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CCKeane posted:Why plastic, here? Can you elaborate on why you want to specifically save Plastic in what is presumably a zero sum game? Plastic has 14 posts, the lowest post count. That's it.
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Plastic hasn’t posted much but I don’t see anything scummy in his posts
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wologar posted:Plastic has 14 posts, the lowest post count. That's it. But if plastic posts more, that would throw the explosion to another player, right? So why do you want to specifically save Plastic? Is your read that strong?
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Dec 2, 2022 19:30
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CCKeane posted:But if plastic posts more, that would throw the explosion to another player, right? You noticed I said the same thing to Hal and Maer, right? As of this post, the other two players with the lowest post counts are Illusionis and ANarc, which I'm happy voting for.
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Dec 2, 2022 19:32
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Illusionis isn’t giving off scummy vibes. I’d put them in my null category with a slight town lean
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Dec 2, 2022 19:34
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wologar posted:
wologar posted:Just remember not to be the one with the least votes at deadline! Are thesr the posts you are referencing? I see a comment to Hal, but I don't see anything to Maer. Did I miss it?
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Dec 2, 2022 19:37
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If anything, Maer and Hal are at risk of being exploded by post count.
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CCKeane posted:Are thesr the posts you are referencing? I see a comment to Hal, but I don't see anything to Maer. Did I miss it? Yep: Maerlyn posted:Pssh, I've never been lurkwarned and don't plan on starting now. wologar posted:I was referring to this: Maerlyn posted:ohhh well that could be exciting for someone!
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Dec 2, 2022 19:40
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wologar posted:I was referring to this: Do you feel that this is similar in tone to the direct post you made to Plastic?
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Dec 2, 2022 19:42
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CCKeane posted:Do you feel that this is similar in tone to the direct post you made to Plastic? Absolutely. What do you think of Hal, Maer and Plastic?
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Dec 2, 2022 19:42
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wologar posted:Absolutely. What do you think of Hal, Maer and Plastic? I think Hal is scum, I don't have a read on Maer of Plastic. I'm curious as to what gives you a strong enough read on Plastic to want to go out of your way to avoid a low post vig. Can you point out the posts you like?
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Dec 2, 2022 19:44
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CCKeane posted:I think Hal is scum, I don't have a read on Maer of Plastic. I'm curious as to what gives you a strong enough read on Plastic to want to go out of your way to avoid a low post vig. Can you point out the posts you like? What's making you think Hal is scum?
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CCKeane posted:I think Hal is scum, I don't have a read on Maer of Plastic. I'm curious as to what gives you a strong enough read on Plastic to want to go out of your way to avoid a low post vig. Can you point out the posts you like? I don't think he's had scummy posts this game. I've thought he was scum in all other games we've been in together, so I'm trying to remain unbiased here.
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Dec 2, 2022 19:47
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Illusionis posted:What's making you think Hal is scum? Vibes, obviously. I don't have a strong case, just like, feeling like Hals being poised while posting? IDK.
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wologar posted:I don't think he's had scummy posts this game. I've thought he was scum in all other games we've been in together, so I'm trying to remain unbiased here. But Plastic has very few posts this game, right? And most of those are very short, and many are irrelevant to the game. It's day one, that's fine, that's not necessarily scummy, but why is that sufficient to try to actively avoid plastic getting killed as a result of low post count?
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Like, materially, what's the difference between Plastic and Illusionis?
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CCKeane posted:Vibes, obviously. I don't have a strong case, just like, feeling like Hals being poised while posting? IDK. You could trust your vibes and vote him
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CCKeane posted:But Plastic has very few posts this game, right? And most of those are very short, and many are irrelevant to the game. It's day one, that's fine, that's not necessarily scummy, but why is that sufficient to try to actively avoid plastic getting killed as a result of low post count? You're reaching, Keane. You didn't complain at all when I said the same thing to Hal/Maer and they had as few posts then. Why your sudden interest right after I voted you?
