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saladscooper posted:"let's turbo bif" was a joke saladscooper posted:this is why i said we turbo bif this doesn't look like a joke to me. It feels like a "hahaha jk jk... unless...?" If I'm reading too much into it sure but that feels more like "shitpost casing" then "actual joke".
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idk. i haven't been super engaged with the game since yesterday afternoon cause of the aforementioned lovely work situation so i'm just vomiting words into the thread at this point.
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Dec 3, 2022 17:45
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##vote Maerlyn if we're gonna be choosing between keane and maerlyn maerlyn is by far the scummier of the two
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Dec 3, 2022 17:47
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Monathin posted:
Gonna be honest I skimmed that part of the thread and didn’t realize people were actually seriously claiming post count related vig. Now that I know that I urge all vig havers to shoot people, don’t be cowards
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Dec 3, 2022 17:48
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I do believe your lovely work situation, I'm not gonna press too hard on it because I have been there. But I did say I was going to make a case and this is where my conclusions landed. I think you're scummy but I do hope work poo poo clears up for you sooner rather than later, salad.
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Still don’t totally understand the mechanics of the vig powers but whatever just shoot!!!
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shwinnebego posted:Gonna be honest I skimmed that part of the thread and didn’t realize people were actually seriously claiming post count related vig. Now that I know that I urge all vig havers to shoot people, don’t be cowards PA's post seemed genuine and unless he himself wants to confirm it was just a jape I am going to take it as such.
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Dec 3, 2022 17:50
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Monathin’s case on salad is v bad in my view but I think monathin is a bit townier for having made it. I don’t think think scum shoots the moon with such a poo poo case
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Dec 3, 2022 17:51
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Monathin posted:PA's post seemed genuine and unless he himself wants to confirm it was just a jape I am going to take it as such. My impression of PA's posts is that he's town but on reflection I'm not actually sure why. There's a lot of short content dense contributions, drive-by reads, that kind of thing. But it's very under-the-radar style posting, which I'm suspicious of. PlasticAutomaton posted:Binus are you an N0 Ecco Cop or something Then there's poo poo like this which pings me really hard. Is it a joke? Is it serious? It leaves room to be either, and that is not good to me. Hell if we're gonna turbo someone why not turbo plastic
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Dec 3, 2022 17:54
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I really don’t understand why you guys aren’t voting keane. His wologar case was one of the most flimsy cases I’ve ever seen. Wologar was posting normal reads like anyone else and keane kept trying to gotcha him over nothing. Keane called hal scum during jokephase, said he would vote him, eventually did vote after I asked him why he wasn’t, and then immediately went after wologar. Keane needs to be the vote today and if he is scum, hal is almost certainly scum.
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Dec 3, 2022 17:56
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b-minus1 posted:I really don’t understand why you guys aren’t voting keane. His wologar case was one of the most flimsy cases I’ve ever seen. Wologar was posting normal reads like anyone else and keane kept trying to gotcha him over nothing. Keane called hal scum during jokephase, said he would vote him, eventually did vote after I asked him why he wasn’t, and then immediately went after wologar. Keane needs to be the vote today and if he is scum, hal is almost certainly scum. I believe, with all my heart, that town can make poo poo cases too. I'll vote on Keane vs Mae here in a bit if I need to, but I wanted to post my reads beforehand. Also Mae is at -3 at Keane at -4 so I want to at least hear them both out before deadline. We've still got time.
