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I'm offended that despite having multiple overlapping subscription services I can't watch: "Super Best Friends" (Season 5) "Cartoon Wars" Part I (Season 10) "Cartoon Wars" Part II (Season 10) "200" (Season 14) "201"(Season 14) I don't even have the ability to be outraged by them, since I can barely remember them at this point, which would be almost a full season's worth of shows.
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are there any episodes you actually do like?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Well, I guess this is as good of a time as any to say I'm not a fan of how "Cripple Fight" has Big Gay Al turn to the camera and say that private organizations should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. Lol that episode just aired on CC. Literally, from 12:30 to 1:00am.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Well, I guess this is as good of a time as any to say I'm not a fan of how "Cripple Fight" has Big Gay Al turn to the camera and say that private organizations should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. Yea, it would be a bad take if they had that message in 2023. It's not really that bad of a message for when the episode aired in 2001 though! World has progressed rapidly in the last 20 years or so. It wasn't even until 2020 when the supreme court ruled that private companies actually couldn't discriminate for sexual orientation. Definitely far worse takes on sexuality from other shows in the early 2000s! Just a month prior to Cripple Fight was the Friends episode with Chandler's Dad.
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Yea, it would be a bad take if they had that message in 2023. It's not really that bad of a message for when the episode aired in 2001 though! I don't follow, why was it okay for private organisations to discriminate against minorities in 2001?
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Feb 27, 2023 09:31
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I hate when people can't take a joke. Lighten up dammit
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Well, I guess this is as good of a time as any to say I'm not a fan of how "Cripple Fight" has Big Gay Al turn to the camera and say that private organizations should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. The point of Al's speech is that orgs shouldn't discriminate because it's the right thing to do and not simply because they're forced to. If they're just doing it under threat of being put into stocks then you haven't done enough to convince them your side is just. Now I can see how this sentiment would be lost on D&D posting phychopaths who think nazis will recant their evil ways the instant you punch them hard enough, but here in TVIV we believe in tegrity..
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Randy heads to the hardware store to buy a new toilet in the all-new episode, titled “Japanese Toilets” premiering Wednesday, March 1 at 10/9c on Comedy Central. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l8ujWSqj94
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Stuffguyman posted:The point of Al's speech is that orgs shouldn't discriminate because it's the right thing to do and not simply because they're forced to. If they're just doing it under threat of being put into stocks then you haven't done enough to convince them your side is just. It's essentially the same idea as "Vote or Die". Forcing people to act a certain way, although it might seem like it creates a better situation, doesn't actually address the issue or create lasting change.
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Stuffguyman posted:The point of Al's speech is that orgs shouldn't discriminate because it's the right thing to do and not simply because they're forced to. If they're just doing it under threat of being put into stocks then you haven't done enough to convince them your side is just. PaybackJack posted:It's essentially the same idea as "Vote or Die". Forcing people to act a certain way, although it might seem like it creates a better situation, doesn't actually address the issue or create lasting change. Right, and I fundamentally disagree with that line of thinking because it protects the rights of bigots in positions of power and allows them to continue to use their power to harm others while simultaneously letting the rights of vulnerable people without power be violated. As nice as it would be if we could always just talk people out of being hateful sometimes that doesn't work and we need to pass laws that prevent them from putting their hate into practice. Maybe they'll come around, maybe they won't, but they still shouldn't be allowed to fire someone for being gay while they work through whatever issues led to them being homophonic.
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PaybackJack posted:It's essentially the same idea as "Vote or Die". Forcing people to act a certain way, although it might seem like it creates a better situation, doesn't actually address the issue or create lasting change. Let's just stop having laws. Everybody will self-govern and it'll be a paradise!
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Feb 28, 2023 00:20
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the people in power are wrong and shouldn't have control over the way people act or think. i, on the other hand, am right. and therefore my opinion about how people should act and think is what should actually be enforced.
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Feb 28, 2023 01:20
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ShoogaSlim posted:the people in power are wrong and shouldn't have control over the way people act or think. Yes?
