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ED: God I'm so sorry for this wack-rear end page snipe. I mean, with Star Trek in specific being notorious for excessive starship porn flyby action, why did we only get so little D? I wanted more D! GIVE ME THE D! Moving on....Remember The Titan. A. Remember The Titan-A Shaw Did Nothing Wrong SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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It does matter how and why they're working together. Otherwise you start down the road of things like the Wrath of Borg-Khan. or Daimon Borg Strikes Back.
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Thom12255 posted:Bajorian dude said last episode he has a son right? And he's under 25 and in Starfleet? How'd he have time for that? How did someone find time to make a kid before they turned 25? 
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Apr 13, 2023 15:48
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Zesty posted:How did someone find time to make a kid before they turned 25? "Well, like Captain Kirk said, if it's important, ya make the time." (Or Bajorans just age differently from humans at a certain point, I dunno/care.)
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Apr 13, 2023 15:58
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Pinterest Mom posted:Yes? Like, when the Dominion teamed up with Cardassia, or when the Romulans were giving aid to the Dominion, it was made clear what everyone was getting out of it. Everybody has motivations, we knew why they were doing it, we understood the dynamics of the collaboration and how it changed over time, and it helped develop both sides. This is why it matters. Star Trek in universe has a very, very defined political system and alliances and how and why those exist. When the Romulans supported the House of Duras you know exactly how and why. When the Cardassians join the Dominion out of desperation you know exactly how and why. When the Borg Queen decides to work with Janeway out of survival against the Undine, in the most rare moment of alliance by necessity, you know exactly how and why. Star Trek traditionally is a show that trusts its audience with a great amount of detail to the world. This just wants us to go "LOL I HATE FEDERATION, YOU HATE FEDERATION" and that's it.
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Apr 13, 2023 15:59
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You don’t need to have alien aging to have sex before the age of 25, Star Trek thread.
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Apr 13, 2023 16:00
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Zesty posted:You don’t need to have alien aging to have sex before the age of 25, Star Trek thread. *Snarls in Tellarite*
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Apr 13, 2023 16:01
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why borg every time
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Apr 13, 2023 16:05
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Why no mention of the Federation, only Starfleet?
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Apr 13, 2023 16:07
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Risk Aversion. This season was inspired by that “most watched Star Trek episodes” Netflix put out a couple years ago.
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Apr 13, 2023 16:08
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Zesty posted:You don’t need to have alien aging to have sex before the age of 25, Star Trek thread. He's probably just Bajorian Catholic.
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Apr 13, 2023 16:09
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Thom12255 posted:He's probably just Bajorian Catholic. i think i read his name was Matthew? Bajoran named Matthew? so it checks out
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Thom12255 posted:He's probably just Bajorian Catholic. They do kinda have a Space Pope
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I'm enjoying S3 of Picard and it's hitting a lot of TNG nostalgia buttons, but I can't deny that it's making some really dumb narrative and worldbuilding choices. using the Changelings/Founders instead of antagonists tied to the TNG cast? Reusing the Borg as the main antagonists of the season when I thought the entire point of the Jurati/Borg Queen arc in S2 was to take the Borg off the table as go-to Trek villains for a while?
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Apr 13, 2023 16:31
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The Changelings thing makes a lot more sense when you read Matalas' admission they were originally supposed to be the Conspiracy bugs until he realized they murder their hosts.
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There was some throwaway post from one of the producers or something that was posted in the last couple pages, something about how we're "in the endgame now" and I can't help but feel like they're gonna open-palm slam Janeway into this thing even though they said they wouldn't. It would be very funny to me if Star Trek: Patrick Stewart's Ego Project ended with Kate Mulgrew saving the day.
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I mean, the Picard Writers Room doesnt seem to care about keeping things consistent with even itself, so just...change how the conspiracy bugs work?
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Mokinokaro posted:The Changelings thing makes a lot more sense when you read Matalas' admission they were originally supposed to be the Conspiracy bugs until he realized they murder their hosts. I completely missed this but that would have been more satisfying. Not sure why you couldn't just use the same "Section 31 experimented on them and now their biology works differently" explanation that they used for the Changelings
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Was Picard ever really nostalgic or in love with the Enterprise the same way Kirk was? I don't think he was and it makes the end of this episode really weird.
