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Baron von Eevl posted:Yeah, it's almost like a gag. "Now, I have to be very precise to pull this off, do an absolutely flawless performance and work harder than I've ever worked, even as a master of my craft." There's that amazing Tleilaxu in Heretics who has secret dart throwers in his sleeves that are bathed in radiation baths at absolute zero to render them completely undetectable to scanners, and then the Bene Gesserit immediately think "hmm, why does this idiot keep pointing his sleeve at me?"
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Strom Cuzewon posted:There's that amazing Tleilaxu in Heretics who has secret dart throwers in his sleeves that are bathed in radiation baths at absolute zero to render them completely undetectable to scanners, and then the Bene Gesserit immediately think "hmm, why does this idiot keep pointing his sleeve at me?"
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Trying to fool a precognitive is kind of a dumb idea in general. Even when he's actively trying to get himself assassinated, the best Leto II can do is spend ten thousand years making everyone in the galaxy including his inner circle and the guy he keeps cloning every time he dies desperately want to kill him until someone finally manages it through a ludicrous scheme. Even moreso than the laza tigers.
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AnEdgelord posted:God Emperor will be made into a full hollywood production and if it isn't Villeneuve is a coward
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Also feels like it makes sense that the Tleilaxu and probably Ixians are extremely STEM-brained.
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While they may be the absolute worst at ever pulling off their schemes, the Tleilaxu definitely have one of the coolest names in all of scifi. Funny since Dune is so full of bizarrely normal names like Paul or Jessica.
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jeeves posted:While they may be the absolute worst at ever pulling off their schemes, the Tleilaxu definitely have one of the coolest names in all of scifi. Funny since Dune is so full of bizarrely normal names like Paul or Jessica. I feel it's a thing with the Biblical themes. Paul being quite the important name in that after all.
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jeeves posted:While they may be the absolute worst at ever pulling off their schemes, the Tleilaxu definitely have one of the coolest names in all of scifi. Funny since Dune is so full of bizarrely normal names like Paul or Jessica. You're welcome to your opinion and I support you in that, but I don't understand it in the slightest : that name is very clearly just pressing buttons on a keyboard and reads as B''llS'he-eet FanToSy Neim to me. Herbert accidentally made that one word sound like it could be Nahuatl, but I haven't seen any evidence it was intentional and there's a lot of evidence gesturing to that not being the case. I have an incredibly low bar for my nerd-fiction names, because that's just the genre, but this doesn't even clear that and would fit just as well in Black Library book.
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Axlotl tanks always gives me a chuckle. The bio horror cloning system has a name derived from… axolotls? The cute little lizard guys?
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Bugblatter posted:Axlotl tanks always gives me a chuckle. The bio horror cloning system has a name derived from… axolotls? The cute little lizard guys? They're at least fascinating from a biological perspective in terms of neoteny and limb regeneration, so that one kinda works
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Xiahou Dun posted:You're welcome to your opinion and I support you in that, but I don't understand it in the slightest : that name is very clearly just pressing buttons on a keyboard and reads as B''llS'he-eet FanToSy Neim to me. What’s Black Library Book? Anyway OP is right that Bene Tleilax/Tleilaxu is one of the best names in Dune, and the whole series is a high water mark for SF names and terms (both the pulpy and the cool ones). I was slow on the uptake that the BT was a paper tiger because I thought there was no way they’d be so lame with a name that cool
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Jewmanji posted:What’s Black Library Book? Anyway OP is right that Bene Tleilax/Tleilaxu is one of the best names in Dune, and the whole series is a high water mark for SF names and terms (both the pulpy and the cool ones). I was slow on the uptake that the BT was a paper tiger because I thought there was no way they’d be so lame with a name that cool I typo'd and forgot to put in a definite article there ; Black Library is Warhammer's semi-in house publishing arm that vomit 20 books a year about grizzle marines fighting for the emperor in a generically fascist-catholic way. And you do you, but that name is garbage. It's trying to sound weird to English speakers but it's not actually weird so it's just boring and doesn't fit in with the setting.
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Ah well I've stayed clear of Warhammer so I can't speak to that. What are some examples you do like (inside out outside of Dune)?
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Jewmanji posted:Ah well I've stayed clear of Warhammer so I can't speak to that. What are some examples you do like (inside out outside of Dune)? You don't miss much. I played Warhammer as a kid so I was adjacent to the books but not a fan and they're 99% shovelware. Actual good fictional names usually ground their schemes in some real-world thoughts about language to get a consistent set of phonological characteristics. This means generally having a linguist on staff to make a fictional language or already caring enough about language to do that work yourself (hi, Tolkien). Although even then a lot of cowards still just go with "take real world language our audience doesn't speak, make up new words" approach ; Dothraki is just a mix of Turkic and Mongolian, Tolkien's Elvish is really just Finnish, etc. Off the top of my head, my current top dog is The Expanse because they make some interesting and occasionally subtle world-building choices with the names, GRRM's Westeros is fundamentally a little derpy but I gotta give it 50 points for consistency, Na'vi of all loving things is actually pretty interesting*. Firefly, despite clearly not being planned out, is actually pretty consistent where Chinese is basically some kind of semi-liturgical language/Lingua Franca. But this is ignoring the ultimate example : China Mieville's Embassytown, which actually has interesting aliens with a different approach to language and its plot does a bunch of cool, interesting things with it. There are major plot points based around the relationship between actual spoken language and the things they represent. *I don't care about Avatar, but they gave a linguist a lot of money and they had some fun taking a bunch of really, really cool and rare linguistic features and combining them, and I can't fault them because I would've done the same. Yeah let's have VOS word order and a tri-partite case morphology system and throw ejective consonants on top for fun.