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Dec 3, 2022 17:59
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shwinnebego posted:Monathin’s case on salad is v bad in my view but I think monathin is a bit townier for having made it. I don’t think think scum shoots the moon with such a poo poo case Agreed
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Maerlyn does seem a bit aggressive in her posts, which comes off as scummy to me:Maerlyn posted:I'm sorry you rolled scum this time, I'd be bored too. Maerlyn posted:I refuse to believe you've never heard of hated/loved, don't lie like that shwinn 😣 Maerlyn posted:I'm just a normal human man, I'm rather handsome actually! I do find it strange that scum would claim VT that early, if only because the second they were caught doing any sort of night action, they'd be up for lunch. In favor of the scumMaerlyn case, that disengaged claim could definitely be read as an excuse for scumlurking. Maerlyn posted:I've never actually played with Monathin but I'm not seeing anything overtly scummy from him yet, so more null for now. Maerlyn posted:I'm sorry I reread your posts but didn't see a "going to take it easy this game" memo, I can't say I've ever seen you as a disengaged player. I also feel like that's a copout for what is essentially not even that much of a "case", more like an observation and agreement with others that you are coming across a little scummy. Again, Maerlyn going pretty aggressive after Yami's case on me. When I saw those posts, it actually came across as her trying to protect me, which is a bit weird on D1.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:01
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yeah mona the theory is just me thinking keane is town. I liked the stuff on mona and also cloac(?) i think that is keane but I didn't have strong feelings on wololo re the vig? I don't give a poo poo because there's no evidence of a vig and the players are being cagey as gently caress about their role afaik. I don't care if people have vigs or not vigs. whats interesting to me is the decision to claim it day one (and try and describe it's powers so that scum can escape the vig?) + people reacting by saying 'oh yeah third party killer or scum' with that kind of comment just passing from the collective memories of us all.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:02
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For what it’s worth, Maerlyn claimed a role to me private that makes me think she’s town. I admit there’s an outside chance that she’s scum, and tbh she was pinging my scumdar early in d1, but I don’t think she is the best choice for today. Keane has to be scum. When in doubt, go with the sure thing.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:02
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Yeah her case on Yami is what's giving me extra scumpings, whereas as I've said before Keane's on wolo is wrong but seems genuine and actually thought through. So there's that.
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Toalpaz posted:yeah mona the theory is just me thinking keane is town. I liked the stuff on mona and also cloac(?) i think that is keane but I didn't have strong feelings on wololo because blase 3rd party killer reads is a scum mind relic.
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Dec 3, 2022 18:03
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Cloacamazing! posted:My own theory on the wol situation right now is that he definitely has some sort of killing ability, which is not a vig, see exhibit A: like, 'yes i believe they're a killer but not for any of the reasons of the claim?"
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Dec 3, 2022 18:04
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Toal I think that is a misread of what cloaca said. My understanding was cloaca was just pointing out a role that can kill is NAI in a role madness game, which is true. I don't think she ever claimed that means 3rd party (which, I agree, would be a scummind thing to post)
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b-minus1 posted:For what it’s worth, Maerlyn claimed a role to me private that makes me think she’s town. I admit there’s an outside chance that she’s scum, and tbh she was pinging my scumdar early in d1, but I don’t think she is the best choice for today. Keane has to be scum. When in doubt, go with the sure thing. yeah I dont know if claiming vt d1 in role madness is very town or scum leaning. it's mostly unhelpful survivalist posting.
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b-minus1 posted:I really don’t understand why you guys aren’t voting keane. His wologar case was one of the most flimsy cases I’ve ever seen. Wologar was posting normal reads like anyone else and keane kept trying to gotcha him over nothing. Keane called hal scum during jokephase, said he would vote him, eventually did vote after I asked him why he wasn’t, and then immediately went after wologar. Keane needs to be the vote today and if he is scum, hal is almost certainly scum. If you're that certain about Keane and that chain link, why not go for Hal first, that post of his was dodgy. Seriously you can reread AN's whole postcount in literally one minute, tell me what Hal's on about with "appreciating her joking around" or whatever. He was either defending AN as a scumbud or whiteknighting a town AN for reasons that make no sense.
