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Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

PT6A posted:

Not super relevant, but please consign “gypped” to the same shitpile of words as “jewed” because it’s essentially the same thing, offensive connotations and all.

Noted and corrected.


withoutclass posted:

Yes well I'd also rather not get eaten by bears but I'm not sure that's particularly relevant here unless 100% of your examples are things your work would do if you didn't install their software on your phone.

None of my examples of things worth dying on the hill for were relevant to old mate's "gently caress you I will do what I want in a known kidnap for ransom zone and I am going to take you to the EU court over mandating utilising a safety travel ap while in a red zone". My point was that a lot of people claim some small thing is a really big deal, infer that they would really make a big song and dance when most people wont, with a counter example I provided along with the commentary that it was not actually a great idea to make it Custers last stand.

We had a different fellow say he was going to quit rather than receive a "DNA altering" vaccine so we obtained and flew in a dose of Sinovax, registered it with local authorities and administered it just to old mate so that he could continue to work (we mandated expats are covid vaccinated as required for continued employment).

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AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

MrNemo posted:

I have to admit I've got work apps on my android phone. Previous workplace issued me a work phone and I prefer having it on my personal. Android segregates work apps and let's me turn them off so (supposedly) work doesn't have access to any of my personal stuff and I can set the apps to not run at all when I'm not working.

This means not getting to have an extra phone with a UI I'm not so comfortable with that was also slow as poo poo with a bit very good fingerprint scanner (it was an old budget Samsung). Admittedly that's not the same as work demanding that you install a load of personal apps that they have access and control over. Current place is Google based so it's pretty well managed in terms of distinguishing personal and work apps.

The limit of my work apps on my phone is, e-mail and the application that does the timeclock and other payroll things for me so I can clock in and out without having to sit at a desktop. I wouldn't even have the email but they switched to 2-factor authorization and I hate it, so being logged in via phone is just easier for me.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Yeah I know I am doing something that could potentially harm me but I am simply not managing a second device just so I can access my work Outlook, MS Teams, and slack. My lazybones are much stronger than my brain.

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Apparently Google can't even afford to give its in-office workers a desk anymore. Instead, they are telling people (including people who currently come in every day) to come in two days / week and share their desk with someone else for the other two days.

I can only imagine how well this will work out for people who need ergonomic keyboards or other accommodations.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

VikingofRock posted:

Apparently Google can't even afford to give its in-office workers a desk anymore. Instead, they are telling people (including people who currently come in every day) to come in two days / week and share their desk with someone else for the other two days.

I can only imagine how well this will work out for people who need ergonomic keyboards or other accommodations.

It is also directly in conflict with the "3 days a week in office" requirement

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Jose Valasquez posted:

It is also directly in conflict with the "3 days a week in office" requirement

That's no longer a requirement! Lol dead after like 3 months

quote:

Employees will generally alternate days they’re in the office, either Monday and Wednesday, or Tuesday and Thursday. They will be in two days a week, a change from the company requiring employees to come in three days a week.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Electric Wrigglies posted:

Noted and corrected.

None of my examples of things worth dying on the hill for were relevant to old mate's "gently caress you I will do what I want in a known kidnap for ransom zone and I am going to take you to the EU court over mandating utilising a safety travel ap while in a red zone". My point was that a lot of people claim some small thing is a really big deal, infer that they would really make a big song and dance when most people wont, with a counter example I provided along with the commentary that it was not actually a great idea to make it Custers last stand.

We had a different fellow say he was going to quit rather than receive a "DNA altering" vaccine so we obtained and flew in a dose of Sinovax, registered it with local authorities and administered it just to old mate so that he could continue to work (we mandated expats are covid vaccinated as required for continued employment).

Work mandating work poo poo on your personal phone isn't "a small thing," hth

Kestral
Nov 24, 2000

Forum Veteran

VikingofRock posted:

Apparently Google can't even afford to give its in-office workers a desk anymore. Instead, they are telling people (including people who currently come in every day) to come in two days / week and share their desk with someone else for the other two days.