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b-minus1 posted:You could trust your vibes and vote him Yeah sure. ##vote: Hal
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Dec 2, 2022 19:54
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CCKeane posted:Like, materially, what's the difference between Plastic and Illusionis? Vibes and what I said earlier regarding my past games with Plastic.
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wologar posted:You're reaching, Keane. You didn't complain at all when I said the same thing to Hal/Maer and they had as few posts then. Why your sudden interest right after I voted you? I feel like: wologar posted:That being said, Plastic, buddy, please post more. You're the one at risk of exploding now and we only have 27 hours left. Is substantially more emphatic and has a greater sense of urgency than you posts relating to Hal and Maer, which are much weaker, with your comment to Maer being nearly invisible - I certainly didn't capture your intention was to give a direct plea to Maer when I read your post history, and I don't think it feels the same as your plea to plastic. Importantly and relevantly, I can't see a major difference between Plastic and Illusionis in posts today, certainly not one that gives a strong preference, and I'd like to explore that.
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Dec 2, 2022 19:58
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CCKeane posted:I feel like: Probably because you're only reading my post history and not the thread, where me and Maer's interaction on the matter was obvious. I wonder why you weren't paying much attention to the thread?
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As an aside and out of curiosity, is the AA everybody is referring to Idle Amalgam, he had the same avatar as Salad for a while and I saw his name as Anomalous Amalgam in discord on another channel?
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wologar posted:That could be the case but as someone who always sees Plastic as scum, he seems fine this game so far. So this is the post you're referencing about plastic, right? But, again, I'm wondering where you're getting a strong read from, when Plastic has few posts. I guess where I'm hitting here is that it does seem really strange to me to be able to get a read on the two lowest post count players, to the point that you are willing to put effort toward one over the other. Vibes can be legit, for sure, but can you link posts of Illusionis' where you got pinged?
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wologar posted:Probably because you're only reading my post history and not the thread, where me and Maer's interaction on the matter was obvious. I wonder why you weren't paying much attention to the thread? Bluntly, because I frequently can only check the thread at limited times, and usually I just look to see if something is jumping out at me and then check post history to catch up otherwise. I frequently have limited internet access at work, and often I can't jump in the thread while it is going.
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CCKeane posted:So this is the post you're referencing about plastic, right? You are the only one talking about "strong reads". It's funny how you keep repeating that phrase as if to say later "hey guys, remember wologar's ~strong read~ on Plastic?" I don't think you're arguing this on good faith. So, allow me to channel my inner binus here: SCUM SHOOK.
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Man I went back and read it in context and I still don't think it was nearly as empathic as the post to Plastic.
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Feeling better about Mona on reading further posting, seems to be doing actual casing and seems similar to Song mafia ##unvote
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wologar posted:You are the only one talking about "strong reads". It's funny how you keep repeating that phrase as if to say later "hey guys, remember wologar's ~strong read~ on Plastic?" I don't think you're arguing this on good faith. Okay, so let's replace strong read with relative read, which is objective. You have a relatively townier read on Plastic than Illusions, let's explore that.
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Illusionis posted:Feeling better about Mona on reading further posting, seems to be doing actual casing and seems similar to Song mafia ##unvote Nice
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wologar posted:You are the only one talking about "strong reads". It's funny how you keep repeating that phrase as if to say later "hey guys, remember wologar's ~strong read~ on Plastic?" I don't think you're arguing this on good faith. 
