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quiggy posted:the correct game in the series to start with is elden ring. it's got the highest build variety out of any game in the series and the open world structure means if you come up against something you're struggling with you can bail and go do something else. plus it's got the friendliest respec system in the series (trade an uncommon-but-not-crazy-rare resource to the second major boss of the game after defeating them to reallocate all your stats) and a weapon upgrade system that actually feels like it was designed by a human being
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Ciaphas posted:there's an identifiable "second" boss? i thought the whole point of ER was that order is bullshit whomever told you that lied to you the second boss is the moon witch in the wizard library
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Feb 14, 2023 19:18
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there's a bunch of areas you can do out of order, but the major bosses have an obvious intended order despite being able to break that order if your build is op or you're a souls savant
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Ciaphas posted:there's an identifiable "second" boss? i thought the whole point of ER was that order is bullshit the game is open world but zone-based, and each of the major zones has a major boss (major in both design complexity as well as plot significance). technically you don't need to do these in any particular order, outside of needing to kill at least two of the first five that are available, but >90% of players are gonna do it in a specific order spoilery info: the "shardbearer" bosses are Godrick, Rennala, Rykard, Morgott, Radahn, Mohg, and Malenia. the last two are strictly optional, and the first five are all individually optional but you must kill at least two to access Leyndell, which unlocks the second half of the game. most players will kill Godrick first and Rennala second even though it's not mandatory e: actually im dumb you can't do morgott before leyndell either, so i guess it's two out of four need to be killed before then quiggy fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Feb 14, 2023 |
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Feb 14, 2023 19:22
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it's kinda like how most breath of the wild players do the zora divine beast first and the gerudo one last even though you absolutely can leave the plateau and head directly for the desert
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Feb 14, 2023 19:24
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quiggy posted:it's kinda like how most breath of the wild players do the zora divine beast first and the gerudo one last even though you absolutely can leave the plateau and head directly for the desert
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Feb 14, 2023 19:27
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dioxazine posted:you got us all killed?? wrong, genesis owns
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Feb 14, 2023 19:37
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It's an aesthetic choice okay
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Feb 14, 2023 19:39
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hmm, the new Labyrinth Of game just dropped on steam. this one (Galleria) is supposed to be really good but the last one (Refrain) is like hyper-edgy and gross. i've heard this one is less bad about that?? anyone know anything about it
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dioxazine posted:i quite like SRTS as well, but not a fan of the bighuge large ones or the final ship, the genesis. there's an balloon and dirigible mod that i've had my eye on, but it still wasn't finished when i last checked ive been using transport shuttle standalone, which changes the game a great deal but still feels thematically appropriate -- if the colony can eventually build a starship with an ai persona, a chemfuel-powered shuttle to fly around makes perfect sense also not to mention the lack of cars or other ground transportation of course, i get that rimworld is heavily inspired by firefly/serenity and that "wild west in space" aesthetic with pack animals, but ffs if you can build a wind turbine and a gas-powered generator (both in the game in vanilla) you can build a car and even mount a minigun on the top if things get dicey while traveling
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Anybody else here played Ctrl Alt Ego? It's pretty solid. The "lol software" humor is so thick that the thickness is a joke itself, and the early game could've lightened up with the "it's an immersive sim! Solve problems however you want to!!!" a bit. But overall it's definitely worth checking out if you liked games like Prey.
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quiggy posted:it's kinda like how most breath of the wild players do the zora divine beast first and the gerudo one last even though you absolutely can leave the plateau and head directly for the desert i think 90% of players do zora first yeah, but tbh i don't think it is very consistent from there. i did gerudo second and rito last myself.
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quiggy posted:the game is open world but zone-based, and each of the major zones has a major boss (major in both design complexity as well as plot significance). technically you don't need to do these in any particular order, outside of needing to kill at least two of the first five that are available, but >90% of players are gonna do it in a specific order mixing an open world and From-ian vague direction just did not work for me at all after the initial wow factor
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The Fool posted:whomever told you that lied to you but then i'm a dense loving brainless autistic idiot, so
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Feb 14, 2023 22:39
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so you’re the target audience lol
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Ciaphas posted:i played 40+ hours and had zero idea where to go or what to do after Godrick. no idea who the gently caress any of those names are or where they'd be. the gold lights at the not-bonfires led me to a dead end and, by turns, Caelid, which was so loving awful i quit the game how did you not find Rennala at the very least, the post-Godrick Sites of Grace point you straight towards her
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Feb 14, 2023 22:59
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Ciaphas posted:no one "told me that", literally every poster on SA spouts the line of "just go somewhere else" all the goddamned time so i never had any indication whatsoever that a boss order existed beyond "godrick first, probably" the go somewhere else bit is talking about other areas in the open world
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Feb 14, 2023 23:02
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Ciaphas posted:no one "told me that", literally every poster on SA spouts the line of "just go somewhere else" all the goddamned time so i never had any indication whatsoever that a boss order existed beyond "godrick first, probably" I mean, when I said that I generally meant "gently caress off and do some minor dungeons" because each area is absolutely brimming with them.
