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mystes posted:not to say that any of those startups will succeed, but there probably are a handful of legitimately useful applications that we haven't discovered yet this is a good point, but since those applications will (at present) be entirely at the mercy of a single external service provider like openAI, business-wise they're hosed by the nature of the relationship they must hand all their training data, live usage, and "secret sauce" prompts directly to a company that is perfectly positioned to undercut them
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lmao, extremely on point.
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i've been waiting for something like this to succinctly sum up how stupid this poo poo is, thank you
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armpit_enjoyer posted:https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/3914567-we-need-an-ai-rights-movement/ 
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Spatial posted:Yeah I support an AI rights movement - the Butlerian Jihad!
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qirex posted:those folks seem ripe for a huckster to pull a great and powerful oz/femputer schtick on them one of my favorite jokes on lower decks is the people of beta iii turning back to landru (from "the return of the archons") because "he had some good ideas" lmao
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wow! it's just like spike johnson's "she"!
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PIZZA.BAT posted:i've been waiting for something like this to succinctly sum up how stupid this poo poo is, thank you me, laughing at credulous Christians seeing the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese: lol loving morons also me, imagining a mind behind a text box that produces semi-coherent paragraphs: wow! sentience!
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post hole digger posted:Peter Thiel had this guy killed.
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i drew a gun and then got scared that it might shoot me
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i've been working on the performance of my hypercard-like thing for a while, and i finally got it to the point where it's usable on my trusty and mostly chickenproof xo-4 the olpc project is tech from an ancient popped bubble, so still somewhat relevant to this thread
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Internet Janitor posted:i've been working on the performance of my hypercard-like thing for a while, and i finally got it to the point where it's usable on my trusty and mostly chickenproof xo-4 olpc intersects with so many bad things about the tech industry - the mit media lab, rockstar designers, open source zealots, harmful ngos, white colonializer brain, corporate reputation washing and so much more. it's like a perfect icon of everything we're doing wrong as a culture to try to "help" others e: also: cool chicken
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good chicken
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how's the battery on that thing holding up?
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Internet Janitor posted:i've been working on the performance of my hypercard-like thing for a while, and i finally got it to the point where it's usable on my trusty and mostly chickenproof xo-4 that’s awesome, definitely going to make some use of this
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battery still gets easily 80% its rated capacity, and it can sit on a shelf powered off for months without discharging the xo-4 is arm7-based and roughly twice as fast as the more common i586 xo-1, so i still have a way to go before decker runs acceptably there, too
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qirex posted:olpc intersects with so many bad things about the tech industry - the mit media lab, rockstar designers, open source zealots, harmful ngos, white colonializer brain, corporate reputation washing and so much more. it's like a perfect icon of everything we're doing wrong as a culture to try to "help" others I highly recommend Morgan G. Ames's book The Charisma Machine: The Life, Death, and Legacy of One Laptop per Child. It's an academic text, so it can be a bit of a dense read, but the concept of "charismatic technology" that Ames lays out is pretty much spot-on behind 99% of the entire tech bubble. From the book description: quote:Drawing on fifty years of history and a seven-month study of a model OLPC project in Paraguay, Ames reveals that the laptops were not only frustrating to use, easy to break, and hard to repair, they were designed for “technically precocious boys”—idealized younger versions of the developers themselves—rather than the children who were actually using them. The Charisma Machine offers a cautionary tale about the allure of technology hype and the problems that result when utopian dreams drive technology development. The author spent months in the countries where OLPC programs were active, and has a really detailed account of exactly how the program was failing to actually help the people it was meant for.
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every government they talked to was like "hey can we get cheap windows laptops instead so we can teach people useful and marketable skills?"