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Pyroi posted:I mean, the Picard Writers Room doesnt seem to care about keeping things consistent with even itself, so just...change how the conspiracy bugs work? Barry Convex posted:I completely missed this but that would have been more satisfying. Not sure why you couldn't just use the same "Section 31 experimented on them and now their biology works differently" explanation that they used for the Changelings Lmao that we poo poo all over TNG and DS9 lore, but the Conspiracy parasites are precious babies who cannot be touched! Hell of a sacred cow Terry. Just...yeah alter how the bugs work because they were experimented on by Daystrom. Hell that makes more loving sense. If I remember correctly aren't the Bugs from the Delta Quadrant? They are in STO at least.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Was Picard ever really nostalgic or in love with the Enterprise the same way Kirk was? I don't think he was and it makes the end of this episode really weird. Your first love (Stargazer) v. the one you marry (The D)
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Drone posted:It would be very funny to me if Star Trek: Patrick Stewart's Ego Project ended with Kate Mulgrew saving the day. Nah, there is no loving way they aren't going to have Picard ram the D into something in a sacrifice to save everyone. They'll find a way to reverse to use the transporters on the D to filter the Locutus Jizz out of crew, or teleport all under 25s over, and it will crash into the sun or some borg cube that will turn up at the last moment.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Was Picard ever really nostalgic or in love with the Enterprise the same way Kirk was? I don't think he was and it makes the end of this episode really weird. No In the episode Relics with Scotty he specifically says the Stargazer his first command was his true first love and he never forgot that old ship, while Scotty is reminiscing about the Conny Picard's first ship love is the Stargazer, that he never stops reminiscing about in TNG. Even in Generations when the D crashes he's just kinda "eh whatever".
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Jose Oquendo posted:Was Picard ever really nostalgic or in love with the Enterprise the same way Kirk was? I don't think he was and it makes the end of this episode really weird. If anything he was more sentimental toward the Stargazer than to the Enterprise.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Your first love (Stargazer) v. the one you marry (The D) It made me think of when the Enterprise was blowed up in Star Trek 3 and then in Generations. Kirk has a real moment. "My god Bones what have I done" Picard: Welp they'll just make another one (tosses ancient artifact across the room)
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Honestly Sisko is more attached to the Defiant than Picard is to the D.
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I think this is the fifth new-trek season plot that's boiled down to "what if computers did bad things if you hooked them up to each other", maybe if they do a sixth Kurtzman fills out his punchcard for a free sandwich
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 that STO put more time and thought in having the galactic political ramifications of having the Iconians of all groups come back and working with Romulans and what that would look like, and it's way less schlock and stupid than "BORG/ CHANGELING STRONG WE HATE FED" logic in this.Lmao TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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The Chairman posted:I think this is the fifth new-trek season plot that's boiled down to "what if computers did bad things if you hooked them up to each other", maybe if they do a sixth Kurtzman fills out his punchcard for a free sandwich It's also the Battlestar Galactica miniseries. The one ship in the fleet that isn't networked with all the others that have been taken over by the robot enemy? It's the one that's a museum.
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Half the people gushing about this show on Twitter are blue checks with bios like "Digital Media Strategist" and "Senior Vice Brand Coordinator Lead". Coincidence?
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Pinterest Mom posted:It's also the Battlestar Galactica miniseries. The one ship in the fleet that isn't networked with all the others that have been taken over by the robot enemy? It's the one that's a museum. So they stole from Ron Moore twice. Can we rip off For All Mankind for the hat trick?
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Trixie Hardcore posted:One of my favorite things about seeing TNG in HD is how poorly suited the makeup is for HD. Everyone is rouged up like harlots and all the fake scars look like they were bought at Spirit Halloween. I love it when you can see the lines where the appliance connects to the face and they don’t convincingly blend it out. I can’t explain why but I think it’s delightful. Going back a few pages, but I love this as well because it both shows the era the show was made in, as well as giving a feeling of what it must have been like to make it. We've always known that many of the sets were shaky, and the props less detailed and polished than cheap toys, yet on TV they all looked cohesive. In HD we see how much of it looks like a stage show, and suddenly can see how the actors would have seen it, yet still gave passionate performances.
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Pity the Borg just now make your eyes grey. No body horror tendrils jumping out all over your face, losing limbs to be replaced by weird things.
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Star Trek Picard: I hope they die quickly
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Fully arresting this nosedive would take a miracle, but each episode makes it more and more insane they've not gotten colm meaney to show up.
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Jose Oquendo posted:Was Picard ever really nostalgic or in love with the Enterprise the same way Kirk was? I don't think he was and it makes the end of this episode really weird. Not really but he did hang on to command of the Enterprise long enough that Riker gave up and accepted command of another ship.
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BiggestBatman posted:Fully arresting this nosedive would take a miracle, but each episode makes it more and more insane they've not gotten colm meaney to show up. Armed with a welding torch and a bag of self-sealing stem bolts, Miles saves the day.
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BiggestBatman posted:Fully arresting this nosedive would take a miracle, but each episode makes me more and more relieved they've not gotten colm meaney to show up.
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A real crime not to have Worf beam over to the Defiant and bring it along on Terry Matalas' Wild Ride.
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BiggestBatman posted:Fully arresting this nosedive would take a miracle, but each episode makes it more and more insane they've not gotten colm meaney to show up. He's gonna turn off the fleetwide wifi
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