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pseudorandom name posted:how did you not find Rennala at the very least, the post-Godrick Sites of Grace point you straight towards her jesus WEP posted:so you’re the target audience lol
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Feb 14, 2023 23:06
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The lost grace sites point you to your next objective but if you speak to NPCs they'll say stuff about dungeons, enemies, or just random things you can go explore and find.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:09
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The lost grace sites point you to your next objective but if you speak to NPCs they'll say stuff about dungeons, enemies, or just random things you can go explore and find. idk. i probably didn't follow the grace right, or something. wouldn't be surprised, it's me we're talking about; so nevermind, i'm sorry for bringing up this entire subject
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Feb 14, 2023 23:13
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dioxazine posted:you got us all killed?? No you all are still there, I just went on vacation and also ran out of fun things to do in the game. Might swap the narrator out to randy to spice it up.
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Feb 14, 2023 23:13
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Ciaphas posted:they pointed me to a locked gate in a sunken castle in a swamp north of godrick. i never found a way in, figured i had to find an alternate route or a key off path, and it was downhill from there wait, you figured out how to get up on the altus plateau all on your own but you couldn't figure out how to jump over the shaded castle's wall? Ciaphas posted:random things like the key to move past the locked gate where the grace was trying to aim me? ... is what i thought at the time the NPC in the church right after Godrick talks all about how he wants to get back inside the Academy of Raya Lucaria and how they sealed the entraces and how you need an Academy Glintstone Key to get in even if you don't talk to him, when you follow the graces to the Academy of Raya Lucaria's sealed gate there's a map on the corpse right next to the gate that says this dead guy really wanted a glintstone key to get into the academy
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AnimeIsTrash posted:No you all are still there, I just went on vacation and also ran out of fun things to do in the game. Might swap the narrator out to randy to spice it up. randy is always the best choice. though i thought i died of old age or something
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pseudorandom name posted:wait, you figured out how to get up on the altus plateau all on your own but you couldn't figure out how to jump over the shaded castle's wall? never found it, barely even care anymore. can't remember what an altus plateau is or any of those other names, either, it's been months. probably someone'll tell me "it was right there you clod" and i'll feel nice n stupid for missing the obvious again
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Ciaphas posted:
it was hiding behind a big dragon in the swampy area  (which is huge, and difficult to pinpoint where you were vs. where the dragon was)
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Video Nasty posted:it was hiding behind a big dragon in the swampy area
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polyester concept posted:i never played dark souls 2 at launch, i've only played the scholar of the first sin edition. apparently at launch it was bad but the new edition fixed enough things that it's a proper game now. coming from dark souls 1, the starting environments don't feel dark souls-y at all - it's all like daytime and bright and colorful lol. but later on it gets proper dark. dark souls if you will I really enjoyed DS2 when it first came out. I remember the weapon degradation being tuned up super high, so I carried around multiple weapons and repair powder so my weapons wouldn't break constantly. Also the shrine of Amana is one of my favourite areas in the whole series. I wish the devs had had a bit more time to work on it. There's a few places that are a bit rough, like some rooms in the game are just featureless boxes, which looks really bad compared with some of the amazing outdoor areas.
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There's a map on a corpse right by the gate into raya lucaria that shows you where the key is, it's over in the key item section of your inventory so it can be easy to miss that you picked it up if you aren't paying attention.
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souls games reward the player for exploring and looking for secrets so if you’re already a fan of dark souls it feels natural to look behind every building or off the side of every ledge and uncover every loving rock. this is where most new players get stuck in elden ring i think because it’s easy to assume the game will naturally guide you, not just to the next objective but also towards any helpful items. the ironic thing is that it kinda literally does guide you if you follow the grace trails on the map. but even still if you don’t explore you can miss things - like on reddit someone posted that they got really far without even collecting a single map piece which is hilarious but also kinda blows my mind because I’m pretty sure they’re all right along the main roads. idk how anyone can miss entire bosses though because if you walk around enough eventually you will find a huge building or castle and that basically means there will be a big bad guy inside
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I didn’t learn how great runes work until well after clearing the game because you have to learn 3 or 4 pieces of info to put it together and I got those days or weeks apart
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haveblue posted:I didn’t learn how great runes work until well after clearing the game great runes are a really cool system once you figure them out (customizable humanity, hell yeah!) but oof they really needed to be tutorialized better
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i have this really hosed up prejudice against the humanity system because i watched a few dark souls let’s plays and it didn’t make any sense to me so instead of trying to learn about it i got pissed off and declared it bullshit nonsense.
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It's way less important in elden ring anyways since you don't need it to enable the online functions like in Souls
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gently caress yeah tame thrumbo breeding pair
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returnal's out on pc today
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quiggy posted:great runes are a really cool system once you figure them out (customizable humanity, hell yeah!) but oof they really needed to be tutorialized better not even a tutorial, just deliver info better when you look for it the rune arc description says what it does but the great rune selection screen doesn't mention rune arcs, just add a little "you have to eat a rune arc for this to actually do anything" message
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haveblue posted:not even a tutorial, just deliver info better when you look for it it's also not the clearest that you have to restore a great rune before you can use it, which is made worse by the fact that the second great rune most people will get is the only one that you can't restore or equip
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i only ever found godrick's rune of course but +5 all stats seemed hard to beat
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Ciaphas posted:i only ever found godrick's rune of course but +5 all stats seemed hard to beat they're all very strong, im particular fond of malenia's, which gives you the bloodborne rally mechanic unfortunately they don't carry between ng cycles and malenia is super late game so you can't really build a build around that!!
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