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Cheston: Jul 17, 2012; (he's got a good thing going)

back when the oculus sale happened i was actually worried about facebook controlling VR.

i dunno why i believed that facebook dot com would let art, and not business requirements, define even the slightest aspect of their reality

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 01:48

EricBauman: Nov 30, 2005; DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

it's a mystery to me why some porn company hasn't put out a dedicated porn VR headset.

but then again, that market is a bit chaotic at the moment:

https://www.ft.com/content/69c3295e-6f45-4b5f-8e7b-3b8d56ca46c8
Pornhub owner sold to Canadian private equity firm Ethical Capital

it's a private equity group that specializes in weed, but i'm actually 80% sure this sale is just mindgeek buying itself another layer of obfuscation by bankrolling this acquisition from the background

# ? Mar 20, 2023 14:56

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

most likely yes

Mindgeek is basically the DeBeer of porn at this point

# ? Mar 20, 2023 14:58

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

infernal machines posted:

for quite a while all the top results for any search i did in bing were scams, you had to go to the second page of results to find actual results

i guess the problem is that content on publicly viewable websites basically isn't a thing anymore, outside of maybe reddit and stack overflow. everything is subscription services and app silos and nothing is indexed or publicly visible

nothing returns better results because the results don't exist, and all the old blogs and places you'd find niche subject specific content have had their domains and hosting expire over the last decade

that reminds me. the other day I was searching for some information about a particular medication combination and was getting the usual array of bullshit scraped-from-webMD spam sites so I stuck "Reddit" on the end of the search string.

and got at least one spam site that had apparently incorporated "Reddit" into the SEO string that was scattered around the article. the little preview read something like "Is taking (med A) (med B) reddit safe? (med A) (med B) reddit might be prescribed by a doctor to treat..."

so the spam sites are onto that trick now.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 14:59

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Shifty Pony posted:

that reminds me. the other day I was searching for some information about a particular medication combination and was getting the usual array of bullshit scraped-from-webMD spam sites so I stuck "Reddit" on the end of the search string.

and got at least one spam site that had apparently incorporated "Reddit" into the SEO string that was scattered around the article. the little preview read something like "Is taking (med A) (med B) reddit safe? (med A) (med B) reddit might be prescribed by a doctor to treat..."

so the spam sites are onto that trick now.

there are a lot of seo spam sites that just scrape forums and repost some subset of the text

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:02

Archduke Frantz Fanon: Sep 7, 2004

EricBauman posted:

it's a mystery to me why some porn company hasn't put out a dedicated porn VR headset.

but then again, that market is a bit chaotic at the moment:

https://www.ft.com/content/69c3295e-6f45-4b5f-8e7b-3b8d56ca46c8
Pornhub owner sold to Canadian private equity firm Ethical Capital

it's a private equity group that specializes in weed, but i'm actually 80% sure this sale is just mindgeek buying itself another layer of obfuscation by bankrolling this acquisition from the background

Yeah, especially since there is a lot of weird overwrought language from them about "we have fired the current mindgeek executives and replaces them all with a series of secret replacements who we will never reveal"

you cannot trust the quebecers

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:03

TerminalRaptor: Nov 6, 2012; Mostly Harmless

infernal machines posted:

there are a lot of seo spam sites that just scrape forums and repost some subset of the text

Yeah, that's been around for ages. It's especially annoying when it looks like there's an actual post on the forum in question, but the only indication of ever existed is in the SEO spam farm.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:23

Internet Janitor: May 17, 2008; "That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

Cheston posted:

back when the oculus sale happened i was actually worried about facebook controlling VR.

i dunno why i believed that facebook dot com would let art, and not business requirements, define even the slightest aspect of their reality

allowing furry and loli anime avatars is basically table stakes for creating a successful vr metaverse

i bet there are weekly meetings where facebook employees beg zuck to just flip the "allow furries" switch and save the project, and every time he coldly whispers "no."

