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unfortunately i can’t make that the thread title
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haveblue posted:the internet was always islands of life in a desolate wasteland but the wasteland has gotten larger and more treacherous and the islands walled themselves in Idgi
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May 15, 2023 15:44
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Alan Smithee posted:Idgi why
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May 15, 2023 15:49
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Alan Smithee posted:Idgi he said, while posting on a forum that requires an entry fee to participate in conversation
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May 15, 2023 15:55
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 https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/telly-free-4ktv-second-screen-advertising-ilya-pozin-1235611509/ One step away from having to yell McDonalds at the tv
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May 15, 2023 16:31
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one free dumb 4K TV and a roll of opaque tape please
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May 15, 2023 16:38
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i figure they must have thought of that, right? either the lower screen is required to operate the tv somehow, or it has a light sensor that means it can't be covered up, or the ads play sounds too, or something. or perhaps they just didn't think of it and this is an idea on par with whatever company it was that was just giving away free movie tickets with no other apparent business model
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May 15, 2023 16:43
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I think the business model is to milk VCs for cash??
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May 15, 2023 16:44
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Haven’t bought a tv in over a decade. Don’t new ones have ad banners and poo poo
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May 15, 2023 16:45
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they did think of that. the terms of service requires you to:quote:(a) Use the Product as the primary television in Your household; you also have to give them a credit card so they can charge it if you try to keep the TV after they catch you breaking these rules that said, human ingenuity is unlimited and the TV's ability to verify whether photons from the ad screen are reaching eyeballs is limited
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May 15, 2023 16:46
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isn't a cheap 4k tv like sub 300 bucks now anyway and you know this is the cheapest poo poo panel they could find, since they're taking a loss on it up front
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May 15, 2023 16:48
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just place a loving table in front of the screen, I didn't see anything in the rules about dictating the feng shui of your house
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May 15, 2023 16:49
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the next version of this business model will involve periodic house inspections, clearly
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May 15, 2023 16:52
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Alan Smithee posted:Haven’t bought a tv in over a decade. Don’t new ones have ad banners and poo poo most smart tvs show ads in the ui if you have them connected to the internet, yes. you either face to ads or don't use any of the smart functions and never connect them to a network. alternatively, you can spend forever janitoring block lists on your home network.
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May 15, 2023 16:58
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smart TVs still have HDMI inputs so you can pair one with your preferred STB and have a no-ad experience, except for the rare times you have to go into a system menu (for now, at least)
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May 15, 2023 17:01
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Yeah there is definitely some marketing scumbag at one of the big TV manufacturers trying to get the engineering team to just plaster an ad over the HDMI input regardless of whats on screen.
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May 15, 2023 17:06
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yes, if you just use them as an HDMI monitor, they work fine and you'll never see an ad. the difficulty comes from wanting to use the "smart" functionality and apps on the tv
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May 15, 2023 17:06
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quote:Telly’s bet is that it will be able to generate a return on the major upfront investment of getting its ad-enabled TVs in front of U.S. consumers. It’s not clear how long it might take Telly to recoup the sunk costs of the free TVs. Pozin argues that the unusual business plan is “a revolutionary step forward for both consumers and advertisers.”
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May 15, 2023 17:23
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the only ads I get on my roku tv are on the home screen and they’re still banners for new shows or movies that are on roku streaming. it’s probably the least annoying or invasive
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May 16, 2023 12:54
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any device or service i paid money for should have precisely zero ads on it
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May 16, 2023 13:18
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Sweevo posted:any device or service i paid money for should have precisely zero ads on it
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May 16, 2023 13:57
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Netflix, Hulu: "let's go Dutch?"
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May 16, 2023 14:32
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mobby_6kl posted:
quote:“Telly is giving away the device completely free,” said Pozin, the company’s founder and CEO. “The business will be entirely supported by advertising and affiliate revenue.” Pozin: "we call this secondary screen 'the neg hole' "
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May 16, 2023 14:36
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does anyone know what happened to mark pauline? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cp7aD0q63g
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May 16, 2023 19:46
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infernal machines posted:most smart tvs show ads in the ui if you have them connected to the internet, yes. pihole blocks them on my samsung TV but you can't seem to disable their stupid "press down in menu to see Samsung's idiot internet TV channel" thing.....though now I think about it I haven't seen if I can block whatever that calls to as well
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May 16, 2023 23:27
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it seems like the only smart tv you should buy is something like a Roku one because it has the same ui as the standalone ones that can’t be too annoying
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May 17, 2023 01:48
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the answer “don’t buy a smart tv” appears to no longer be possible
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May 17, 2023 01:49
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you should be able to find a smart TV that defaults to an HDMI input on boot, then get an STB or dongle that doesn’t suck
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May 17, 2023 01:51
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lg makes them, i have one. it's a great monitor
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May 17, 2023 01:55
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haveblue posted:you should be able to find a smart TV that defaults to an HDMI input on boot i havent seen a lot of tvs but all the tvs i have just boot up to whatever input was last active
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May 17, 2023 02:01
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wish i could get one that just started pushing frames from the input to the screen without having to "boot up" first, but what can you do?
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May 17, 2023 02:04
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Jabor posted:wish i could get one that just started pushing frames from the input to the screen without having to "boot up" first, but what can you do? just dont turn it off i guess
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May 17, 2023 02:11
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idk about boot times, my cx takes a bout two seconds from pressing power to having an image on screen, which is considerably faster than the warmup of any crt i owned
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May 17, 2023 02:15
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yeah my crappy vizio m series maybe takes 1-2 seconds. its not bad at all, but its not as instant as an old dumb lcd either
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May 17, 2023 02:16
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theres a lot of dumb poo poo about smart tvs but i dont really feel like a couple of seconds of boot time is one of them
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May 17, 2023 02:31
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these phosphors take too long to glow!!!!
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May 17, 2023 03:12
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in defense of modern smart tvs, i have an LG A2 (entry level oled) and i just use the hdmi ins and it doesnt push ads or anything. its just a big monitor for me. that being said, they're hip to our game of buying Commercial Displays, and the modern CDs in the "double price, not 5x price" tier are all just smart TVs with corporate branded smart code, they're not the dumb hdmi yeeters you're dreaming of any more. that door is closed
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May 17, 2023 04:33
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my computer monitors throw up a dell logo during boot, so i dont see why its unreasonable for a tv to do the same thing. the big vizio V for a handful of seconds is fine, the receiver isnt even going to be warmed up for tens of seconds anyway
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May 17, 2023 07:12
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Raluek posted:my computer monitors throw up a dell logo during boot, so i dont see why its unreasonable for a tv to do the same thing. the big vizio V for a handful of seconds is fine, the receiver isnt even going to be warmed up for tens of seconds anyway one of the funniest things to me is how youtube can't sync HDR mode on ads with the videos, so when i play a kpop song in 4k hdr, it spends 4.3 seconds of my tv's blank time trying to play a 5 second ad, i hit 'skip' and we go back to where we were. They don't exactly have a vise grip on this poo poo
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if i turn on my apple tv, it auto-boots the TV at the correct input. same deal with my switch. those are the only two use cases for my TV. works fine.
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