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Regrettable posted:P sure he's just saying that the AI has been so bad for several years that it's shocking that they now react like AI in any other shooter due to a game/server update. Its literally this folks
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The river odai in morrowind is prettier
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There is an consideration that when a server has low fps for server, somehow, AI is impacted. This is the difference between a bartender working, or not working. Or it apparently could also mean an ai shooting you and just standing there waiting to be killed and non-responsive. It's yet another of a myriad of ways that prevent cig from taking any blame. If you game is bad, it must have been on a full server with low fps (whatever that is supposed to imply). It's technology's fault for failing Chris Roberts and not keeping up with his needs.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:All our friends are just off screen, playing it too
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I don't think the AI is even reacting to being shot. It looks like it goes "attack player", moves to position, waits a given delay before it starts shooting to emulate a reasonable reaction time, and then shoots. There isn't anything wi with this, but it's like the most basic behavior any fps game will start from.
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Elukka posted:I don't think the AI is even reacting to being shot. It looks like it goes "attack player", moves to position, waits a given delay before it starts shooting to emulate a reasonable reaction time, and then shoots. There isn't anything wi with this, but it's like the most basic behavior any fps game will start from. sounds like tier 0, and an improvement over "AI stands there being shot"
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Okay these people literally have not played a video game have they
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Next they'll add fish you can "catch" and "cook" for "nourishment." Fishing gear for $35, several different kits, all separate.
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Plan R posted:Next they'll add fish you can "catch" and "cook" for "nourishment." Fishing gear you can buy: Yes yes yes!!! The code for actually fishing: Not this decade, space friend. But still buy the gear in preparation because it will only get more valuable with time!
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Have you considered how good this game would be if it was really really good? Like really good? No, better than what you are thinking right now. That good! That would be so amazing. (Sighs happily)
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sebmojo posted:Have you considered how good this game would be if it was really really good? Like really good? No, better than what you are thinking right now. That good! Yeah thar worldwide server meshing, with everyone having tne same ping, that alone would be amazing. Wonderbar
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sebmojo posted:Have you considered how good this game would be if it was really really good? Like really good? No, better than what you are thinking right now. That good!  NTAR CITIZEN
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Regrettable posted:I think he means the tick rate of the servers are 30Hz, which means they update 30 times per second. He probably conflates the two because 30fps means you are rendering at 30Hz. 30Hz tick rate is average for an FPS game but some of them will use 60Hz tick rates. Also, I would not be surprised if Star Citizen ran tons of stuff server side that any reasonable developer would run client side like possibly AI duders. Ai enemy behaviors should probably be server side in a mmo so you can have a coherent multiplayer fight.
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Tunicate posted:Ai enemy behaviors should probably be server side in a mmo so you can have a coherent multiplayer fight. Yeah but how likely is that to happen
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Tunicate posted:Ai enemy behaviors should probably be server side in a mmo so you can have a coherent multiplayer fight. What cig sold to people was thousands of players playing twitch style shooters where people can play cod while also shooting at DCS-quality ships with intense flight dynamics where every shot is physically calculated on what it hits and how it travels through the body of a ship hitting different systems. After over a decade they still aren't even up to a fortnight match in scale and quality, and ships have "model viewer" level physics. Early days though. Any day those pipelines will kick into overdrive. Any day.
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This could be a screenshot in ARMA 3.
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Doctor Butts posted:This could be a screenshot in ARMA 3. But with not even 1/10000th of the functionality that ARMA brings with those looks.
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It is really funny (and extremely sad) how a huge part of the "gameplay" promised and these people are salivating over is just doing extremely mundane poo poo. Taking a selfie with some friends by a river is exciting to these people.
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Geisladisk posted:It is really funny (and extremely sad) how a huge part of the "gameplay" promised and these people are salivating over is just doing extremely mundane poo poo. Except you can't do it, or even that pose, at all. It's all made in a modeler and then rendered into (maybe) a screenshot from the game as the background image. You can take screenshots though. That's kind of the best part of the game. It looks best in static, non-moving screenshots. Once it starts to move it breaks the illusion of quality super fast.
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I like how insistence cig seem to be at working on anything on starcitizen other than what would make the game engine work properly, or the game enjoyable to play. Like there seems to be some actually effort put into some stuff, but always like just really, really dumb meaningless bs stuff. Oh and making poo poo to sell to the rich idiots who keep on tossing them coin. I like how the people playing it, actually seem to be defending CIG going off and making a single player game on a MMO engine that isn't even close to finished yet. It's just such an obviously hilariously stupid move, but it just seems to get praise.
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If they admit to themselves that things look bad and the game is a scam then that would mean that they got scammed, which is impossible. These are Smart, Rational Men, not stupid idiots! And because they're Smart and Rational they would never fall for a scam, thus Star citizen is real, and strong, and their friend.
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dr_rat posted:I like how insistence cig seem to be at working on anything on starcitizen other than what would make the game engine work properly, or the game enjoyable to play. I'm still partially convinced that this entire crusade by CIG is a massive social experiment, to see exactly how little can be promised and then not even attempted, to people and have them still part with their hard earned money in droves
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Blue On Blue posted:I'm still partially convinced that this entire crusade by CIG is a massive social experiment, to see exactly how little can be promised and then not even attempted, to people and have them still part with their hard earned money in droves No, what you describe is just capitalism having a normal one.
