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Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe
Just a blanket statement:

If anything anywhere ever sends you a code never provide that code to anyone.

You, actively, knowingly, intentionally logging in to or setting up a service you personally already know of or are a member of is the only reason to receive those codes, and they should only ever be entered into the site you're logging in to, not a site that anyone you don't trust (including email) linked you to.

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Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!
Yeah, it was incredibly dumb of me. The hacker probably was using multiple accounts to make me think I had a ton of interest, which encouraged me not think so clearly. I'm still trying to figure out how to recover the account of something I've never used before. I've changed several other passwords on accounts just in case.

Just got another super suspicious account that immediately asked me for my phone number. I told them if this is just another attempt to steal google voice just stop. They ended the conversation.

All these accounts with no personal information, just random pictures. Should've looked more closely.

EDIT: Okay, so I used this guide and I think I reclaimed my code. Switched my google and facebook passwords too just in case. Hopefully this beats the scammer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELZqQN-kmf0

Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Mar 11, 2023

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Don't take it out on yourself too much, these things can happen to the most savvy of us on a day you have a brain fart.

Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:
Yeah that's a devious way to exploit OTP. Totally makes sense in hindsight but absolutely designed to prey upon people in the moment. Glad you got yourself secured!

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Similar thing happened to me when I lost my rings- i didn’t send a code, but was frantic enough that I could see people doing so

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
It really seems like Google should require additional steps or info to set up such an account.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
I feel like just including "DO NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE" to any one-time-pin text would solve a lot of this. Some companies do it. Crazy that Google does not.

Also, Facebook Marketplace is an absolute cesspool and like 90% scammers, unfortunately.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
So it's Craigslist, just way more aggravating to use while harvesting as much data about you as possible

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!

SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

I feel like just including "DO NOT SHARE THIS CODE WITH ANYONE" to any one-time-pin text would solve a lot of this. Some companies do it. Crazy that Google does not.

Also, Facebook Marketplace is an absolute cesspool and like 90% scammers, unfortunately.

The text actually did say that, I fooled myself into thinking it might be a mistake, because why would someone ask for this otherwise. :negative:

Got a 7th scammer today, immediately said if you're after a google voice hack go away, no more response after that.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light
Got a new one today: a text telling me my EBT card has been locked.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

The text actually did say that, I fooled myself into thinking it might be a mistake, because why would someone ask for this otherwise. :negative:

Got a 7th scammer today, immediately said if you're after a google voice hack go away, no more response after that.

You could try adding "Alaye" to your reply. Supposedly it's a code word Nigerian scammers use to identify each other to avoid wasting each other's time. For those dating goons out there, it might be worth slipping in your dating profile. Perhaps as a middle/"nickname" in your name?


Mister Kingdom posted:

Got a new one today: a text telling me my EBT card has been locked.


That's loving evil as hell, jesus.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
If that was ever true then the code word was changed the moment it became public knowledge. Also there are far more Russian and Chinese scammers these days than Nigerian.

pumped up for school
Nov 24, 2010

I love the Craigslist ads where the seller says "NO SCAMMERS." Like a scammer reads that, snaps his fingers and says "Darn. Foiled again."

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
Scammers have a code, they have to tell you if you ask them, otherwise it's entrapment.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Scammers have a code but it's six digits and they're not supposed to give it out to anybody else.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
lol if scammers have to invent their own MFA/Identity Friend or Foe to make sure they dont call their own peeps.

there's a non zero chance they call the pal in the desk next to them and they still do the IFF process even though they hear the audio echo next tot them.

Fruits of the sea
Dec 1, 2010

Discendo Vox posted:

It really seems like Google should require additional steps or info to set up such an account.

So many companies don't bother to put any thought into their fraud prevention and messaging.

Technically not a scam, but when I last created a Paypal account, a week later I got a text from "Paypal" saying that my transaction limit had been raised to 4000 bucks. Of course I had done no such thing, so I immediately called my bank and reported fraud, ordered a new credit card and shut down my Paypal account.

Turns out this is something Paypal does automatically and they just communicate it in the most suspicious way possible. :argh:

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Still a big fan of windows blanking my screen during the windows 10 update and having the "All your files are exactly where you left them" make me reach for my phone to make sure I hadn't been gotten by one of the crypto scams

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

All your files are exactly where you left them :nsa:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Spatial posted:

All your files are exactly where I left them :nsa:

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

Fruits of the sea posted:

So many companies don't bother to put any thought into their fraud prevention and messaging.

Technically not a scam, but when I last created a Paypal account, a week later I got a text from "Paypal" saying that my transaction limit had been raised to 4000 bucks. Of course I had done no such thing, so I immediately called my bank and reported fraud, ordered a new credit card and shut down my Paypal account.

Turns out this is something Paypal does automatically and they just communicate it in the most suspicious way possible. :argh:

Lol

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

ilmucche posted:

Still a big fan of windows blanking my screen during the windows 10 update and having the "All your files are exactly where you left them" make me reach for my phone to make sure I hadn't been gotten by one of the crypto scams
drat near every aspect of Windows 10 is indistinguishable from malware

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Wondering what all the "hey, why haven't you texted me back? How are you?" messages I've been getting lately are all about.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


My daughter got her first phone for Christmas and even though I'm the only person who knows her mobile email address (Japan issues @provider addresses) she is starting to get fishing messages.

- You won the money prize!
- New phone let's catch up!
- Your package is scheduled to be delivered!
- Link without context

Can I assume that the mobile company itself is selling its customer list to these pests?

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

BiggerBoat posted:

Wondering what all the "hey, why haven't you texted me back? How are you?" messages I've been getting lately are all about.