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b-minus1 posted:For what it’s worth, Maerlyn claimed a role to me private that makes me think she’s town. I admit there’s an outside chance that she’s scum, and tbh she was pinging my scumdar early in d1, but I don’t think she is the best choice for today. Keane has to be scum. When in doubt, go with the sure thing. Oh well this changes things a little. ##unvote I don't really wanna go for Keane but I'll swing there to avoid a no lunch if need be
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Bifauxnen posted:If you're that certain about Keane and that chain link, why not go for Hal first, that post of his was dodgy. Seriously you can reread AN's whole postcount in literally one minute, tell me what Hal's on about with "appreciating her joking around" or whatever. Def still more comfy with an ANarc or Plastic or hell, even Hal (he is voting me the bastard!!!) vote
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b-minus1 posted:For what it’s worth, Maerlyn claimed a role to me private that makes me think she’s town. I admit there’s an outside chance that she’s scum, and tbh she was pinging my scumdar early in d1, but I don’t think she is the best choice for today. Keane has to be scum. When in doubt, go with the sure thing. b-minus1 posted:are you seriously claiming to be vt? Do not lie about this. Maerlyn posted:Yes, perhaps I got "somber"ed (vanilla in a role madness game) but I would never lie to you b! Oh word?
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Yeah I'm reading Maerlyn as town cause while I was just chilling out, she was starting up the exact same kind of slapfight with Yami that she normally gets into with me instead. But I don't think Keane is a good alternative to her at all.
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On the Keane case, that wol case of his is weird, I agree. Especially because of this:wologar posted:Wait, are you implying that I wanted to save Plastic because we're both scum? CCKeane posted:No. Keane has been accusing wol of being scum because he's trying to protect Plastic for pages now, but he doesn't think both of them are scum? If that's not the case, why is wol protecting Plastic an issue? And honestly, the whole "wol is protecting Plastic" thing seems a bit out of left field. wologar posted:Friends! I have it on good authority that the crewmate with the least number of posts will EXPLODE the following day. wologar posted:
wologar posted:Just remember not to be the one with the least votes at deadline! wologar posted:I was referring to this: wologar posted:That could be the case but as someone who always sees Plastic as scum, he seems fine this game so far. wologar posted:That being said, Plastic, buddy, please post more. You're the one at risk of exploding now and we only have 27 hours left. I don't see how this last post is somehow more "keeping Plastic safe" than the earlier part where wol pointed out the same for Maer and Hal.
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If anything, Maer and Hal are at risk of being exploded by post count.
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b-minus1 posted:this interaction is stinky: b-minus1 posted:It was a textbook omgus imo b- is, once again, doing his thing where he accuses me of being scum and just says that a lot and hopes people will listen, which is of course absolutely brilliant thanks to the illusionary truth effect. That said, please look at this as well - b- accuses me of not interacting with him despite calling me scum, and then accuses me of OMGUSing wologar, saying that I only interacted because he called me scum. I can't win with b-.
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Actually, now that I think about it, the Keane case really makes no sense with wol's posts here:wologar posted:That could be the case but as someone who always sees Plastic as scum, he seems fine this game so far. wologar posted:That being said, Plastic, buddy, please post more. You're the one at risk of exploding now and we only have 27 hours left. CCKeane posted:So who has this information, right? There's not a post from HCT. I didn't get a bomb warning in my PM. So I think wologar is trying to put a veil over an ability to add a layer of passivity to a quite possibly anti town event. If wologar does have this ability, then concealing information from town is harmful. Just before the warning, wologar had explicitly stated that he sees Plastic as town, and he has also said that he would vote Illu: wologar posted:I'd vote ANarc, Cloaca or Illusionis. So that's the exact explanation that Keane keeps claiming is missing.
