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Shame Boy posted:product managers are fine if they do their job right because they make it so i don't have to talk to customers and that's great so they take the specifications from the customers, and they take them to the engineers because engineers are not good at dealing with customers?
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Expo70 posted:so they take the specifications from the customers, and they take them to the engineers they manage the product, yes also i both do not want to talk to customers and should not be allowed to talk to customers
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Apr 7, 2023 09:08
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Shame Boy posted:they manage the product, yes so you're saying the product manager has people skills edit: that they are good with people
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Apr 7, 2023 09:09
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Expo70 posted:so you're saying the product manager has people skills any competent manager should, that's a big part of the job of a manager but i'm less talking about people skills and more talking about their ability to present things diplomatically and not reflexively say "oh that's a dumbass idea, why would you want that"
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Apr 7, 2023 09:11
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Shame Boy posted:any competent manager should, that's a big part of the job of a manager given what i've heard from friends, about a lot of clients who don't have a clear vision of what they want, my take from that is you maybe should be allowed to climb into the ring with them, get a little dirty, maybe toss around a few beers and slip some very bad words once or twice when they do stuff that's really really stupid. maybe clients should get their feelings hurt as a treat you could brand it as "reactive design principle" or some poo poo like that and claim its a positive which cuts down on costs Expo70 fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Apr 7, 2023 09:13
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Expo70 posted:it feels like a shame that there isn't a law about this somewhere. how thee isn't in Europe blows my mind. it should be standardized that when you're moving, buttons only and eyes on the road please.  just lookit that poo pooKNOBS! The center of each one is a big pushbutton! (a/c, recirc and defroster, respectively). Parking brake on the right because gently caress the passenger. there's also a big lump on the passenger floorboard for the second cat, and the subwoofer's in their footwell. TBH it's not as uncomfortable as it looks over there also depicted is the oft laughed at fourthvent, below the screen. they designed it with 3 originally because once again, gently caress the passenger, but somebody said "add another vent so there's two for each" and welp
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Jonny 290 posted:
where do you put the first cat and how do you keep them from crawling out and bothering you while you drive
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Jonny 290 posted:
2021 Miata? Nice. Did they fix the lifter tick in the hydraulics which plagued the earlier models? inb4 you go full nissan-dad mode and say "idk its a box that drives me to work" -- anyway, be mindful of rust in the arches. okay carbrain aside its good to see such physicality in a cabin design but this leads me to think further: how much potential roadhead is lost because of centre-column, and how long did it take for that to stop factoring into customer purchasing decisions like it used to in the 50's and 60's? how many other "seemingly invisible" concerns exist in these vehicles that got designed out, lost or forgotten over the different eras? also its really good to see the touchscreen is small and not like big radar-ears-on-the-side-of-a-ginger-kids-head enormous like a lot of cars have now. i really am sick of the way everything has to have a touchscreen. its like all the smart-fridge dickheads migrated to car companies when their industry folded up and disappeared up its own rear end in a top hat. edit: roadhead is an industry in-word for any interaction between passenger and driver and doesn't necessarily mean the consumption of someone elses icecream in a moving vehicle. eye-contact, hand-holding, leaning/falling asleep on the driver (one a lot of people still brought vans specifically for in the 80's), passing objects back and forth, etc but yes its origins do begin with said icecream consumption Shame Boy posted:where do you put the first cat and how do you keep them from crawling out and bothering you while you drive out here asking the actual important questions i'm still convinced you're like the soul of a 17 year old girl trapped in an adult man, and not in a trans-way but in a "omg cat! i must pet you!" way Expo70 fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Apr 7, 2023 09:21
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product management is an administrative task that needs to be done. you gotta define the scope of what everyones working on i guess that doesnt necessarily mean you need a single dedicated person to do it on every project but i dont think its invalid to have it as a specific role
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Expo70 posted:2021 Miata? Nice. Did they fix the lifter tick in the hydraulics which plagued the earlier models? inb4 you go full nissan-dad mode and say "idk its a box that drives me to work" -- anyway, be mindful of rust in the arches. lol this thing is my fuckin childe, i already know way too much about it. anyways they originally just copy pasteyd the 2.0 from the 3, but it was found wanting and they spent 3 years tuning up the motor so it's significantly different from the "ND1" motor, went from 156hp to 181 and redline from 7200 to 7500. good block now.
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Jonny 290 posted:lol this thing is my fuckin childe, i already know way too much about it. anyways they originally just copy pasteyd the 2.0 from the 3, but it was found wanting and they spent 3 years tuning up the motor so it's significantly different from the "ND1" motor, went from 156hp to 181 and redline from 7200 to 7500. good block now. so you got the 2.0 litre variant then. I heard that Nakamura was kind of angry about this, because he thought a bigger engine contradicted the light-weight philosophy of the vehicle so you're not dancing revs and torque to keep the ride fun (which was originally part of the experience the car was designed around) -- kinda like unlocking some gun that makes all the enemies in an fps laughable to just mow down easily with W and LMB. ideal if you just want to not think and have a comfy dreamy experience i guess cuz yeah if you're stressed, power-tripping is absolutely super relaxing and undoes a lot of the misery on the way home. i wonder how much it affects the balance and agility. staying on topic, i am super glad it does have that dinky rear end touch screen. i wonder how many rokolites and bazingas wrap themselves around lamposts oozing over plaid?
