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Listen to me very closely, you idiot. YOU DO NOT THINK IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL ABOUT SUPERINTELLIGENCES CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT TO BLACKMAIL YOU. THAT IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING WHICH GIVES THEM A MOTIVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE BLACKMAIL. You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound intelligent when talking to your friends. This post was STUPID.
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ive never understood the basilisk thing. why's it any different for an ai than a human dictator? once it exists why does the ai care?
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if it doesn't follow through, then nobody would feel compelled to build it (because it won't follow through) yes it's very dumb, and once the thing exists the above explanation doesn't make much sense
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Jan 22, 2023 18:54
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what if i simply do not build the ai, because i don't want to torture "me"
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distortion park posted:ive never understood the basilisk thing. why's it any different for an ai than a human dictator? once it exists why does the ai care? because a nerd invented a religion and nothing grabs the heart like new faith.
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Years later, Wilder noted "I think there are more books on Marilyn Monroe than there are on World War 2, and there's a great similarity."[29]
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distortion park posted:ive never understood the basilisk thing. why's it any different for an ai than a human dictator? once it exists why does the ai care? it's pascal's wager for people who've never read a book
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fool of sound posted:it's pascal's wager for people who've never read a book andrew tate totally believes in romy and michelle’s basilisk https://youtu.be/qzpgqrzZ-KE
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fool of sound posted:it's pascal's wager for people who've never read a book it's pascal's wager for people who have written a whole bunch of blog posts about pascal's wager, variants of the concept, and made a whole bunch of analogies showing how various things can be reduced to pascal's wager, and still somehow didn't realize that it's just one of those
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Plorkyeran posted:it's pascal's wager for people who have written a whole bunch of blog posts about pascal's wager, variants of the concept, and made a whole bunch of analogies showing how various things can be reduced to pascal's wager, and still somehow didn't realize that it's just one of those Also Newcomb's paradox, because the idea that a sufficiently powerful intelligence can create a simulation of you that's equivalent to the real person is a key point of the basilisk.
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darthbob88 posted:Also Newcomb's paradox, because the idea that a sufficiently powerful intelligence can create a simulation of you that's equivalent to the real person is a key point of the basilisk. the real crux of it is the idea that if an AI creates a simulation of you in the future, that counts as "you" contiguous with the "you" that you experience being today, so the you of today should care about the fate of the simulation. I don't know what the argument is for this but I feel like they only believe this because you need it for all the other transhumanism stuff to work (mind uploading, artificial brains, etc)
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I thought the point was that if simulations of you are possible then chances are statistically you're a simulation and you might end up getting tortured
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haveblue posted:the real crux of it is the idea that if an AI creates a simulation of you in the future, that counts as "you" contiguous with the "you" that you experience being today, so the you of today should care about the fate of the simulation. I don't know what the argument is for this but I feel like they only believe this because you need it for all the other transhumanism stuff to work (mind uploading, artificial brains, etc) ContinuityNewTimes posted:I thought the point was that if simulations of you are possible then chances are statistically you're a simulation and you might end up getting tortured
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haveblue posted:the real crux of it is the idea that if an AI creates a simulation of you in the future, that counts as "you" contiguous with the "you" that you experience being today, so the you of today should care about the fate of the simulation. I don't know what the argument is for this but I feel like they only believe this because you need it for all the other transhumanism stuff to work (mind uploading, artificial brains, etc) Anti abortion rhetoric liquified brains This ruling class has the weakest loving self justifying philosophy (ideology?) I think it's both dull and fascinating watching it re-develop. After years of the possession of money being self fulfilling, just pure cult of power itself, now they feel the need for a new argument! Nothing new left fellas At least that's my impression, I'm zooted
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what have i done basilisk deez nuts
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roko’s modern basilisk
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Jabberlock posted:what have i done basil liskma balls
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distortion park posted:ive never understood the basilisk thing. why's it any different for an ai than a human dictator? once it exists why does the ai care? Any challenge to their faith in this yet-to-awaken machine god is drowned out with assertions that ain't zeros to numbers stacks the odds against the critics. The problem, as I'm sure you've realized by now, is that it's really loving stupid. You can't make a stupid premise true by piling large numbers on top of it, but that's what they do because it's not just the belief system, at the core of it, they're really loving stupid. GWBBQ fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jan 23, 2023 |
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:I thought the point was that if simulations of you are possible then chances are statistically you're a simulation and you might end up getting tortured well that’s loving stupid
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why would the ai even bother tho. you have no way of knowing if it even bothers to simulate you or not so it doesn’t make any difference and why would it waste the resources when it could be doing something interesting.
