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Gnossiennes posted:i wish i knew how to find them tbh. at the recommendation of my old psychiatrist, i tried getting into psilocybin trials for treatment-resistant depression, but never got accepted not that I an suggesting you do this but they are super easy to grow you used to have to sterilise grains etc but someone worked out that those boil in a bag rice things are effectively sterilised grains and it lowered the barrier of entry so much, and the more that did it the more refined the methods got etc, and it also seems trivial in the US to order mushroom seeds if I lived a different life, I’d defo be into doing that I reckon. mescaline and psilocybin. just grow all your own drugs maybe one day I’ll move into the forest and truly find my calling as a bush wizard
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echinopsis posted:not that I an suggesting you do this but they are super easy to grow california is one of the few states you can't get spores legally lol granted psilocybin is decriminalized in a couple of cities, but i don't live in them
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what is weed, really? it’s hard to define
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what is weed? baby don't toke me, don't toke me, all right
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Gnossiennes posted:california is one of the few states you can't get spores legally lol I suspect it’s trivial, compared to other drugs people seem to consider spreading mushroom seeds as an act of kindness I mean there was the free earth spore ring, idk if anyone here knows it was but basically out of the kindness of their heart people would send in spore prints and then you could send a euro and they’d post a spore print from the collection to you. I wonder how globally that thing reached. hmm i’m tempted to make a yospos hallucinogen thread so people can share a tale and those that don’t want to dont have to be involved or even read it at all
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my biggest problem with weed is that i don’t have enough of it
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thinking of getting a dynavap or other flower vape, does anyone have recommendations or advice (and also will I need a proper grinder, presumably yes?)
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Mar 20, 2023 22:28
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i’ve heard mostly good things about dynavaps. i have a mflb and it’s kinda meh. it works fine as long as i keep the batteries charged up but most of the time i just prefer smoking a bowl instead
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Mar 20, 2023 22:33
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and yea, get a grinder with a kief catcher if you don’t have one
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Mar 20, 2023 22:34
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quiggy posted:thinking of getting a dynavap or other flower vape, does anyone have recommendations or advice (and also will I need a proper grinder, presumably yes?) I have a fury edge (v2? I forget) and i like it, you can order little metal cartridges for it to stash a few sessions of bud in so you dont have to prep it all the time. The vape thread in... Some grey forum was v helpful Also you can do oils and waxes with it (but NOT concentrates confusingly)
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Mar 20, 2023 23:18
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oils and waxes are types of concentrates
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Cartridges? Whatever most pens do idk i just get high im not down with the cool kids lingo
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quiggy posted:thinking of getting a dynavap or other flower vape, does anyone have recommendations or advice (and also will I need a proper grinder, presumably yes?) crafty or mighty. probably mighty unless you use android and really want to use an app
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Achmed Jones posted:crafty or mighty. probably mighty unless you use android and really want to use an app I don't know what this means
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Mar 20, 2023 23:58
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dynavaps are hardware store gadgets for teens o2vape dryonic is what i got bouncing around and it's pretty good https://o2vape.com/product/dryonic-ii-flower-vape-pen/
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Jonny 290 posted:dynavaps are hardware store gadgets for teens just curious, what makes you say this? i’ve never actually tried a dynavap but they seem to be well liked?
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you need a lighter to heat up a rock in it or something. its literally caveman stuff just a tarted up mflb
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quiggy posted:I don't know what this means it's pretty straightforward. you asked for vape recommendations and i recommended two. google can help ya make sense of the rest i guess. im not trying to be snarky here but i'm not really sure what you want from me on this
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here's a link: https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/catalog/product/view/id/610 the crafty is smaller and cheaper, but you set its temperature with an app. that app got pulled from apple years ago, but i assume is still available on android but idk. i think they have a web app or something you can use, but i still have the ios app from 2014 or whatever so haven't messed with it. if i had to buy one now id get mighty though. i mostly have it for migraine reasons and have no complaints
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quiggy posted:thinking of getting a dynavap or other flower vape, does anyone have recommendations or advice (and also will I need a proper grinder, presumably yes?) i have a pax 2 and like it a lot, but you gotta clean it regularly
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Achmed Jones posted:here's a link: https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/catalog/product/view/id/610 oh gotcha, did not parse that crafty and mighty are product names 
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oh also i missed the part where you asked about a grinder with the pax at least it's not strictly necessary, i've ripped up nugs by hand before and just tossed em in. but its less efficient i guess because it gets heated unevenly. a cheapo grinder works just fine though they stopped selling preground flower here when nug sales were legalized about a year ago and i actually really miss it. it was super convenient and i usually don't roll anymore because gently caress actually smoking