I can only imagine how well this will work out for people who need ergonomic keyboards or other accommodations.

The headline is misleading. This applies specifically to their cloud unit, which is bleeding money and under some serious pressure to perform. This reads like a management of a struggling unit taking desperate, ill-advised measures to cut costs.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

Papercut posted:

That's no longer a requirement! Lol dead after like 3 months
In my experience the whole mandate has been mostly ignored since it went into place anyway lol

Kestral posted:

The headline is misleading. This applies specifically to their cloud unit, which is bleeding money and under some serious pressure to perform. This reads like a management of a struggling unit taking desperate, ill-advised measures to cut costs.
Executives won't look in the mirror so this isn't gonna help

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Boris Galerkin posted:

Alternatively refuse to do work related stuff on your personal phone.

E: actually you should always do that regardless of if you get a second phone. I would never install an app for work on my phone. I don’t even do work email on my phone.

MrNemo posted:

I have to admit I've got work apps on my android phone. Previous workplace issued me a work phone and I prefer having it on my personal. Android segregates work apps and let's me turn them off so (supposedly) work doesn't have access to any of my personal stuff and I can set the apps to not run at all when I'm not working.

This means not getting to have an extra phone with a UI I'm not so comfortable with that was also slow as poo poo with a bit very good fingerprint scanner (it was an old budget Samsung). Admittedly that's not the same as work demanding that you install a load of personal apps that they have access and control over. Current place is Google based so it's pretty well managed in terms of distinguishing personal and work apps.

Was going to mention this too. You can install the work account as a work profile, which does segregate it to a separate user account on the device. No supposedly about it, the two profiles do not actually have visibility into each other, but the system can assist with sharing content between the two if you want it to. You can also tap the "work profile" button in the quick settings pulldown to turn it off completely when you want to not deal with it, and there's some level of ML stuff that will defer most notifications when you're outside of work hours.

Leon Sumbitches
Mar 27, 2010

Dr. Leon Adoso Sumbitches (prounounced soom-'beh-cheh) (born January 21, 1935) is heir to the legendary Adoso family oil fortune.





https://www.reuters.com/technology/white-house-gives-agencies-30-days-impose-federal-device-tiktok-ban-2023-02-27/

WASHINGTON, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The White House on Monday gave government agencies 30 days to ensure they do not have Chinese-owned app TikTok on federal devices and systems.

Office of Management and Budget Director Shalanda Young told agencies in a guidance memorandum seen by Reuters they will be required to adjust information technology contracts to ensure vendors keep U.S. data safe by eliminating the use of TikTok on their devices and systems.

TikTok has said the concerns are fueled by misinformation. The action does not affect the more than 100 million Americans who use TikTok on private or company-owned devices.

Congress in December voted to bar federal employees from using the Chinese-owned video app on government-owned devices and gave the Biden administration 60 days to issue agency directives. The vote was the latest action by U.S. lawmakers to crack down on Chinese companies amid national security fears that Beijing could use them to spy on Americans.

Federal Chief Information Security Officer Chris DeRusha said "this guidance is part of the Administration’s ongoing commitment to securing our digital infrastructure and protecting the American people’s security and privacy."

Many government agencies including the White House, Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and the State Department had banned TikTok from government devices before the vote.

The TikTok ban does not apply if there are national security, law enforcement or security research activities but agency leadership must approve these activities, Young's memo said.

The memo said within 90 days, agencies must address any use of TikTok by IT vendors through contracts and with 120 days agencies will include a new prohibition on TikTok in all new solicitations. The federal contractor ban applies to equipment used in government work but does not "include any equipment acquired by a federal contractor incidental to a federal contract."

Reporting by David Shepardson; Editing by Chris Sanders and Lisa Shumaker

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


VikingofRock posted:

Apparently Google can't even afford to give its in-office workers a desk anymore. Instead, they are telling people (including people who currently come in every day) to come in two days / week and share their desk with someone else for the other two days.

