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maybe it's just our setup but doing really basic things requires going to multiple different pages. Half the time I make a ticket it just disappears into the ether
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Feb 28, 2023 08:48
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Jira is 1000% a case of "tries to do a bit of everything and ends up poo poo at all of it" also it's incredibly slow and is riddled with weird UI choices. Want to set the date on a release version? off you go through three menu levels!
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Feb 28, 2023 09:47
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Jira is 1000% a case of "tries to do a bit of everything and ends up poo poo at all of it" jira still sucks, clearly, but everyone can make it suck in their own artisinal, bespoke way
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Feb 28, 2023 10:32
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Sagacity posted:a lot of that is down to how your org has set it up one of our never ending groups of PMs got a massive hard on for "Jira big picture" and wow what a loving mess that is because of how it encourages huge issue spam so yes, I can at least partly believe that.
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Feb 28, 2023 10:38
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jira is probably the nicest tool my org uses, i live in hell
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Feb 28, 2023 10:57
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Trapick posted:jira is probably the nicest tool my org uses, i live in hell lol what are you on, jabber, sharepoint, and the ceo's nephew's spare time HR platform?
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Feb 28, 2023 11:08
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Trapick posted:jira is probably the nicest tool my org uses, i live in hell
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Feb 28, 2023 11:17
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I don't work for a programming shop and we use jira for "waterfall with agile characteristics" it's fine
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Feb 28, 2023 12:37
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c tp s: a common thing in hobby OS dev is that everyone's first "real" OS project is a unix clone so as an april fools joke I'm doing a fourth edition unix reimplementation for the original IBM PC. did you know there's a modern fork of watcom C that can still target the 8088?
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Feb 28, 2023 12:40
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distortion park posted:lol what are you on, jabber, sharepoint, and the ceo's nephew's spare time HR platform? 3 for 3 if HR platform includes time tracking systems welcome to Wall Street baby
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Feb 28, 2023 13:32
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Is it standard JIRA behavior that you cannot put an image in a bug description, or just our messed up installation?
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Feb 28, 2023 14:01
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yes
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Feb 28, 2023 14:14
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smackfu posted:standard JIRA behavior nobody knows what this is, op
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Feb 28, 2023 14:18
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jira is in the category of b2b saas that is "adaptive skin over ""customer tunable"" (probably just a bajillion fields of which most are unused at any given time) database" and as such it is a) guaranteed to suck poo poo b) guaranteed to suck poo poo in a different way for every single customer that modifies it. it's really a tour de force
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Feb 28, 2023 14:20
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distortion park posted:lol what are you on, jabber, sharepoint, and the ceo's nephew's spare time HR platform? 3 for 3 if HR platform includes time tracking systems welcome to Wall Street baby
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Feb 28, 2023 14:38
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Cold on a Cob posted:nobody knows what this is, op in my day we called this "lotus notes syndrome". like, in theory, it can be configured to work really well, but in practice, no-one actually knows the magic incantations, or they do, and they don't have the admin privileges to set it up every so often a programmer goes "it'll be a workflow engine" and we repeat the same horrors that are inflicted on us
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Feb 28, 2023 15:55
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Kazinsal posted:c tp s: a common thing in hobby OS dev is that everyone's first "real" OS project is a unix clone so as an april fools joke I'm doing a fourth edition unix reimplementation for the original IBM PC. did you know there's a modern fork of watcom C that can still target the 8088? what's the typical "build u an unix" approach to targeting architectures without an mmu, is it some sort of segment register juggling or
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Feb 28, 2023 16:06
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tef posted:that's the thing, you pick your employer, not your jira tasks they can assign you whatever the gently caress in jira, you can bartelby the scrivener non-impactful work and it will go away.
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Feb 28, 2023 16:28
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distortion park posted:lol what are you on, jabber, sharepoint, and the ceo's nephew's spare time HR platform? lmao people occasionally complain that my corp phone number doesn't work and it's because we have jabber which is a piece of poo poo and I just disabled because it was crashing all the time but more importantly who the gently caress uses a work phone anymore anyway??? also we have sharepoint but I don't ever really have to touch it Internaut! posted:3 for 3 if HR platform includes time tracking systems and time tracking lol, because yes, I also work for a financial service corp and everything is driven off idiot budget theatre that we then have to fill out timesheets for I just slap in a week of "app management" every time and leave it at that, nobody has ever asked me why my actual doesn't match the budget allocations because nobody cares
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Feb 28, 2023 16:30
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also shout out to anyone else that has a megacorp Jira instance that has about 1 billion items in the dropdowns because everybody added their own versions for their project and some dumbass merged them all into one list
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Feb 28, 2023 16:35
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Jira is fine as long as it’s owned by someone at a very high level whose only job is to say “no” when people ask for a new field.