Phishing for horny dudes. It's just gonna be the usual "Before I see you I need $200 in prepaid cards, please :love:"

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

peanut posted:

My daughter got her first phone for Christmas and even though I'm the only person who knows her mobile email address (Japan issues @provider addresses) she is starting to get fishing messages.

- You won the money prize!
- New phone let's catch up!
- Your package is scheduled to be delivered!
- Link without context

Can I assume that the mobile company itself is selling its customer list to these pests?

Is the address the phone number, or something that's reused by her? If the list was sold, it would at least be personalized spam for a higher click rate, so it's probably just the bad luck of having a number that got a lot of spam before.

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



peanut posted:

My daughter got her first phone for Christmas and even though I'm the only person who knows her mobile email address (Japan issues @provider addresses) she is starting to get fishing messages.

- You won the money prize!
- New phone let's catch up!
- Your package is scheduled to be delivered!
- Link without context

Can I assume that the mobile company itself is selling its customer list to these pests?

The company's not going to be selling lists to spammers, but an employee might be

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

Mister Kingdom posted:

Got a new one today: a text telling me my EBT card has been locked.

I work in social services and this scam is prevalent enough that my office sent out a notice and we're informing people that it's a scam.

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.

Volmarias posted:

Phishing for horny dudes. It's just gonna be the usual "Before I see you I need $200 in prepaid cards, please :love:"

These days it's more likely to be crypto scams/"pig butchering"; talking about how they make so much money through a friend/uncle who does investments for them on (website that was created 4 days ago), please deposit all your money and see these fake gains and pay these pretend fees and taxes to recover your money, you just need to pay a little more, forever!

El Spamo
Aug 21, 2003

Fuss and misery

Volmarias posted:

Is the address the phone number, or something that's reused by her? If the list was sold, it would at least be personalized spam for a higher click rate, so it's probably just the bad luck of having a number that got a lot of spam before.

That or there's a script that's just running through all possible numbers and spamming out messages to them. In the U.S. for example, the area code can be considered to be fixed and that leaves only a 7 digit number space to plow through. A discount desktop could get through that in a weekend.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Fruits of the sea posted:

So many companies don't bother to put any thought into their fraud prevention and messaging.

Technically not a scam, but when I last created a Paypal account, a week later I got a text from "Paypal" saying that my transaction limit had been raised to 4000 bucks. Of course I had done no such thing, so I immediately called my bank and reported fraud, ordered a new credit card and shut down my Paypal account.

Turns out this is something Paypal does automatically and they just communicate it in the most suspicious way possible. :argh:

I and innumerable other people have gotten mail from Vanguard with no identifying info, saying they need additional information to process something and to call a number not listed on their website. It is, horrifyingly, legit.

BiggerBoat posted:

Wondering what all the "hey, why haven't you texted me back? How are you?" messages I've been getting lately are all about.

They're from me. We need to talk about what happened that night in Cairo.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Sorry to say that it's a customized email address, not txts to the (recycled) phone number.
Japan still has sales calls but not aggressive spam and scammers like the US. We only ever get sales calls to our landline, not our mobiles. Since the 90s mobile numbers and area codes have been distinct from land lines (mobile 11 digits, wired 10 digits).

Waste of Breath
Dec 30, 2021

I only know🧠 one1️⃣ thing🪨: I😡 want😤 to 🔪kill☠️… 😈Chaos😱… I need🥵 to. [TIME⏰ TO DIE☠️]
:same:

Discendo Vox posted:

I and innumerable other people have gotten mail from Vanguard with no identifying info, saying they need additional information to process something and to call a number not listed on their website. It is, horrifyingly, legit.

the IT department gets pissed at me using the "report phishing" button on anything that looks sketchy

maybe the company should teach people to not send emails that check all the boxes of a phishing attempt? (high pressure, requesting sensitive information, out of the blue with no context, or an email with title + random link sent without elaboration)

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

My old job contracted with some provider to do anti phishing training. Their SSL certificate was expired and Firefox (correctly) yelled about it. I made a joke that I passed the training by closing the tab, luckily my boss was cool and thought that was hilarious.

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

pumped up for school posted:

I love the Craigslist ads where the seller says "NO SCAMMERS." Like a scammer reads that, snaps his fingers and says "Darn. Foiled again."

The same logic that the U.S. border control used for the first question on the short form you had to fill out to enter the U.S. as a tourist in the 90s. The form was just 6-7 yes/no questions, the first one was literally "Are you a terrorist?"

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Offler posted:

The same logic that the U.S. border control used for the first question on the short form you had to fill out to enter the U.S. as a tourist in the 90s. The form was just 6-7 yes/no questions, the first one was literally "Are you a terrorist?"

Wasn't there also one that asked if you were a Nazi?

Offler
Mar 27, 2010

Fil5000 posted:

Wasn't there also one that asked if you were a Nazi?

There was a question that went something like this when I applied for a student visa, also in the 90s:
"Were you at any time a member of NSDAP - The National Socialist German Workers' Party - between the years 1933 -1945?"

EricBauman
Nov 30, 2005

DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG
It's so they can deport (and bar entry for five years) you for the crime of lying to the govt even if you haven't committed any crimes that would otherwise be actionable by or in the US

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Offler posted:

The same logic that the U.S. border control used for the first question on the short form you had to fill out to enter the U.S. as a tourist in the 90s. The form was just 6-7 yes/no questions, the first one was literally "Are you a terrorist?"

These questions were still part of ESTA in 2019.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


When I traveled to India in 2015 to visit our colleagues in Kolkata, one of the questions on the sheet given to us ~30 min before landing was "do you have Ebola?"

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