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Expo70 posted:i wonder how many rokolites and bazingas wrap themselves around lamposts oozing over plaid? i hate that i understood this
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Shame Boy posted:i hate that i understood this 2023 is hating that you understood every word of a sentence that meant nothing in 2020 2024 is every word in that sentence becoming watercooler talk for everybody else
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Jonny 290 posted:
Correct answer for every problem. Expo70 posted:so you got the 2.0 litre variant then. I heard that Nakamura was kind of angry about this, because he thought a bigger engine contradicted the light-weight philosophy of the vehicle so you're not dancing revs and torque to keep the ride fun (which was originally part of the experience the car was designed around) -- kinda like unlocking some gun that makes all the enemies in an fps laughable to just mow down easily with W and LMB. ideal if you just want to not think and have a comfy dreamy experience i guess cuz yeah if you're stressed, power-tripping is absolutely super relaxing and undoes a lot of the misery on the way home.
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mobby_6kl posted:Correct answer for every problem. the way stuff just improves tends to remove a lot of "play" and the "fun" parts of getting certain things to work or behave reliably -- or the weird way people bond over imperfections like with LPs and cassettes and VHS and stuff like that because you learned to like them or play them like a game the way you're sort of... involved in the process because of the constraints i guess i get that improvement is good, but there has to be some weirdly specific german word for the grief at the loss of that play, when its no longer necessary due to the march of technological improvement and then another one where its the opposite and poo poo just gets replaced with worse poo poo like tactile for touch screens (and I'm sure you can think of 100x worse things) the third is when the march of progress is bringing something that just erases or deletes a headache from your life, because it was impossible to find any play in the difficulty or imperfection of that particular thing like these are three emotions i can't think of english words to describe i think "technological regret" is the closest thing i can get, or saudade which is portugese for something no longer attainable. Possibly the German sehnsucht, which is like, yearning for a thing you can't have but that's more spiritual I think? i wish we got more words to describe things we like/miss, rather than things we don't like/try to avoid, drat you negativity bias! edit: enshittification : ] Expo70 fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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did someone in here buy me this seinfeld av because i didn't have it like 4 hours ago and i'm very confused
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was thinking of finally retiring the ol' pony homunculus now that it's like 10 fuckin' years old anyway, but i'm a little miffed it got rid of my gay ascii skeleton e: also apparently it's from a file photo of jerry dating a 17 year old so i guess someone's accusing me of being a pedophile? or something?? Shame Boy fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Apr 7, 2023 15:32
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fart simpson posted:product management is an administrative task that needs to be done. you gotta define the scope of what everyones working on sounds like something a loving product manager would say
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like if you're gonna change my av at least have the common decency to put giant all caps red text screaming about what i've done, it's only polite
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Shame Boy posted:was thinking of finally retiring the ol' pony homunculus now that it's like 10 fuckin' years old anyway, but i'm a little miffed it got rid of my gay ascii skeleton it looks like the file photo of when he ruined a stereo to commit mail fraud did you piss off any postal workers lol
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:sounds like something a loving product manager would say guilty as charged
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Beeftweeter posted:it looks like the file photo of when he ruined a stereo to commit mail fraud google thinks it's from a picture of him dating a 17 year old but i like yours better 
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yeah i recognized it immediately. wasn't me though 
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oh. i thought it might be a grayscale version of this "that doesn't look like a man happy with his stereo performance, does it?"
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i did have someone buy me an angry redtext av accusing me of this before like seven years ago because i had made them mad (cuz i was making fun of node.js iirc lmao) so they went through my post history and found a shitpost where i was talking about loving someone in highschool and didn't think to make it 100% crystal clear that i was also in highschool at the time, so maybe they're still mad about node.js??
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i know im mad about node.js all the time but probably in the correct way
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Shame Boy posted:i did have someone buy me an angry redtext av accusing me of this before like seven years ago because i had made them mad (cuz i was making fun of node.js iirc lmao) so they went through my post history and found a shitpost where i was talking about loving someone in highschool and didn't think to make it 100% crystal clear that i was also in highschool at the time, so maybe they're still mad about node.js?? being still mad at nodejs seems reasonable
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:i know im mad about node.js all the time but probably in the correct way
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Shame Boy posted:product managers are fine if they do their job right because they make it so i don't have to talk to customers and that's great a good product manager is an incredible productivity multiplier and i have to assume that everyone who complains about the profession as a whole has never had the good fortune to work with one i hate that scene in office space
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i work with nodejs every day and i'm mad at it
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fart simpson posted:being still mad at nodejs seems reasonable
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tired: nodejs wired: chodejs
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Armitag3 posted:tired: nodejs our codebase is quite wide, but not very deep
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you know shame boy, making a huge thing venting your spleen about a weird innocuous avatar doesn't exactly discourage people from buying you weird avatars. either replace it or don't but enough already
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Achmed Jones posted:you know shame boy, making a huge thing venting your spleen about a weird innocuous avatar doesn't exactly discourage people from buying you weird avatars. either replace it or don't but enough already this particular one can be read as an accusation of
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i mean ok but that "can" is doing a lot of heavy lifting imo
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ask any mod to blank it, it's free and you can get on with your day. maybe iks can blank them too.
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Achmed Jones posted:i mean ok but that "can" is doing a lot of heavy lifting imo
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Achmed Jones posted:i mean ok but that "can" is doing a lot of heavy lifting imo sure but if that thought got in your head how would you be reacting?
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well, probably not by jumping up and down about how my goat has been got and i'm taking this Very Seriously. i'm still trying to wrap my head around who can go "ahh yes this picture of jerry seinfeld is a crop from a photo of him dating a 17 year old". maybe im just old and out of touch if i was actually freaked out id ask a mod to blank it probably. but idk, i've never been the victim of targeted seinfeld-avatar-based dunks
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