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I will not every get over Gurm having a character named Uncle Kevin in his dragons and tits show.
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Baron von Eevl posted:I will not every get over Gurm having a character named Uncle Kevin in his dragons and tits show. He literally has Moe, Curly and Larry in there along with half of Sesame Street. Hence why it's "look it's consistent so technically good, but also I hate it."
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Xiahou Dun posted:But this is ignoring the ultimate example : China Mieville's Embassytown, which actually has interesting aliens with a different approach to language and its plot does a bunch of cool, interesting things with it. There are major plot points based around the relationship between actual spoken language and the things they represent. That was such a cool book
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Failed Imagineer posted:That was such a cool book Dude is hella divisive, but he legit has some bold ideas and he really takes them to their end points.
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I’ll add it to my reading list. He’s always been just outside of my reading orbit. Thanks!
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Xiahou Dun posted:Actual good fictional names usually ground their schemes in some real-world thoughts about language to get a consistent set of phonological characteristics. This means generally having a linguist on staff to make a fictional language or already caring enough about language to do that work yourself (hi, Tolkien). Although even then a lot of cowards still just go with "take real world language our audience doesn't speak, make up new words" approach ; Dothraki is just a mix of Turkic and Mongolian, Tolkien's Elvish is really just Finnish, etc. I'd also throw in the Gene Wolfe approach in Book of the New Sun: have such a staggering vocabulary that it seems like you've made up a language when in fact almost every word is standard English.
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Can we talk about how poo poo Richese is compared to IX? The only thing they manufacture is disappointment.
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Baron Porkface posted:Can we talk about how poo poo Richese is compared to IX? I always assumed they were the children of Ixians who were putting on their parents’ clothes and playing grown up. They’re like a galactic lemonade stand.
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Captain von Trapp posted:I'd also throw in the Gene Wolfe approach in Book of the New Sun: have such a staggering vocabulary that it seems like you've made up a language when in fact almost every word is standard English. also done by the Commonweal series
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DUNC DONE https://twitter.com/letterboxd/status/1602353509911105537?t=SAcF2K8nEa4D9YC8YbS_uw&s=19
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:DUNC DONE That's the unmistakable look of someone about to commit galaxy-wide genocide.
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:DUNC DONE I think you mean DUNC DONC
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Wafflecopper posted:I think you mean DUNC DONC That's powerful, but the current title is so good...... Played the board game over the weekend, was some excellent wheels within wheels plotting, ended up with a canonical emperor/harkonnen v atreides/fremen alliance
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sebmojo posted:That's powerful, but the current title is so good...... God I miss having people close to me who like games that are that cut-throat and can still be friends after.
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Wafflecopper posted:I think you mean DUNC DONC Doot-oot-oot-oot ooooo, dunc donc doot-oot-oot-oot oooooo oooo
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sebmojo posted:That's powerful, but the current title is so good...... You mean irl? sounds awesome
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kalel posted:You mean irl? sounds awesome That game for real owns, when we first played it we were all sort of worried at first because it seems incredibly complex but after the first turn everything just flows so well and it does an amazing job working the plans within plans/alliances/loving people over stuff into what honestly can be a pretty fast paced game. Really impressive and I totally see why it has such a cult following.
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Neo Rasa posted:That game for real owns, when we first played it we were all sort of worried at first because it seems incredibly complex but after the first turn everything just flows so well and it does an amazing job working the plans within plans/alliances/loving people over stuff into what honestly can be a pretty fast paced game. Really impressive and I totally see why it has such a cult following. Yeah I had a great time with it. I played as the spacer's guild and opened up by hotdropping a huge force onto Carthag which promptly got obliterated when it turned out the commander was in the Harkonnens' pocket. I recovered somewhat from that but despite being rich as gently caress (other players have to pay the guild every time they land troops from space), didn't have the manpower to dislodge the two strong alliances that were dominating the game. But I was able to bankroll two more-or-less elimated factions (including the Harkonnens) back into the game which were enough to stop any of the big players from achieving a victory condition before the final turn... and the spacer's guild wins if nobody else does by then   
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Arglebargle III posted:I would like to see Dune 3 Please. DUN3, obviously.
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DUUC But with the U and N turned into a three. Upside down also, apparently
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Oh great Padishah Emperor Paul Atreides, we gift you this ghola of your good friend Duncan, I present to you, 2NE MESSIAH CHILDREN OF DUN3 GOD EMPER4 OF DUNE HERETICS OF DUN5 Wafflecopper posted:Yeah I had a great time with it. I played as the spacer's guild and opened up by hotdropping a huge force onto Carthag which promptly got obliterated when it turned out the commander was in the Harkonnens' pocket. I recovered somewhat from that but despite being rich as gently caress (other players have to pay the guild every time they land troops from space), didn't have the manpower to dislodge the two strong alliances that were dominating the game. But I was able to bankroll two more-or-less elimated factions (including the Harkonnens) back into the game which were enough to stop any of the big players from achieving a victory condition before the final turn... and the spacer's guild wins if nobody else does by then Hell yeah I love the Spacing Guild in it.
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Neo Rasa posted:2NE MESSIAH CHAPTERH6USE: DUNE
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Payndz posted:Fast & Fremen. Duncan Hard 4.0
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