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Feb 28, 2023 16:47
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:also shout out to anyone else that has a megacorp Jira instance that has about 1 billion items in the dropdowns because everybody added their own versions for their project and some dumbass merged them all into one list lol
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Feb 28, 2023 17:04
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I just slap in a week of "app management" every time and leave it at that, nobody has ever asked me why my actual doesn't match the budget allocations because nobody cares our eng management realized that the only thing they ever really have to mark down is holidays or vacation time so that's made it easier for them to be like "ya Share Bear worked 144 hours in February" and no one really questions or microanalyzes it
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Feb 28, 2023 17:25
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distortion park posted:lol what are you on, jabber, sharepoint, and the ceo's nephew's spare time HR platform?
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Feb 28, 2023 17:34
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lifg posted:Jira is fine as long as it’s owned by someone at a very high level whose only job is to say “no” when people ask for a new field. yeah. jira has plenty of stupid design decisions, but the most egregious jira fuckups are always user created. i havent found a good alternative to it yet cause everything else only does a subset and usually doesnt do that subset as well as jira
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Feb 28, 2023 17:40
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It could be worse, it could be Asana!
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Feb 28, 2023 17:53
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Trapick posted:jira is probably the nicest tool my org uses, i live in hell Lol we just migrated to jira, our previous tool was version one.
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Feb 28, 2023 18:05
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Jira made me start using a WYSIWYG editor for ticket descriptions, so I canceled our department's subscription without asking anybody else first 
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Feb 28, 2023 18:37
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CPColin posted:Jira made me start using a WYSIWYG editor for ticket descriptions, so I canceled our department's subscription without asking anybody else first lol power move
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Sagacity posted:a lot of that is down to how your org has set it up I wish I had  for every time somebody says "you're holding it wrong" about JiraJira is No True Scotsman As A Service (NTSAAS)
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Feb 28, 2023 19:24
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so jira really does make you agile drat
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Feb 28, 2023 19:27
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jira is extremely good as long as you never ever install a plugin
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Feb 28, 2023 19:33
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Dijkstracula posted:nice yep, register juggling and manually moving things around in memory as necessary. conveniently the 8088 has the whole segmentation thing I wrote a big effortpost about last year so as long as your programs aren't using more than one segment (which is something you can kind of "enforce" by your "ABI" when you're doing something dumb like this) you can pause your scheduler, move stuff around, change the segment registers they use in their task structures, and turn the scheduler back on. kinda like doing a defrag for memory QNX solved this problem in 1982 so if I can't do it in 2023 with much better documentation and tooling I'm just gonna give up on touching computer
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my old startup job had a basically completely unconfigured JIRA which I used for grouping tickets by project and a really basic kanban board. it was nice and easy to navigate and pretty much entirely manual. my current job has a completely hosed implementation of JIRA where you can't drag issues between columns on the board, each issue has like 20 fields that I don't understand and no one uses, and the PM gets frustrated and says "it must've gotten lost in the transition to the new board" every other day why does it have to have all these buttons to group work and see who's working on what. why does the automated stuff not work. why can't I just put the subtask on the board without the epic being assigned to someone else and who configured this shitshow
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Feb 28, 2023 21:10
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CPColin posted:Jira made me start using a WYSIWYG editor for ticket descriptions, so I canceled our department's subscription without asking anybody else first our instance doesn't support backticks to embed code with markdown. the one thing i strongly feel about wanting to put in a ticket, and it just doesn't work. the code style button breaks have the time, so issues are just plaintext most of the time
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Feb 28, 2023 21:14
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The instance the rest of campus uses supports no formatting at all and I'm still not sure how that happened
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Feb 28, 2023 21:20
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the worlds best project management software where you can't assign two people to a ticket, you have to invent an entire vocabulary for stripping tasks down to their smallest traceable unit and being able to align them back up to a company effort instead of being like "12 rats and the new hire fixed the apache config. ticket done" im suspicious that anyone who intentionally uses or defends jira has ever performed non computer tasks at an employer
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herpes only has a nps of -80 jira is like +35 among management, but that -82 in eng is not a lie
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Its a Rolex posted:my current job has a completely hosed implementation of JIRA where you can't drag issues between columns on the board, each issue has like 20 fields that I don't understand and no one uses, and the PM gets frustrated and says "it must've gotten lost in the transition to the new board" every other day lol yea I've seen this. Particularly the "can't drag the issue between columns for some unknown reason" I also love it when you cannot progress the issue until you assign it to yourself, but you cant assign by selecting your name in the assign dropdown, you have to click assign and open a popup to select your name and submit it, otherwise it doesn't assign even though you show as the assignee!
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