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Alright, well, I think I'm voting wologar. Here's my logic:wologar posted:Friends! I have it on good authority that the crewmate with the least number of posts will EXPLODE the following day. So this feels like an active ability that wologar has. Maybe wologar can vig kill the lowest poster? Or something similar? Who knows! But I do think this is real. So who has this information, right? There's not a post from HCT. I didn't get a bomb warning in my PM. So I think wologar is trying to put a veil over an ability to add a layer of passivity to a quite possibly anti town event. If wologar does have this ability, then concealing information from town is harmful. Now the part that's getting me afterwards is the attempts to direct it - I'm was wondering what was happening there. I was fairly neutral in my original question: CCKeane posted:Why plastic, here? Can you elaborate on why you want to specifically save Plastic in what is presumably a zero sum game? And there's a lot of ways to answer that that are really reasonable - "I think Plastic is townier than Illusionis" IS a VERY reasonable answer, and it'd track with Wologars behavior up to this point. But Wologars answer was this: wologar posted:Plastic has 14 posts, the lowest post count. That's it. Which I responded to with: CCKeane posted:But if plastic posts more, that would throw the explosion to another player, right? And wologar followed up with: wologar posted:You noticed I said the same thing to Hal and Maer, right? As of this post, the other two players with the lowest post counts are Illusionis and ANarc, which I'm happy voting for. So NOW we get an argument that makes sense - and if wologar simply said this, I think I'd be satisfied! But the post here raises the question as to why wologar made the earlier "Plastic has 14 posts, the lowest post count, that's it." I can't track the logic of that response. And, the BIG one for me, is that wologar doesn't just say "Illusionis is scummier than Plastic in my opinion" - wologar tries to deflect it by saying wologar did the same thing earlier, with Hal and Maer. It doesn't track with me - I think those posts feel different, and I think it's also bringing up another situation to make this one look better. I think wologar is lying. ##vote: wologar
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wologar posted:I'd vote ANarc, Cloaca or Illusionis. Wolo you stated that his was a real post, what is your reasoning for linking me and AN together here?
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CCKeane posted:Alright, well, I think I'm voting wologar. Here's my logic: I'll let the jury decide.
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Illusionis posted:Wolo you stated that his was a real post, what is your reasoning for linking me and AN together here? I haven't linked you together besides being suspicious of both of you. If you're asking about "A narc's fate is sealed with illusions.", that's just a cute phrase to put you, ANarc and Cloaca in a single sentence.
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Keane I'm not really sure why you're pushing this angle on wolo. Was it strange that they directly told plastic to make more posts and not other people? Maybe. If they were both scum, that would go in scum chat. So I think what you're saying by voting wolo is that plastic is town, but the only reason is bc wolo said they should post more. I just think this whole thing is extremely manufactured and makes no sense. I'd vote keane
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wologar posted:I haven't linked you together besides being suspicious of both of you. If you're asking about "A narc's fate is sealed with illusions.", that's just a cute phrase to put you, ANarc and Cloaca in a single sentence. Oh that's what I was confused about too, why I asked if it was a joke post.
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I'm just not interested in keane, binus, or idk. I think binus encouraging wooloos read is weird. I think that binus is moving with a purpose I don't fully comprehend at this time and it's pinging me.
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wologar posted:I'll let the jury decide. Not guilty, your honor.
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Keane I'm not really sure why you're pushing this angle on wolo. Was it strange that they directly told plastic to make more posts and not other people? Maybe. If they were both scum, that would go in scum chat. So I think what you're saying by voting wolo is that plastic is town, but the only reason is bc wolo said they should post more. Wologar, when pressed, offered a nonsensical reason, then deflected by comparing a post to Maer and Hal, then declined to expand on reasons why Illusionis is scummier than Plastic. Plastics alignment is almost irrelevant here (if plastic were to flip scum, obvs thats something else) But the logic and response doesnt make sense to me, so I think wologar is scum. It's cool if people think I'm scum, I don't care about that, and everybody tends to want to execute me every game because I'm very annoying so eh. But I think a big thing is that town tend to have consistent logic and reasoning, even if that logic is "something hit me wrong on that post, and I can't explain it so I think they're scum". I pressed wologar on the logic laid out, and I'm not satisfied it was genuine. I'd ask folks to consider how they'd post if they were in Wologars position - wouldn't you lead with "Illusionis is scummier than Plastic?"
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:Ok here's my thoughts on D1 so far Not buying this claim I'm still convinced it was Keane
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