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CCKeane posted:b- is, once again, doing his thing where he accuses me of being scum and just says that a lot and hopes people will listen, which is of course absolutely brilliant thanks to the illusionary truth effect. Right ok but are you calling this dumb or scum
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Cloacamazing! posted:On the Keane case, that wol case of his is weird, I agree. Especially because of this: People seem to be very confused about my case, so I will lay it out here, and people can pick the points they disagree with.: -Town is interested in executing scum and have reasons to think/change their mind on alignments. This can always be openly discussed. -Scum are interested in not executing their teammates. This cannot be openly discussed, so they have to conceal motives/attempt to take actions that garner good vibes. Scum CANNOT openly and truthly discuss the reasons for changing their minds/unusual actions, so they have to manufacture them. -Wologar took an action to protect Plastic over Illusionis. When pressed, wologar's points didn't seem consistent with what I'd expect town to do, and wologar has been generally cagey about the nature of the low post count killing. -The reason I think Wologar is scum is because wologar's reasons for choosing plastic over illusionis aren't explained well, and it took a while to get to "I think Illusionis is scummier than Plastic.". When pressed for why Illusionis is scummier than Plastic, wologar deflected, underexplained, and declined. -Plastic's alignment is irrelevant to my case - the lack of explanation/seeming manufactured nature of wologar's arguments are why I think wologar is scum. Plastic could be town scum wologar thinks would be easier to manipulate! Who knows!
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But why is scumwologar interested in protecting Plastic-with-unknown-alignment openly and to the exclusion of other players? This is the part that I don't understand.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Actually, now that I think about it, the Keane case really makes no sense with wol's posts here: Right, and if wologar said "Plastic is townier than Illusionis" right out of the gate, that'd be whatever, like I said several times. What wologar did say when pressed was: wologar posted:Plastic has 14 posts, the lowest post count. That's it. Followed by: wologar posted:You noticed I said the same thing to Hal and Maer, right? As of this post, the other two players with the lowest post counts are Illusionis and ANarc, which I'm happy voting for. If you were town, and somebody asked you why you pressed Plastic to post more, what would you say right away? Would it be "Plastic has a low post count" followed by "I've warned other people about low post counts?"
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Cloacamazing! posted:But why is scumwologar interested in protecting Plastic-with-unknown-alignment openly and to the exclusion of other players? This is the part that I don't understand. CCKeane posted:People seem to be very confused about my case, so I will lay it out here, and people can pick the points they disagree with.: Last point.
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Bifauxnen posted:Right ok but are you calling this dumb or scum Honestly I am just annoyed and feel like I can't win with b-, we can politely say it's differing styles and philosophy. I don't think b-'s arguments hold water, though - and I think highlighting that I am simultaneously scummy for not interacting with a player voting me, and also, scummy for interacting with somebody voting on me is relevant for showing it's a bad case.
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Bifauxnen posted:Yeah I'm reading Maerlyn as town cause while I was just chilling out, she was starting up the exact same kind of slapfight with Yami that she normally gets into with me instead. I know I'm going to get a lot of flak for this given my track record in Song 2, but we should vote someone who isn't those two, imo
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Cloacamazing! posted:But why is scumwologar interested in protecting Plastic-with-unknown-alignment openly and to the exclusion of other players? This is the part that I don't understand. Okay, I think I actually see where we're missing each other. So plastic COULD be scum, right? But I don't really think there's a strong link, and I don't think Plastic's alignment is a strong component to how I personally view this. I don't really have a read on plastic. That doesn't mean "I think Plastic is town and wologar is scum"
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Put in other words - If right now HCT came in an said "Plastic is mod confirmed town" I would still be voting wologar for the posts around it.
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So basically my approach to scum hunting is finding folks who can't explain/don't adequately explain their thoughts and process. And I do think wologar hits this - in particular, there's little explanation for why Plastic is townier than Illusionis, townier by enough of a margin to throw Illusionis to the wolves to save Plastic.
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Anyway, 4 hours to spare so! I'm a psychic frog and I can message people. I messaged Wologar, bif, and Maerlyn today. I used my power only for mischief and tomfoolery. During the night, I can used them for scum hunting, but, you know, it's funny to trick wologar into posting a poem and bif into making fart jokes.
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CCKeane posted:Anyway, 4 hours to spare so! See this is what I mean when I say "weird mechanics" mona Keane, is there an actual difference between how your power is used during the day vs. at night?
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