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:33

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

i want facebook to announce they're allowing furries but only made using their avatar builder to ensure you can only make corporate-friendly soulless furry husks

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:37

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

Yeah, especially since there is a lot of weird overwrought language from them about "we have fired the current mindgeek executives and replaces them all with a series of secret replacements who we will never reveal"

you cannot trust the quebecers

lol

"hello, i am a ceo from, uh, ethical capital. yes, that will do"

# ? Mar 20, 2023 15:38

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

ethical capital teams up with Fraud Guarantee for the best business deal ever

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:14

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Beeftweeter posted:

lol

"hello, i am a ceo from, uh, ethical capital. yes, that will do"

the first article I read described the investors as including the weed guys and a criminal attorney

you know, things you�d witness and think it�s very important to very clearly communicate �I didn�t see anything happen here, have a good day�

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:18

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

Yeah, especially since there is a lot of weird overwrought language from them about "we have fired the current mindgeek executives and replaces them all with a series of secret replacements who we will never reveal"

you cannot trust the quebecers

This is likely a play to get Visa to start processing their payments again. They fixed the actual problem that caused the complaints a long time ago, but that didn't really move the needle (and of course it wouldn't, since the people who were writing NYTimes pieces about it didn't actually care about the revenge porn or rampant piracy of sex workers' content on PH, they just want to remove all porn from the internet).

The frustrating thing about MindGeek is that, as much as they are the DeBeers of porn, they were generally more ethical than what came before them. I recently read Oriana Small's memoir Girlvert, and some of the stories she recounts about being in the porn scene in the '00s are just bone-chilling. Having MindGeek running most of the major porn sites/studios is a bit like all the Vegas casinos getting taken over by entertainment corporations once the mobsters lost control.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:20

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

nah this is definitely where the mobsters running Vegas consolidate into larger businesses and stop fighting among themselves. that means they are concerned more about longer term stability than burning people for a quick profit

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:23

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

we'll know if something really changed if some new fetish starts pushing out the incest themed stuff, which was the old leadership's fetish

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:24

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

The_Franz posted:

we'll know if something really changed if some new fetish starts pushing out the incest themed stuff, which was the old leadership's fetish

Random internet post, 10 years from now: "Goddamnit, why do I have to search so hard to find a porno video that doesn't have somebody getting hit in the face with a pie?!? Surely people aren't really that into pies!?!"

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:28

Internet Janitor: May 17, 2008; "That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

Shame Boy posted:

i want facebook to announce they're allowing furries but only made using their avatar builder to ensure you can only make corporate-friendly soulless furry husks

five billion nights at markies

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:28

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

LanceHunter posted:

Random internet post, 10 years from now: "Goddamnit, why do I have to search so hard to find a porno video that doesn't have somebody getting hit in the face with a pie?!? Surely people aren't really that into pies!?!"

"goddamn it, i don't mean creampie in that sense!!!"

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:38

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

hobbesmaster posted:

the first article I read described the investors as including the weed guys and a criminal attorney

you know, things you�d witness and think it�s very important to very clearly communicate �I didn�t see anything happen here, have a good day�

should've gone with "blind captial" imo

# ? Mar 20, 2023 16:50

LanceHunter: Nov 12, 2016; Beautiful People Club

Amazon�s latest layoffs cut 9,000 more jobs in divisions including Twitch and AWS

quote:

Amazon is laying off another 9,000 workers, according to a memo to employees CEO Andy Jassy sent to workers on Monday. The employees affected by the cut include those in roles in AWS, Twitch, advertising, and human resources.

In his memo, Jassy cites the �uncertain economy� as the reason for the cuts and says the company has �chosen to be more streamlined in our costs and headcount.� Amazon just got done laying off a total of 18,000 people across the company late last year and in January, which included workers in its hardware and services, human resources, and retail teams.

�The overriding tenet of our annual planning this year was to be leaner while doing so in a way that enables us to still invest robustly in the key long-term customer experiences that we believe can meaningfully improve customers� lives and Amazon as a whole,� Jassy writes in the memo.

This also comes just days after Twitch CEO Emmett Shear resigned from his position, although it�s unclear whether that was related to the job cuts, as Shear will still remain at the company in an advisory role. As Twitch continues to evolve, recent changes to the way it splits the revenue with streamers have left some feeling frustrated, while some of the platform�s top streamers have swapped to game streaming rivals like YouTube.