I can only imagine how well this will work out for people who need ergonomic keyboards or other accommodations.
My company is still allowing for full remote work, but if you're doing a hybrid thing, they want you to do a similar "hoteling" kind of thing where you don't have a dedicated desk/sign up ahead of time?

Needless to say, the ergonomic factor, as well as the idea of bringing everything home with me or using a locker, seems like an absolute hassle that does not make hybrid worth it. But I also kind of get not wanting to have dedicated desks for people who might come in at some point.

For any company mandating a minimum amount of days in office though, it's down right moronic, but doesn't strike me as much different from the open concept office trash - just kind of the next step.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

Whatever.

TACD posted:

That TNG episode where all the crew start vanishing, except at the end Elon won’t realise he lacks the ability to drive the whole starship himself.

This on repeat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-urDhhvgxk

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Samsung sent me a phone to push a on screen prompt on the rare event I actually log into their backend system as 2FA. It literally sits in a plastic baggie stapled to my pinboard. We are in teh process of ditching Samsung as a client, so that phone is going to disappear into my pocket.

Doggles
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/1630375363397263363

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
Sounds like LastPass is the very last password manager you'd ever want to use.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Presumably that person's use of their unsecured home computer to hold Important Corporate Data was against policy, is there really anything a company can do on the IT/Security side if an employee with access to this kind of data is determined to gently caress up this badly?


edit: As far as I can tell, the problem was an employee with access to a lot of stuff typed in an important password on a computer that had a keylogger running, right?

withak fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Feb 28, 2023

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Should have taken one more pass.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT
Just give me KeePass and Dropbox.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Ha ha they used Plex. Dev was watching stuff while working probably.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

withak posted:

Presumably that person's use of their unsecured home computer to hold Important Corporate Data was against policy, is there really anything a company can do on the IT/Security side if an employee with access to this kind of data is determined to gently caress up this badly?


edit: As far as I can tell, the problem was an employee with access to a lot of stuff typed in an important password on a computer that had a keylogger running, right?

Ideally no single employee would be able to mass-access user data in decrypted form. This is obviously very hard in practice.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Silly Burrito posted:

Just give me KeePass and Dropbox.

My solution for the last like decade, no issues yet

withoutclass
Nov 6, 2007

Resist the siren call of rhinocerosness

College Slice
I use a big rolodex of passwords, good luck hackers!

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

withak posted:

Presumably that person's use of their unsecured home computer to hold Important Corporate Data was against policy, is there really anything a company can do on the IT/Security side if an employee with access to this kind of data is determined to gently caress up this badly?


edit: As far as I can tell, the problem was an employee with access to a lot of stuff typed in an important password on a computer that had a keylogger running, right?

Should have passed on letting their employees work from home

Personally, I just use Apple keychain

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

OddObserver posted:

Ideally no single employee would be able to mass-access user data in decrypted form. This is obviously very hard in practice.

I don't believe this was access to user data in decrypted form, it was access to the encrypted backup of the separately encrypted vaults, so they got access to vaults, but the vaults are still encrypted. We already knew that the vaults themselves were leaked, so this doesn't seem meaningfully different for users than the previous leak other than "lol wtf lastpass"

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Oxyclean posted:

My company is still allowing for full remote work, but if you're doing a hybrid thing, they want you to do a similar "hoteling" kind of thing where you don't have a dedicated desk/sign up ahead of time?

Needless to say, the ergonomic factor, as well as the idea of bringing everything home with me or using a locker, seems like an absolute hassle that does not make hybrid worth it. But I also kind of get not wanting to have dedicated desks for people who might come in at some point.

For any company mandating a minimum amount of days in office though, it's down right moronic, but doesn't strike me as much different from the open concept office trash - just kind of the next step.

They just don't want to say "hot desking" since that has negative implications of sharing your personal space with someone else when you're not using it. "Hoteling" implies a pleasant experience of being a worldly traveler to a multitude of (desk) locations!