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south park is the best show of all time bc it points out the absurdity of people who treat societal issues like team sports lol. y'all are loving hopeless and insufferable. why are you in this thread again anyway?
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Feb 28, 2023 01:40
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LividLiquid posted:This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Matt and Trey are avowed libertarians so this is literally what they believe.
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Feb 28, 2023 01:49
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McSpanky posted:Matt and Trey are avowed libertarians so this is literally what they believe. Do they have any Roilandesque tirades about the arbitrary nature of age of consent by any chance? Just how libertarian are they?
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Dude it's okay to admit that a political opinion hastily written in 6 days for a fart joke cartoon 20 years ago might not hold up to scrutiny today. Being able to admit that is the opposite of taking it too seriously.
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ShoogaSlim posted:south park is the best show of all time bc it points out the absurdity of people who treat societal issues like team sports lol. y'all are loving hopeless and insufferable. why are you in this thread again anyway? I think Sunny may have passed it. Why? Well, Sunny has had 1 sub par covid season. South Park hasn't been great in almost 10 years now. 2015 was the last good season, IIRC. It may have been 2014. That's a long time for a hall of famer to keep hanging on. There is the argument that once the legacy is established, the bad stuff that comes after doesn't matter. My response is look at the Simpsons which hasn't been good in 20 years. If South Park had ended 10 years ago, it's legacy is very different than the fact they are still churning stuff out but aren't particularly inspired most of the time. Something something, really hard to produce quality content in 6 days. I haven't seen anything from this season yet cuz I can't be arsed to pirate, gently caress paying cable companies and I don't have paramount at the moment. From the comments it looks like it has been decent but basically more of the same since they lost it. And back to your argument about pointing out the absurdity of people blah blah. That's Sunny, as well.
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Maybe South Park should have an episode where a character is too poor or cheap to watch a television show without stealing it, and is even too lazy to do that, but talks mad poo poo about it anyway. Not that criticism isn’t somewhat valid, but someone who would admit to such things is a clown.
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You don’t need to pirate South Park. They upload the episodes on their site for free still.
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Danzel Glovington posted:Do they have any Roilandesque tirades about the arbitrary nature of age of consent by any chance? Just how libertarian are they? If you take Chef's word as theirs, 17.
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LividLiquid posted:This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I also, ultimately, agree. While the base case scenario would be to educate and enlighten people so that they have the knowledge and experience so that the can make better choices, sometimes, as with things like mask laws or anti-discrimination policies, it's best to just do it at gunpoint, so to speak.
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isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? and you're arguing in favor of them being enforced on the same level of severity as anti discrimination? jesus christ what is this thread lol also i'm wilfully happily vaccinated before you try and use that argument against what i'm saying here.
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? and you're arguing in favor of them being enforced on the same level of severity as anti discrimination? I live in a country where the mask mandates helped keep everyone safe through two pandemics. Sorry that wasn't the case in your country but it worked in mine. Also
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? Not in the slightest.
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? it's not
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? and you're arguing in favor of them being enforced on the same level of severity as anti discrimination? That is accurate if you get your facts from Fox News.
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? and you're arguing in favor of them being enforced on the same level of severity as anti discrimination? Lol it’s like you’re a loving hot take machine.
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ShoogaSlim posted:isn't it like unanimously agreed that mask mandates did little to nothing to help reduce the spread of covid? and you're arguing in favor of them being enforced on the same level of severity as anti discrimination? No, it's agreed that a ton of Americans are assholes that can't do anything to protect themselves or others if it slightly inconveniences them.
