalDB
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Oct 21, 2022 20:21
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Pendragon posted:thanks, I’ll never forget it dpkg chopra posted:I keep getting dns collisions with that Chris Knight posted:that'll stop after the first two  4lokos basilisk posted:this makes sense. no matter what: a toilet is always safe to log in Fellow forums poster 4lokos basilisk, we both know that some toilets are flooded with log in attempts even after it's clear that it won't work.
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Oct 21, 2022 20:42
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Have your plumber install fail2ban
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Oct 21, 2022 21:09
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log2js
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Oct 21, 2022 21:10
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mystes posted:IIRC the layout/pagination is somehow affected by the print driver so maybe this isn't surprising. I don't know why microsoft hasn't tried to abstract this away at least in files created in newer versions of word because it's dumb because corporations print and buy windows and they will not buy windows if the printer stops working
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Oct 21, 2022 21:14
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hobbesmaster posted:I’m pretty sure that with the way the NT kernel (or rather, executive) is setup there’s no way around doing at least some of that? they put it in some kind of userland container in one of the big Win10 update. Creators update or something.
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Oct 21, 2022 21:22
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don't talk to me or my userland containers again!
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Oct 21, 2022 21:32
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Jenny Agutter posted:if you can raster a document to the screen buffer why can’t it just be sent to the printer as an image. idgi that's exactly what apple airprint does and it's slow as gently caress because to render text nicely you need at least 300 dpi a 300dpi rgb image with no compression is like 25 MB. i guess you could compress that but since it has to be lossless it makes printing a full color image pretty slow
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Oct 21, 2022 23:55
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wow 25 whole megabytes?
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Oct 22, 2022 00:08
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have you ever worked with printers
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Oct 22, 2022 00:11
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Fart Sandwiches posted:have you ever worked with printers no. lets keep it that way
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Oct 22, 2022 00:17
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I had an employee tell me printing was slow just last week so I looked at the document and it was 6.4GB  of completely raw uncompressed detailed blueprints being sent to a wide format printer with PS driver.It was taking her like 2 hours to print lol
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Oct 22, 2022 00:20
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I fell like on a modern network 25MB is not going to be the bottleneck unless you’re using a serious office printer
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Oct 22, 2022 00:20
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go play outside Skyler posted:that's exactly what apple airprint does and it's slow as gently caress okay but why is this better in the kernel. what is it about having access to supervisor instructions that makes it possible to do this incrementally
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Oct 22, 2022 00:26
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Achmed Jones posted:no. lets keep it that way you just wait until you see a 1mb pdf turn into 380mb in the print queue
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Oct 22, 2022 00:40
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prettty sure most printers have the slowest possible network interface combined with the slowest possible ram which means printing a 10-page text-only document become a 15-minute thing because you're sending it 250 megabytes of bitmap data i guess what i'm trying to say is airprint sucks but having postscript/fonts run in the kernel is equally bad if not worse it's been 50 years since we invented printers and they still suck except for you, my brother dcp 9010, you're a fine little fella
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Oct 22, 2022 02:15
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spankmeister posted:they put it in some kind of userland container in one of the big Win10 update. Creators update or something. that’s actually an option and trusted (ie, default) fonts still use the kernel mode GDI+ or whatever it’s called path because otherwise it’d break in essence all windows applications in some way
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Oct 22, 2022 03:17
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Jenny Agutter posted:if you can raster a document to the screen buffer why can’t it just be sent to the printer as an image. idgi this was historically way too slow and today is… well impossible but annoying I like using this CUPS block diagram at a couple different jobs now when someone vaguely asks “for printer support” in an embedded device:  I think it sums up the clusterfuck that the vague task called “printing” is actually under the covers. edit: transparent svg doesn’t play nicely with yospos, at least in awful.app
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Oct 22, 2022 03:26
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Chris Knight posted:opening a Word file and doing nothing else but printing it will trigger a "Save changes?" dialog box is this a machine-generated document?
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Oct 22, 2022 03:46
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rjmccall posted:okay but why is this better in the kernel. what is it about having access to supervisor instructions that makes it possible to do this incrementally iirc a lot of the odd stuff that sat in the windows kernel was only put there for performance and not because they needed supervisor instructions. and then once performance improved so that the benefit of having those functions in the kernel was no longer necessary, they were so deeply nested that it took a long time to refactor it all out into user land.
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Oct 22, 2022 07:59
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Jenny Agutter posted:there’s a metadata field in every .docx for last print time so at least there’s a reason for that Isn't "last print time" entirely useless if I'm going to just press "no" to "save changes" for fear I unintentionally changed something in the document?
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Oct 22, 2022 08:56
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Pile Of Garbage posted:quick question re yubikeys: if i've hooked up a bunch of poo poo to a yubikey with an unset FIDO2 PIN and then set a PIN will that break the existing associations? Since nobody real answered, adding a pin will not effect existing associations, only require an extra step to validate the log on.
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Oct 22, 2022 12:14
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SlowBloke posted:Since nobody real answered, adding a pin will not effect existing associations, only require an extra step to validate the log on. im real as a player beleedat
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Oct 22, 2022 12:45
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Xakura posted:Isn't "last print time" entirely useless if I'm going to just press "no" to "save changes" for fear I unintentionally changed something in the document? yes
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Oct 22, 2022 16:42
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my time in enterprise software tells me that this mechanism means the bug report can be closed easily as WORKSASDESIGNED which is something more important to the Office team than not having a bewildering user experience
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Oct 22, 2022 16:48
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i designed and landed a feature used by x million people. it saves them y minutes per day on average. this implies a savings of approximately z engineering hours throughout our organization result: promotion note that whether the feature was actually good idea is not mentioned
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whoever invented the ribbon in the office pack (and added it to explorer), ought to have their ide taken away from them by force because they sure as gently caress aren't up to anything good
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