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joints do serve a purpose but they’ve largely been superseded but when you’re out and about and wanna carry something you can smoke and then all evidence etc is gone, they’re great. plus joints are cool
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i smoke joints exclusively
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more like loosevelt
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smoke the marijuana like a cigarette
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echinopsis posted:joints do serve a purpose but they’ve largely been superseded not caring about evidence anymore, i prefer a good old fashion dugout for smoking out and about town
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Gnossiennes posted:california is one of the few states you can't get spores legally lol come visit oakland you can legit just buy them in a shop it's ostensibly a church but uh, yeah on the other hand, while i havent checked in a while, a bunch of the things in TiHKAL have been readily available over the internet. i did grow shrooms once, but then discovered it was far easier to just buy a batch of 4-AcO-DMT from grey market sites. poo poo's literally recommended in scientific literature as "easier to source or synth for (actual) research than psilocybin and functionally the same thing" the US RC market has suffered in general from a combination of darknet markets making scheduled substances with better name recognition more readily available and increased customs scrutiny trying to find anything that might be drugs due to the fentanyl crisis, but classical psychedelics have generally remained one of the easier things to find because law enforcement doesn't care that much about them compared to drugs with more abuse potential
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we should make a thread fkr this stuff coz some don’t wanna read about it
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i don't do any drugs harder than weed, but if i did, i would never buy research chemicals from the internet UNLESS i had the ability to verify that this random white powder is what it says on the bag. can you tell it's 4-AcO-DMT without expensive chem lab equipment you don't have? are there easy testing kits for these things like they have for club drugs? one of the best things about weed (flower, not concentrates) is that you can look at it and smell it and easily get a good idea of the quality. and even an idiot can tell whether it's weed or not
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same with mushrooms pretty much too
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no pills, no powders, if it grows in the ground it's probably ok
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pharmaceutical cos are pretty trustworthy so pills are good actually, a script is fine too
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counterpoint: oxycontin i mean it's legitimately the right drug, no argument there. but it may say "take 1 every 8 hours" and you definitely should not
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counterpoint: prescribers are loving idiots and the dosage is left up to them they genuinely don't give a poo poo 99% of the time and will just go with whatever is most convenient for them and the pharmacy, who most of the time will not bother to check if it makes sense either sometimes they do, and catch obvious mistakes, but it's pretty rare
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prescribers are in a bad position post pill wave and are more likely to cut off pain patients due to politics & the possibility of losing their licence rather than prescribe proper doses these days. it’s a lovely state of affairs where it’s easier to get docs to work with you to find an appropriate dose to manage pain via OAT (opioid agonist treatment; maintenance) programs than pain clinics
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there’s no point moralizing about drugs. let people have access to safe supply and many of the problems will go away
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i don't do any drugs harder than weed, but if i did, i would never buy research chemicals from the internet UNLESS i had the ability to verify that this random white powder is what it says on the bag. can you tell it's 4-AcO-DMT without expensive chem lab equipment you don't have? are there easy testing kits for these things like they have for club drugs? grey market vendors have little incentive to not sell what they're putting on the tin in general. black market drugs step on poo poo because getting Xkg of pure cocaine is legitimately difficult (because it's literally illegal) and the customer base is more likely to be either naive or willing to buy whatever cut product they can get. if you're buying from a dealer at a club, they're likely the only option because you haven't brought your own drugs and you can't exactly step out to the nextdoor recreational drugs store to get something that's gone through appropriate regulatory vetting historically places would sell complete bunk (like literally flour or turmeric powder), but that kinda fell way off when darknet markets appeared. there's not much point trying to scam people on the online grey market when the online black market will sell something better. the grey market vendors that remain are generally selling what they say they're selling, because they're selling to a niche market risks are less that they're selling something entirely different than what they're saying they're selling something that isn't produced to pharmaceutical standards and contains harmful byproducts, or that they've inadvertently swapped inventory. those sorts of accidents led to the notorious MPTP and Bromo-DragonFLY incidents, but those are uncommon. it's admittedly a gamble, where you weigh that sort of thing happening versus getting a hosed street cut elsewhere as far as testing, https://www.drugsdata.org/ (and some similar services) exist to perform the expensive chem lab testing you don't have the equipment or expertise to confirm an exact chemical match, if you want to pay a fair amount and wait a while. outside that https://dancesafe.org/test-kits-and-risk-reduction/ and similar offer basic reagent kits that will usually distinguish between "sold as MDMA but it's actually meth or fent"
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just live somewhere with safe supply so you can get whatever prescribed to you. I don’t bother with it personally as all I do is my oat script and weed, but being able to just get your stuff from the pharmacy and store is immensely preferable to all the loving around and risk that goes into scoring drugs
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Qtotonibudinibudet posted:come visit oakland you can legit just buy them in a shop  ty for the recommendation, i've been looking for a reason to spend a day in the city or east bay.
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