How profitable is Twitch, anyways?

Also, I'm genuinely surprised to see cuts in AWS staff. That still seems like the big cash cow. I wonder if they're cutting engineering, support, or sales staff there.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:03

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

LanceHunter posted:

This is likely a play to get Visa to start processing their payments again. They fixed the actual problem that caused the complaints a long time ago, but that didn't really move the needle (and of course it wouldn't, since the people who were writing NYTimes pieces about it didn't actually care about the revenge porn or rampant piracy of sex workers' content on PH, they just want to remove all porn from the internet).

The frustrating thing about MindGeek is that, as much as they are the DeBeers of porn, they were generally more ethical than what came before them. I recently read Oriana Small's memoir Girlvert, and some of the stories she recounts about being in the porn scene in the '00s are just bone-chilling. Having MindGeek running most of the major porn sites/studios is a bit like all the Vegas casinos getting taken over by entertainment corporations once the mobsters lost control.

Mindgeek is based in Montreal so your analogy might be more accurate than you�d expect!

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:11

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

I�m not saying the mob runs Montreal, I don�t know anything about the mob, I�ve never heard of the mob

in fact I�ve never even heard of Montreal

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:12

Agile Vector: May 21, 2007; scrum bored

Shifty Pony posted:

that reminds me. the other day I was searching for some information about a particular medication combination and was getting the usual array of bullshit scraped-from-webMD spam sites so I stuck "Reddit" on the end of the search string.

and got at least one spam site that had apparently incorporated "Reddit" into the SEO string that was scattered around the article. the little preview read something like "Is taking (med A) (med B) reddit safe? (med A) (med B) reddit might be prescribed by a doctor to treat..."

so the spam sites are onto that trick now.

yeah, at least duckduckgo takes !reddit and redirects the search to reddit itself or suggests site filtering if a majority of results are from there which helps

my go-to example for this is specific ffmpeg and handbrake settings, which used to show very detailed forum threads and now show boilerplate ML word salad and a link to an app wrapper around ffmpeg for sale

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:16

Khorne: May 1, 2002

LanceHunter posted:

How profitable is Twitch, anyways?

They have about $3billion in yearly revenue. They're flirting near break even last I heard, +/- $300m or so.

If youtube added a livestream home page for discoverability and improved their chat ui to be like twitch+browser addons they could eat twitch's lunch practically overnight.

Khorne fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 20, 2023

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:17

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

Shifty Pony posted:

that reminds me. the other day I was searching for some information about a particular medication combination and was getting the usual array of bullshit scraped-from-webMD spam sites so I stuck "Reddit" on the end of the search string.

and got at least one spam site that had apparently incorporated "Reddit" into the SEO string that was scattered around the article. the little preview read something like "Is taking (med A) (med B) reddit safe? (med A) (med B) reddit might be prescribed by a doctor to treat..."

so the spam sites are onto that trick now.

you should be using the `site:reddit.com` flag to only get results from the reddit.com domain itself.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:19

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

The_Franz posted:

we'll know if something really changed if some new fetish starts pushing out the incest themed stuff, which was the old leadership's fetish

lmao are you serious?

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:21

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

LanceHunter posted:

The frustrating thing about MindGeek is that, as much as they are the DeBeers of porn, they were generally more ethical than what came before them. I recently read Oriana Small's memoir Girlvert, and some of the stories she recounts about being in the porn scene in the '00s are just bone-chilling. Having MindGeek running most of the major porn sites/studios is a bit like all the Vegas casinos getting taken over by entertainment corporations once the mobsters lost control.

that sounds like an interesting book or maybe a terrifying and depressing one idk

but anyway, lol

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:23

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

yea, that is a widely believed explanation for why there is suddenly so much incest porn. no idea if it�s actually true or how one would prove or disprove it tho

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:24

post hole digger: Mar 21, 2011

LanceHunter posted:

The frustrating thing about MindGeek is that, as much as they are the DeBeers of porn, they were generally more ethical than what came before them. I recently read Oriana Small's memoir Girlvert, and some of the stories she recounts about being in the porn scene in the '00s are just bone-chilling. Having MindGeek running most of the major porn sites/studios is a bit like all the Vegas casinos getting taken over by entertainment corporations once the mobsters lost control.

what evidence do you have to suggest that mindgeek is any better than what came before them?