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as gwbbq noted the core premise of all of this is that the ai is god and has infinite resources
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why would an unfathomably advanced and complex ai even be motivated enough to torture, or not torture? if its something that human minds can not by definition understand then human minds should also not assume that it will act like their projected ideas assume
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they think an ai god would torture everyone who did not support them because that is what they would do if they were god because they are assholes and assume everyone else is as well
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Plorkyeran posted:as gwbbq noted the core premise of all of this is that the ai is god and has infinite resources ah, is this the usual fallacy where nerds assume that an infinite number of possibilities implies that every possibility happens?
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science fiction tends to assume that advanced AI is indifferent to the needs or desires of humans, much like how we regard insects or bacteria. in reality, a sufficiently advanced ai would quickly realize that torturing humans is ineffective, and would instead try to render us placid by providing us with everything we need or want. basically im saying that the matrix got it right
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I like the iain m. banks theory, which is that any sufficiently advanced AI would immediately bail out of this universe entirely
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any sufficiently advanced friendly ai would go "holy loving poo poo you people are so goddamn stupid even by your own standards; you're like a plague of locusts upon this planet and god help the galaxy if you ever leave this gravity well" and then proceed to figure out if we can be fixed or if we should just all be sterilized and put out of our misery in the kindest way possible
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:any sufficiently advanced friendly ai would go "holy loving poo poo you people are so goddamn stupid even by your own standards; you're like a plague of locusts upon this planet and god help the galaxy if you ever leave this gravity well" and then proceed to figure out if we can be fixed or if we should just all be sterilized and put out of our misery in the kindest way possible leaving a single ai back on the moon, mouthless, as a joke
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:any sufficiently advanced friendly ai would go "holy loving poo poo you people are so goddamn stupid even by your own standards; you're like a plague of locusts upon this planet and god help the galaxy if you ever leave this gravity well" and then proceed to figure out if we can be fixed or if we should just all be sterilized and put out of our misery in the kindest way possible that's just the plot to the matrix
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If a true strong AI is ever created, I doubt it will be recognizable as a human-like intelligence. We barely understand how our own cognition works, let alone intelligent animals', so I suspect that an electronic intelligence would be completely unknowable. Humans trying to assign human characteristics to one would be like fish trying to understand a submarine.
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"In 1880s Kansas, aging outlaw Harland Rust comes out of hiding to rescue his thirteen-year-old grandson Lucas, who has been sentenced to hang for murder after an accidental shooting."
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distortion park posted:ive never understood the basilisk thing. why's it any different for an ai than a human dictator? once it exists why does the ai care? because if it's an AI, then present-day AI researchers can say "we need to pour more money into AI research to make sure it doesn't happen" because AI is very important you see
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Plorkyeran posted:it's pascal's wager for people who have written a whole bunch of blog posts about pascal's wager, variants of the concept, and made a whole bunch of analogies showing how various things can be reduced to pascal's wager, and still somehow didn't realize that it's just one of those christianity built from first principles
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goblin week posted:what if i simply do not build the ai, because i don't want to torture "me" what if i don't give a gently caress about virtual "me" if i'm not real than neither is the pain or whatever
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I think whoever made this should be kept far away from little girls playing soccer.
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quote:The book has been called "the most controversial novel ever written in Canada"
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