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failfox is the worst piece of poo poo and mozilla/netscape are responsible for the terrible state of the web
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lol @ single browser users
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:23 |
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i already chose the best one so there’s literally no need to go chredging my bets
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 16:23 |
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jesus WEP posted:i have never strayed from the one true path of mozilla
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:17 |
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edge doesn't auto embed tweets for me on forums dot something awful dot com. i always have to click through to the bird site and deal with the "sign up" popups
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:21 |
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microsoft: we won't rest until you're on edgeThat loving Sned posted:Edge’s vertical tabs are really good though. I haven’t found an extension for chrome or Firefox that does it as well. There is one that has them in a separate window which isn’t as convenient. vivaldi does vertical tabs well
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 17:56 |
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it's funny because the chrome download page is probably the single most visited URL across all edge users
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:07 |
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Microsoft is actually the least consumer-hostile of all the major tech companies. They make all their money ripping off large corporations (a mitzvah), so they don't have to make money by stealing your data (Google et al) or abusing a million poor people (Amazon) or ripping off average folks (Apple).
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:09 |
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Sagebrush posted:Microsoft is actually the least consumer-hostile of all the major tech companies. They make all their money ripping off large corporations (a mitzvah), so they don't have to make money by stealing your data (Google et al) or abusing a million poor people (Amazon) or ripping off average folks (Apple). yeah really their only hostility towards their customers is just irritating them with terrible products and user experience, which compared to selling private info and other stuff isn’t really that evil.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:17 |
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Sagebrush posted:Microsoft is actually the least consumer-hostile of all the major tech companies. They make all their money ripping off large corporations (a mitzvah), so they don't have to make money by stealing your data (Google et al) or abusing a million poor people (Amazon) or ripping off average folks (Apple).
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 18:32 |
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it feels way more gross when microsoft does it for some reason like when they made microsoft accounts mandatory for windows 11 home installations and all the "hey, can we pretty please spy on you?" prompts when you set up your new computer and after every windows update (unless you find the button that stops it buried in the notification settings) and all the crapware you didn't ask for from the windows store that you have to uninstall
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:09 |
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yeah, i am very much on the "lesser evil offering many conveniences" with microsoft, but they sure do love randomly annoying me for pretty much no gain. excepting forcing a microsoft account for windows, i think that is genuinely a sensible consumer- and developer-friendly decision. in that most people really should have a microsoft account to make sure they can do things like account recovery, find my device, and all the related identity management stuff. and once you make almost everyone have an account it becomes a support nightmare as developers will just assume everyone has one and rely on the related os functionality, so make everyone. the very obsessed nerds can dodge it anyway, but just embrace that being an unsupported configuration.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 19:38 |
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and given the idea of using macos without an apple id seems ludicrous
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:02 |
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Imagine a world where MS makes an OS that people want to upgrade to. Where every UI element is updated yet familiar. One they feel like they could actually charge for instead of still accepting Windows 7 licenses. I wonder how much money they actually make off me. No Xbox, no gamepass, just some desktops and laptops with $5 Windows keys. Actually, I'll buy HiFi Rush on Steam so there's that at least. Although Shinji Mikami, one of my favourite game developers, left them a few days ago.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:03 |
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personally i care fantastically little about the "look at this old bit of ui in windows", if i got to choose between having all windows 11 ui suddenly updated to the "modern" style or the "visual search" button on images in edge disappearing forever i'd certainly go for the latter. despite the fact that you can turn the latter off in two clicks (issue being that updates sometime forget that setting, because microsoft are so loving annoying about this stuff).
