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MacheteZombie posted:Evil dead 1 is closer to ed13 than ed2. Ed1 is mean as gently caress Probably has something to do with why my rating is ED2 > AoD > ED2013 > ED1 Evil Dead is really a couple of duologies at this point. You have the legit horror side with a bit of absurd humor and then you have the zany side with action and horror trappings. That's cool. There's nothing wrong with liking one over the other, but I like the ED2/AoD side more than the ED2013/ED1 side, and Rise looks like it's firmly in that second tradition. Poor poor me, but there's an audience for it.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Yeah it peaked a while back. I couldn't really get through that blacklist script one, the unbearable weight of talent whatever whatever. the difference is one is a way better talent than the other
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Hey this Renfield movie look fun-- oh Awkwafina nvmBonoMan posted:Spoilers for the reveal in that trailer:
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Man, the second half, after Renfield eats the bug and gets super powers ruined it for me. It seemed like a neat little dark comedy (even if it's aping a bit of Guillermo's scenes from What we Do In the Shadows).
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FilthyImp posted:Hey this Renfield movie look fun-- oh Awkwafina nvm I literally said not that I don't want him movies, just that the novelty of "oh hey it's nic cage lol!" gimmick has worn off.
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Now I want to see Cage and Keanu in a movie together.
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AceOfFlames posted:Now I want to see Cage and Keanu in a movie together. John Wick: Face Off 2!
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BonoMan posted:I literally said Oh look it's Jim Carrey/Jack Nicholson/The Rock. And at the very least it's not another cardboard generic dude in a film being mediocre.
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah but some actors just kind of have *that*. Yeah, a Nic Cage movie isn't always good, but a Nic Cage performance is always interesting, which is more than you can say for a lot of actors. So I'll always welcome him.
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Snooze Cruise posted:the difference is one is a way better talent than the other
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FilthyImp posted:Yeah but some actors just kind of have *that*. I am not tired of Nic Cage. This has nothing to do with him or his performances. More of the marketing of him since his revival has really seemed to lean into "Bet you didn't expect.... NIC CAGE!" and I feel like the shine of that gimmick has worn off.
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As long as Cage makes a Pig every once in a while I'm willing to accept however many ridiculous "I'm Nic Cage" movies he wants to do.
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Oh yeah I def don't want him to go away. Maybe just be more selective? Is he still paying off houses???
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BonoMan posted:More of the marketing of him since his revival has really seemed to lean into "Bet you didn't expect.... NIC CAGE!" and I feel like the shine of that gimmick has worn off. Other than the Massive Talent movie and Renfield's marketing, what else has done this? What even counts as the Nic Cage revival anyway? A quick scan of his filmography shows he's gotten around one good movie in a year since 2013. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jan 5, 2023 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I literally watch Evil Dead 2 every year so put this condescending attitude in the trash, please. Yeah I said evil dead not evil dead 2 homie
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MacheteZombie posted:Evil dead 1 is closer to ed13 than ed2. Ed1 is mean as gently caress This is what I was getting at. I think evil dead the franchise is not just silly slapstick and Bruce Campbell being goofy. There’s more to it and I think people miss it. Even Evil Dead 2 has moments of hosed up horror moments that aren’t comedic
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Other than the Massive Talent movie and Renfield's marketing, what else has done this? I think everything since Mandy is the current Nic Cage revival. And I don't know, I'm not currently in a place to go review the marketing material so it could just be a feeling I'm misplacing. But it feels like since Mandy, every discussion about a Nic Cage film has been draped in this Nicolas Cage Renaissance cape talk and the reveal in that trailer feels very "SEEEE! It's NIC CAGE!" and I'm just like "ok... done with that." https://www.google.com/search?q=nicolas+cage+renaissance&oq=nic+cage+renai&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i10i22i30.2824j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Other than the Massive Talent movie and Renfield's marketing, what else has done this? Yeah at this point he's just a Hollywood institution. He's been the most favored crazy guy for decades
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I mean, wasn't it kind of the same when Travolta did Pulp Fiction and suddenly people remembered he could be good? Maybe it's a shade of personal bias at being burned out with his films, since he financially needed to take on a lot of work in recent times? Maybe I'm also nonplussed because the Renfield trailer's thumbnail has Nick Cage above Hoult so it's less of a 'oh poo poo Nic Cage' and more 'heh Nick Cage as Dracula'