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Isn’t this sort of “no personal desk/sit wherever you want” the new thing to replace the open office though? A lot of work can be done on laptops these days and I know quite a few companies that just set up docking stations and monitors and let you sit (or stand) wherever.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
There's more to having a desk than being able to sit down and sort of have your hardware set up. (Also I'm in a position where LOL if you'd expect me to work on a laptop).

If I were (1) expected to come to the office regularly and (2) weren't given a permanent desk to sit in I'd go hotseat/hotel at the CEO's usually big, fancy, and permanent office until they get tired of it. It's not like they spend that much time there, either.

Thankfully I'm remote and staying that way.

Iamgoofball
Jul 1, 2015

tecnocrat posted:

Repeat after me:

"I don't have a cell phone, sorry. What's another way to do X?"

fyi, you can and will be fired on the spot at minimum wage jobs for saying you don't have a cell phone cuz your schedule is "whatever your manager texts/calls you and tells you at 5 in the morning day-of"

source: i watched it happen at fast food

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

There's more to having a desk than being able to sit down and sort of have your hardware set up. (Also I'm in a position where LOL if you'd expect me to work on a laptop).

If I were (1) expected to come to the office regularly and (2) weren't given a permanent desk to sit in I'd go hotseat/hotel at the CEO's usually big, fancy, and permanent office until they get tired of it. It's not like they spend that much time there, either.

Thankfully I'm remote and staying that way.

Those are, obviously, usually excluded from the hotdesking pool.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Neito posted:

Those are, obviously, usually excluded from the hotdesking pool.

Wow, jeez, sorry! I keep forgetting this space isn't available for setting up my laptop. Oh, well!

The very next day:... *knock* *knock*

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Wow, jeez, sorry! I keep forgetting this space isn't available for setting up my laptop. Oh, well!

The very next day:... *knock* *knock*

I read that in a Det Columbo voice

“Ah geez I’m sorry. But one more thing, you see, I couldn’t help noticing that your letter opener here has a four inch blade and this little indentation, and ah well, it kinda looks similar to what the wound in the deceased looked like…”

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Capt.Whorebags posted:

I read that in a Det Columbo voice

“Ah geez I’m sorry. But one more thing, you see, I couldn’t help noticing that your letter opener here has a four inch blade and this little indentation, and ah well, it kinda looks similar to what the wound in the deceased looked like…”

"My wife, you see, she has a desk like this".

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Kestral posted:

The headline is misleading. This applies specifically to their cloud unit, which is bleeding money and under some serious pressure to perform. This reads like a management of a struggling unit taking desperate, ill-advised measures to cut costs.
It's a great way to signal to GCP customers that it won't be around in a couple years. I'm surprised GCP has lasted as long as it has. I know two places personally that still use it, and both are transitioning to AWS because a) GCP sucks balls, and b) They don't think it will exist for much longer.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




cat botherer posted:

It's a great way to signal to GCP customers that it won't be around in a couple years. I'm surprised GCP has lasted as long as it has. I know two places personally that still use it, and both are transitioning to AWS because a) GCP sucks balls, and b) They don't think it will exist for much longer.

GCP has much lower "sysadmin poo poo" overhead than the other 2 big options for getting started, but yeah, from enterprise planning perspective GCP makes sense only when Google is paying you, or when you have a load-bearing use case for BigQuery or 2-3 other GCP things that are simultaneously exclusive and finished.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Once it joins the Google Graveyard, it'll be in good company.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

GCP's revenues are growing at a decent rate, it's doubled in the past two years. It's losing money because it's still being aggressively invested in to continue that growth, not because it's inherently unprofitable.

Nothing would be terribly surprising at this point, but GCP being shut down is up there.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I know people joke about google killing products all the time but I just don’t see google killing google cloud. It’s just honestly unfathomable.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


they killed angularjs? kind of a surprise.

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Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

abelwingnut posted:

they killed angularjs? kind of a surprise.

Well not really. The killed angularjs to move onto angular.

As for Google cloud, I'm not sure they will just kill it, it's not some side project for them, they have poured huge sums of money into it and gone all in. Killing it will seriously hurt them.

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