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qirex posted:every government they talked to was like "hey can we get cheap windows laptops instead so we can teach people useful and marketable skills?" also the way the entire olpc project was made completely obsolescent by cheap android and ras pi devices was also lol
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qirex posted:every government they talked to was like "hey can we get cheap windows laptops instead so we can teach people useful and marketable skills?" ...and the nerdlingers in charge of the project were convinced that 1gb of storage was all that was needed, because they imagined that the kids using the laptops would be downloading lots of <1mb bits of code and hacking on open-source projects instead of doing what kids actually do and download games and media. According to Ames, even the teachers who were really positive on the OLPC program in their classrooms would usually have to spend a few hours at the beginning of class getting students to delete the videos on their computer so that they could re-install the programs that they were using for their lesson.
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the choice to write the ui and most of the built-in applications in 2005-era python, on hardware designed entirely around low cost and energy efficiency, tells you pretty much everything you need to know about the garbage-fire software side of the project an xo-1 can comfortably run directly from a small solar panel without a battery installed. it can cold-boot to a forth prompt in about a second. sugar is a bloated pile of crap that takes like 4 minutes to boot and is always painfully sluggish Internet Janitor fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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hmm, does credit suisse count for my toxx, you think? deutsche bank seems to be next the difference is that those peeps actually did hedge duration / interest rate risk successfully, but some poo poo always comes up bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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LanceHunter posted:...and the nerdlingers in charge of the project were convinced that 1gb of storage was all that was needed, because they imagined that the kids using the laptops would be downloading lots of <1mb bits of code and hacking on open-source projects instead of doing what kids actually do and download games and media. According to Ames, even the teachers who were really positive on the OLPC program in their classrooms would usually have to spend a few hours at the beginning of class getting students to delete the videos on their computer so that they could re-install the programs that they were using for their lesson.
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abraham linksys posted:hindenberg goin ham on block kinda fun https://hindenburgresearch.com/block/ Lotta mycrimes.mp3 going on here. Honestly kinda surprised to see Freddie Gibs in that mix. I would've assumed it would only be the younger guys dumb enough to do that kind of business electronically.
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so i looked into forth a while back and it actually seems pretty cool like 'cool for a computer language' cool, not actually cool, you know.
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armpit_enjoyer posted:https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/3914567-we-need-an-ai-rights-movement/ It's wild how few people with actual theory of mind knowledge work in the AI space. (I know they're there but they don't generate fun headlines)
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Just a Moron posted:Lotta mycrimes.mp3 going on here. Honestly kinda surprised to see Freddie Gibs in that mix. I would've assumed it would only be the younger guys dumb enough to do that kind of business electronically. all the dudes talking about putting a hit on someone through cash app are posturing. but people totally sell drugs over cash app, cause none of your customers carry actual cash.
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rotor posted:so i looked into forth a while back and it actually seems pretty cool
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Just a Moron posted:It's wild how few people with actual theory of mind knowledge work in the AI space. gpts are the ultimate apotheosis of frank jelineks note that "every time i fire a linguist, my speech recognizer gets better". or suttons bitter lesson i dont think non-backpropagation linguistics survives to 2030 bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 24, 2023 |
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aardvaard posted:all the dudes talking about putting a hit on someone through cash app are posturing. but people totally sell drugs over cash app, cause none of your customers carry actual cash. I figured as much about the violent crime stuff, but regularly doing drug transactions on an electronic seems loving wild to me. How does that not come back to bite people in the rear end? I guess the panopticon in my head is more competent or more petty than the one in real life.
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Just a Moron posted:I figured as much about the violent crime stuff, but regularly doing drug transactions on an electronic seems loving wild to me. How does that not come back to bite people in the rear end? I guess the panopticon in my head is more competent or more petty than the one in real life. just pay your loving taxes, they don't care about the rest
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Though I guess having a bunch of cash on hand is going to be more conspicuous to IRL cops, but once you get caught can't an investigator pull all that data?
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jfc, this is what we're teaching kids these days?
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forth is a stack-oriented language, you wouldn't want to learn it from someone who isn't stacked would you?
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Achmed Jones posted:forth is a stack-oriented language, you wouldn't want to learn it from someone who isn't stacked would you? oh god no
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how come the lady has huge nips but the guy doesn't have any at all did they fall off is that why hes making that face
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Beeftweeter posted:how come the lady has huge nips but the guy doesn't have any at all
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