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:09 |
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unfortunately designing a good operating system is at odds with shareholder needs
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:22 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:personally i care fantastically little about the "look at this old bit of ui in windows", if i got to choose between having all windows 11 ui suddenly updated to the "modern" style or the "visual search" button on images in edge disappearing forever i'd certainly go for the latter. despite the fact that you can turn the latter off in two clicks (issue being that updates sometime forget that setting, because microsoft are so loving annoying about this stuff). They can keep the 3.1 fonts menu, just maybe not have a stripped down Windows 7 settings menu with all the stuff they haven't bothered to add to the new one. Apparently adding even a single option to Settings is a bureaucratic and technical nightmare, but they've had over a decade to do it.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:29 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:personally i care fantastically little about the "look at this old bit of ui in windows", if i got to choose between having all windows 11 ui suddenly updated to the "modern" style or the "visual search" button on images in edge disappearing forever i'd certainly go for the latter. despite the fact that you can turn the latter off in two clicks (issue being that updates sometime forget that setting, because microsoft are so loving annoying about this stuff). nah the 20 different ui styles sucks rear end and is indicative of a massive lack of quality control
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:31 |
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it sucks and looks lovely but it's ultimately functional enough, which is apparently all that matters to MS now
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:37 |
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works for adobe
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:47 |
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i absolutely hate the split context menu of win11, gently caress this lovely little row of icons along the top
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 20:49 |
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Don't worry just repeat this unfathomable registry incantation to restore the useful context menucode:
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 21:02 |
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r u ready to WALK posted:Don't worry just repeat this unfathomable registry incantation to restore the useful context menu why do they keep doing this if they're all registry flags
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 21:05 |
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Sagebrush posted:Microsoft is actually the least consumer-hostile of all the major tech companies. They make all their money ripping off large corporations (a mitzvah), so they don't have to make money by stealing your data (Google et al) or abusing a million poor people (Amazon) or ripping off average folks (Apple). Microsoft absolutely sells user data to the highest bidder. Didn't someone recently do a comparison between Win 11 and XP where they found that there's rampant third-party spyware from a fresh install? Apple might be worse in terms of creating a 'walled garden' ecosystem that's hard to break out of, but you don't, under any circumstances, have to hand it to Microsoft. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Feb 23, 2023 |
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i have a friend who’s convinced aero was the best windows look
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 22:04 |
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carry on then posted:nah the 20 different ui styles sucks rear end and is indicative of a massive lack of quality control lol, no, what is indicative of a lack of quality control is the lack of quality control. i would also be up for microsoft putting some of the old ui back if they'd spend 5 minutes debugging some of the new stuff in trade. (also ironically posting on the page where people are posting regedit strings to restore old ui)
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 22:09 |
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Armitag3 posted:i have a friend who’s convinced aero was the best windows look your friend is almost right, it's the runner up after windows 2000 microsoft completely removing the aero code from windows 8 and above just to make it run on garbage underpowered arm handhelds is unforgivable
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 22:45 |
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watercolor was the best visual style look how goddamn functional that is
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:13 |
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That looks freakin sickkk Also I'm Jim Midnite
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:14 |
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lol i actually know that guy. from like 20 years ago
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:16 |
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the worst aesthetic was XP. plastic infantile mess. just dogshit to look at, and even worse when i turned my monitor on
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:17 |
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jesus WEP posted:the worst aesthetic was XP. plastic infantile mess. just dogshit to look at, and even worse when i turned my monitor on they replaced watercolor with luna somewhere around beta 2 https://guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/whistler2257 this is a pretty incomplete version, most themes i've seen are based off of the theme as it appeared like 200 build numbers later. but you can see the direction its going in right before they lobotomize it
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:28 |
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there were some fun windows xp logo mockups shared on twitter a while back that i found interesting https://twitter.com/wowstartsnow/status/1449405899685105667
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:40 |
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the best windows logo was the one apple did when they made bootcamp and redid the windows logo lol
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:42 |
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Last Chance posted:there were some fun windows xp logo mockups shared on twitter a while back that i found interesting
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 23:57 |
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it's actually kind of funny that they had a design that would not be out of place today but just decided to go whole hog aughts design with it ...maybe not "ha ha" funny, but this is yospos after all
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# ? Feb 24, 2023 00:00 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:lol, no, what is indicative of a lack of quality control is the lack of quality control. i would also be up for microsoft putting some of the old ui back if they'd spend 5 minutes debugging some of the new stuff in trade. oh so you're one of those "ux doesn't matter and isn't real development" people, gotcha
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# ? Feb 24, 2023 00:09 |
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the amount of work it would take to have a full scale desktop operating system actually have a 100% consistent ui is so huge that the project velocity would be slower than the incoming changes and it would never be completed
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# ? Feb 24, 2023 03:13 |
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hypothetically, what if we just reverted to the windows 2000 ui? what would we lose?
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jesus WEP posted:i have never strayed from the one true path of mozilla firefox has the best 3 wolf moon theme, so i stay loyal
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