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htmcdc posted:Face masks or respirators (N95/KN95s) effectively filter virus-sized particles in laboratory settings. The real-world effectiveness of face coverings to prevent acquisition of SARS-CoV-2 infection has not been widely studied. cdc posted:The findings in this report are subject to at least eight limitations. First, this study did not account for other preventive behaviors that could influence risk for acquiring infection, including adherence to physical distancing recommendations. In addition, generalizability of this study is limited to persons seeking SARS-CoV-2 testing and who were willing to participate in a telephone interview, who might otherwise exercise other protective behaviors if you're the kind of person who wore a mask everywhere, you were also likely to take other preventative measures that wound up steering you clear of covid. i wore my mask everywhere i went like a good citizen and followed the rules and looked down on the smoothbrains that wore it under their nose or around their chin. i'm not calling for riots against masks screaming "i can't breathe" or anything. i just think it's loving absurd to suggest that mask mandates are as serious as telling a company not to fire someone for being gay. the two are not equal at all.
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a Vanderbilt University study found, outside a laboratory, that counties with mask mandates had half as many COVID-19 deaths https://archive.is/JGYFM The article itself notes "However, not all of this difference can be attributed exclusively to masks. In counties with mask mandates, residents may be taking more care to protect themselves with hand washing and social distancing, which would contribute to a lower death rate independent of the mask mandate." However, there was this study from Duke University on individual mask effectiveness https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/08/us/duke-university-face-mask-test-trnd/index.html https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abd3083 with something similar demonstrated informally here https://archive.is/3ULwN Without masks, COVID-19 particles fly more than 13 feet https://nypost.com/2020/04/12/the-coronavirus-can-travel-at-least-13-feet-new-study-shows/ or at least 26 feet http://web.archive.org/web/20200827231730/https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200827/covid-and-social-distancing-is-6-feet-enough but less than six feet with the mask https://phys.org/news/2020-12-masks-covid-distancing.html galenanorth fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 28, 2023 |
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PaybackJack posted:I also, ultimately, agree. While the base case scenario would be to educate and enlighten people so that they have the knowledge and experience so that the can make better choices, sometimes, as with things like mask laws or anti-discrimination policies, it's best to just do it at gunpoint, so to speak.
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ShoogaSlim posted:https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm Lmao. Literally the second paragraph of the link you posted, titled “summary” disproves your point. CDC.gov posted:What is added by this report? Mask mandates failed to stop the spread because Americans that had risky behavior ignored the mask mandates. And the people tasked with enforcing the mask mandates (cops) were some of the worst offenders and refused to enforce them. Mask mandates failed not because they don’t work, they failed because the population didn’t give a poo poo and there was no enforcement.
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should you be put in jail if you weren't wearing a mask at the height of the pandemic? should you still be put in jail if you don't wear one? should the punishment be more or less severe if you are or aren't vaccinated? does it matter if you're in a public park or a library or a grocery store or at yellowstone national forest? would you call the cops on someone not wearing a mask in a grocery store if you knew with 100% certainty the cops would come rushing in to fine the person? to arrest them? what if they were eldery? or a POC? or trans? the problem with this "we're doing this for your own good" bullshit is people who believe in it don't really have a concrete way of how it should be handled and almost certainly would not bother doing anything about it on their own. this is why there's so much criticism around wanting the state to step in and hold people's hands behind their back. if the general population doesn't give a poo poo, why force them to do something they don't want to do? for the benefit of who? you, the forums poster who is trying to prove a point in a thread about a cartoon?
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That is some incredible and hilarious twisting of the narrative and whataboutism in order to justify your point. Why are you even bring trans people or people of color into the conversation? The solution is literally the one that all of the mask mandates put in place, that the police by and large refused to enforce. If a cop sees someone without a mask in a place they’re supposed to have one, they write the person (regardless of their gender or race you loving knob) a ticket. And if a business allows no masks when they’re supposed to enforce masks, guess what happens? They pay a fine! Regardless of if it’s a woman owned business or not. And fines that are not paid result in late fees, additional fines, and potentially garnishment. Just like any other ticket for jumping the turnstiles on the subway. No one is calling the cops. No one is going to do poo poo. But if it’s enforced people will listen. Just like speeding tickets or red light camera tickets. Saying you’re happily vaccinated doesn’t stop you from being an anti-mask idiot when you spout the same dumb bullshit they all do.
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