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Btw I'm not trying to be rude to the OP regarding the Nic Cage thing, I do agree he's overexposed sometimes but, for instance, I remembered his big old forehead on a Bangkok Dangerous billboard and I looked it up...that's from 2008, lol. 15 years ago. At this point he's been around forever, there's probably 15 movies with posters of Nic Cage wearing a nice suit with dark tie staring intensely into the camera with names like "The Mourning" or "A Father Too Far" so Cage Fatigue is definitely a thing. I'm not debating that at all. But I've just never got the "Surprise! It's Nic Cage!" thing.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Btw I'm not trying to be rude to the OP regarding the Nic Cage thing, I do agree he's overexposed sometimes but, for instance, I remembered his big old forehead on a Bangkok Dangerous billboard and I looked it up...that's from 2008, lol. 15 years ago. I didn't think you were being rude at all. And yes Nic Cage has been around forever, but he definitely dipped into "not even kind of fun" lovely movies for a while (where Bruce Willis - even pre-illness - and Travolta etc still reside). With Mandy he re-emerged into the "actually this is kind of good-good not just bad-but-fun-good" ethos. Since then I feel like every movie with Nic Cage is couched in the "wow I'm loving this Nic Cage renaissance!" discussion (hence that link I posted earlier) and *that* is the part that has gotten tiring for me. As for this latest trailer I wasn't saying that there are literally lots of "surprise it's Nic Cage!" twists in his trailers. Just that that particular reveal felt like it was playing right into the over-baked Nic Cage Renaissance stuff I refer in the sentence above. "Hey we know you love Nic Cage so how about WACKY DRACULA NIC CAGE!" But it's whatev. I love Nic Cage for what it's worth and actually do love the resurgence he's having. I just thought that reveal was groan worthy. And lastly, this isn't even a big deal lol. I feel like my attempt to overexplain it made it seemed like I care much more about it then I really do! So, in conclusion: Have some Nic Cage Trick Shots! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4jNjASp5m4
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BonoMan posted:And lastly, this isn't even a big deal lol. I feel like my attempt to overexplain it made it seemed like I care much more about it then I really do! Curse of the Internet, my friend!
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The first film in the "nic cage owns" Renaissance was Bad Lieutenant, not Mandy
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Bad Lieutenant rules, but there’s a pretty long gap between it and this recent batch of good movies.
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During that time, he was often putting in performances that were being praised, even in exceedingly negative reviews - case in point Ebert having a right go at Kick-rear end, but taking the time to praise his performance. I guess if there's one thing that we should be able to agree on is that he never half-assed it, even during the years where his movies were treated as a joke.
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Bugblatter posted:Bad Lieutenant rules, but there’s a pretty long gap between it and this recent batch of good movies. Not really? Mom and Dad and Mandy were just 2 years later
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Cage is an enormous comic nerd so the idea of him doing Kick-rear end just for like a paycheck or not giving a gently caress is hilarious to me. Yeah poo poo God bad for him with his money problems there.
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precision posted:Not really? Mom and Dad and Mandy were just 2 years later  
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There are a few movies looking back in the gap between these (Joe, Drive Angry) that are worth revisiting but yeah it was a solid half-decade where 95% of his output was poo poo. The “paying back the IRS” years. He’s both able to be more discerning and his rep has had a reevaluation in the time since then?
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Check out some nic cage clips from Vampires kiss. I want all of that energy in this new one.
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Full trailer for Netflix's "You People." It's just as trope-y as I thought it would be, but it does have a stacked cast so... mayyybe it'll be at least a little funny? Probably not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCMHc-IFAB0&t=1s
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I was sold the minute Cage said his portrayal of Dracula was mainly influenced by Gabriel in Malignant. Nothing in the trailer made me laugh though. 
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The Trust with Elijah Wood was a good movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLspHA8m6Ac
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You know now that the Evil Dead Rise trailer finally dropped there's only one question that remains: where the gently caress is the Toxic Avenger remake trailer? 
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I didn’t even realize it was Nicolas cage I was just amazed that they found a guy who looked like the Christopher Lee Dracula from some angles and was wondering who it was
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BonoMan posted:Full trailer for Netflix's "You People." Eddie Murphy's character seems pretty anti-semittic.
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Alhazred posted:Eddie Murphy's character seems pretty anti-semittic. A black anti-semite? Seems farfetched.
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