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Geisladisk posted:It is really funny (and extremely sad) how a huge part of the "gameplay" promised and these people are salivating over is just doing extremely mundane poo poo. Perhaps, deep down, they are excited about the idea of having friends. 
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Speed Limit posted:Why do ships have a sublight speed limit? Such as the 600i can only go around 953ms but the Carrack can reach just under 1200ms. If you need to limit yourself you can always scroll down on your mouse. But in space why not just let it fly as fast as time will allow you? Be nice for targets that have no QT ability. quote:safe operating speed. IFCS does not allow you to accelerate further than you can safely travel without your ship flying apart and/or turning your self into goo. You can argue that should should be able to override IFCS and allow you to fly your ship apart and turn yourself into goo, then the answer is "because videogame" quote:
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Ah yes, space. Where you famously need to expend *exponentially* more energy if you want to continue to accelerate.
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Well there is the opposite force of concern trolling
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Regrettable posted:I think he means the tick rate of the servers are 30Hz, which means they update 30 times per second. He probably conflates the two because 30fps means you are rendering at 30Hz. 30Hz tick rate is average for an FPS game but some of them will use 60Hz tick rates. Also, I would not be surprised if Star Citizen ran tons of stuff server side that any reasonable developer would run client side like possibly AI duders. Last I checked, competitive shooters are using 120hz tick rate
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Vic posted:Well there is the opposite force of concern trolling Apathy effortposting?
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Steadiman posted:I've always said booleans need a "maybe" output, this will unlock the true potential of AI we need Magic 8 Bits that can have states like "yes", "no", "signs point to yes" and "reply hazy try again"
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Last I checked, competitive shooters are using 120hz tick rate AFAIK only Valorant goes that high with 128Hz servers but there are third party CS:GO servers that will do 128Hz. Most use anywhere from 30-60ish. Hell, Apex Legends uses 20Hz servers.
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Flowers for QAnon posted:Last I checked, competitive shooters are using 120hz tick rate Battlefield 4 was 120hz on 48 player servers, even 144hz for 20 players, nearly a decade ago. Or in Star Citizens terms, "before development actually started" 
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Biplane posted:If they admit to themselves that things look bad and the game is a scam then that would mean that they got scammed, which is impossible. These are Smart, Rational Men, not stupid idiots! And because they're Smart and Rational they would never fall for a scam, thus Star citizen is real, and strong, and their friend. This worked super well when it was established during the us vs them war where the strong believers had to believe strongly enough to prove Derek smart and goons wrong. Over a decade later, Derek has given up and only a few goons care... but so far what was never going to happen still hasn't happened. Cig only moved the goalposts or made something completely different and created the "tier 0" concept to let people accept the total reality distortion and failure to deliver.
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Some exciting hi lights that were promised, sold to people, but will never happen: * A full on command and conquer game played with real players where the elite rich can direct them from the bridge of their space ships, called command and control * A flocking procedural fauna with hunting and skinning and trapping and selling these unique items in your player business location you built in a player city on some random planet * A moddable hosted multiplayer game where you can run your own server for buddies * No subscriptions * Not pay to win * 50-mission Sq404 * Sq404 mission disk "behind enemy lines", whatever this means * cock decorations * Modding tools * 70 star systems * tablet companion app to do inventory, etc, while playing the game on your bigger pc * Bengal carrier is fully operational and can be owned and flown by players in star citizen * Oculous rift support * Land on real Earth cities * public space transportation (space liners between planets, etc, players can ride) * super complicated repair system and the crucible * pets (not just the fish) * and of course, actually being an mmo where you have a point to "own" a fleet of ships and can get into fleet fights with other players
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The Titanic posted:Some exciting hi lights that were promised, sold to people, but will never happen: According to monocle cat all of this "will" happen, which is just as good as happening right now.
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The Titanic posted:Some exciting hi lights that were promised, sold to people, but will never happen: Behind enemy lines is Chris harkening back to his only success, when his wing commander games would have 'mission disks' and poo poo as their way of doing expansions to the game but with a tongue in cheek 'lore' reason
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And outside of the procedural birds and player city... all that nonsense was just Kickstarter promises cig claimed they could do with a mere fraction of how much money they have now. It got more crazy with more time and every episode of 10 for the chairman where Chris just pissed promises he had no way of upholding to people with wide open mouths. The fun part of all of this stuff is new backers want to forget this stuff, and if old backers complain about these goals or ask about them, they are detractors and shut down. The joy of star citizen is pretending a year ago was day 0 of the project and counting from there. This works good for new money because they bought in due to the new promises and want cig to focus on the stuff they want instead of old things before them. It's a great cycle that keeps new money rolling in, and old people exiting by force from the community itself once they start to ask "hey, wait.. what about <my promise I bought in for>???"
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The Titanic posted:And outside of the procedural birds and player city... all that nonsense was just Kickstarter promises cig claimed they could do with a mere fraction of how much money they have now. helmet helmet HELMET! this will take everyone back, the nostalgia and incompetence on display Chris huming and hawing and making strangled noises when poo poo doesn't work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqFCAAipwcg
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