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:27

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Agile Vector posted:

my go-to example for this is specific ffmpeg and handbrake settings, which used to show very detailed forum threads and now show boilerplate ML word salad and a link to an app wrapper around ffmpeg for sale

i hate this poo poo so much i have the ffmpeg documentation bookmarked lol

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:28

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

lmao are you serious?

i'm not sure its ever been confirmed but thats been the speculation for years now

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:29

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

LanceHunter posted:

This is likely a play to get Visa to start processing their payments again. They fixed the actual problem that caused the complaints a long time ago, but that didn't really move the needle (and of course it wouldn't, since the people who were writing NYTimes pieces about it didn't actually care about the revenge porn or rampant piracy of sex workers' content on PH, they just want to remove all porn from the internet).

The frustrating thing about MindGeek is that, as much as they are the DeBeers of porn, they were generally more ethical than what came before them. I recently read Oriana Small's memoir Girlvert, and some of the stories she recounts about being in the porn scene in the '00s are just bone-chilling. Having MindGeek running most of the major porn sites/studios is a bit like all the Vegas casinos getting taken over by entertainment corporations once the mobsters lost control.

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:34

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

FrozenVent posted:

I�m not saying the mob runs Montreal, I don�t know anything about the mob, I�ve never heard of the mob

in fact I�ve never even heard of Montreal

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Fat Tony: Bart, um, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?
Bart: No.
Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like...pornography?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving it away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no!

# ? Mar 20, 2023 17:39

OldAlias: Nov 2, 2013

post hole digger posted:

what evidence do you have to suggest that mindgeek is any better than what came before them?

yeah I�m not so sure lol. they are one of the quintessential Anglo employers in Montreal, it�s one of the places non French speakers commonly end up employed. tech is another viable route, but the lowest skilled among them end up in places like call centres or games QA, and mindgeek might be a step up from those. I�ve had a few friends who were employed there, one did webmaster stuff before getting better work elsewhere, and another basically chose the hover-over preview frames for videos, airbrushed assholes and brands out of photos &c.

anyway there are definitely some creeps employed there and creeps in management too, from what I understand it�s a toxic environment and if it was worse before that sucks a lot

# ? Mar 20, 2023 18:00

EricBauman: Nov 30, 2005; DOLF IS RECHTVAARDIG

Beeftweeter posted:

i'm not sure its ever been confirmed but thats been the speculation for years now

i think the explanation is easier.

pseudo incest (step stuff) is a fairly popular fetish, and one that doesn't require any specific sex acts (bdsm) or appearance (black or asian fetish).
this means you can easily add it to any other scene that's not already role-based (and even if it is! why not make that doctor/teacher also your stepdad?).
people who are into it will consider the scene to be up their alley.
people who are not into it will ignore the stepmom stuff because they think 'its just porn being porn' and will also buy it

so its just something you can add, almost as an afterthought, to appeal to a certain specific group, and you can mix it with pretty much anything else

# ? Mar 20, 2023 18:50

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i think more to the point, every time this gets brought up there's a chorus of "is it really a popular fetish?"

it really doesn't seem to be

# ? Mar 20, 2023 18:53

bob dobbs is dead: Oct 8, 2017; I love peeps; Nap Ghost

yeah theres literally a biological built in apparatus to prevent incest and prevent liking incest. practically a cultural universal that incest is not ok

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect

# ? Mar 20, 2023 18:56

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

bob dobbs is dead posted:

yeah theres literally a biological built in apparatus to prevent incest and prevent liking incest. practically a cultural universal that incest is not ok

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect

incest is one of a very very small list of nearly universal taboos

# ? Mar 20, 2023 18:59

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

more cultures are ok with cannibalism than incest

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Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

like yeah it's kind of easily ignorable if you realize the performers are not actually relatives, but i still find it pretty weird and i don't think that's an outlier opinion

# ? Mar 20, 2023 19:02

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