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howe_sam posted:Vegas Stadium bill dead? https://twitter.com/jaclynfox5vegas/status/1666018279880822784 but this seems to confirm it is dead extra lmao, that reporter is citing the NV legislature's speaker of the house, who's twitter banner is this: 
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Nothing is ever dead if a legislature is in session, the Gov could have his arm twisted or pockets filled such that he adds it to the agenda before the special ends in 20 days. But it don't look good!
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Jun 6, 2023 16:44
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If a billionaire in America wants something, heaven and earth will be moved for it to happen.
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Not if other billionaires don't want that thing.
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drat hell ya that’s super fast I hope he’s a monster
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Boy it would be nice if another NL Central team would call up some of their hottest prospects.
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zoux posted:Nothing is ever dead if a legislature is in session, the Gov could have his arm twisted or pockets filled such that he adds it to the agenda before the special ends in 20 days. But it don't look good! I'm not quite clear how these special sessions in Vegas work, but apparently while the governor is the one who can call and set the agenda for these special sessions, the bill has to actually be brought forward by the majority leader to be considered and the word is that the current majority (the democrats) aren't going to do it. Also apparently Nevada has weird small government laws that prevent their state government from meeting very frequently so they can't get another vote in regular session on this ballpark thing until 2025 at the earliest lol zoux posted:Not if other billionaires don't want that thing. This is something I've heard the local media sources point out as a differentiating factor between the A's stadium push and the environment the Raiders were operating in 4 or 5 years ago.. Everyone seems to agree that the critical factor in getting the Raiders stadium bill through was that Sheldon Adelson threw his weight behind it, and pretty much nobody in Nevada had more influence than Sheldon Adelson.. the A's have no such local champions, in fact the casino industry seems very lukewarm on the whole idea with the most you get out of them quotes like "we're ok with it as long as we don't have to pay anything towards it in new taxes" It just seems like there was never any real local enthusiasm for the A's or this bill.
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Starsfan posted:I'm not quite clear how these special sessions in Vegas work, but apparently while the governor is the one who can call and set the agenda for these special sessions, the bill has to actually be brought forward by the majority leader to be considered and the word is that the current majority (the democrats) aren't going to do it. I don't know about NV legislature stuff either but that's how it works in practice in the bicameral system. The governor can't force a legislative chamber to consider an issue.
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Marlins watchers: Luis Arraez hits into a fair number of double plays, so why does he get a decent number if intentional walks?zoux posted:Blue is bad red is good whew
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zoux posted:I don't know about NV legislature stuff either but that's how it works in practice in the bicameral system. The governor can't force a legislative chamber to consider an issue. At least for the second bit I think they're talking about the fact that NV's state legislature only meets every other year (lol) so if the stadium deal isn't brute forced into the special session somehow then the next time it could be considered is... 2025. Fuckin'  if Fisher has to go back to Oakland hat in hand and beg them to revive the Howard Terminal project.
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I think the A's have to have a deal in place or they lose revenue sharing, correct? If so
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Just an incredible display of making GBS threads all over yourself by Fisher and whoever is putting this debacle together.
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This whole thing feels like it was done at the last minute by Fisher not realizing that it’s not a big priority for Nevada, and he also would get a worse deal than what Oakland was offering
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^^there were some elements of this that always made me think that the primary purpose of pursuing this funding bill in Nevada was for leverage against the city of Oakland.. the fact that the proposed ballpark plan is completely unworkable, the fact that the bill that is being proposed doesn't mention the A's or the Tropicana site by name.. the fact that the proposed deal is arguably worse than what Oakland was offering before... To me this screams that if the bill got passed they would have just went back to Oakland with that in their back pockets and asked them to up their offer. Nevada going through the motions of bringing this to committee to demonstrate to the MLB that they are serious about having an expansion baseball team to come to Vegas. General Bullshit posted:I think the A's have to have a deal in place or they lose revenue sharing, correct? If so i think the assumption all along has been that they can just ask for an extension from the MLB for the deadline if needed Starsfan fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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how hosed does Fisher need to be before he decides to throw in the towel and sell the team I wonder?
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bawfuls posted:how hosed does Fisher need to be before he decides to throw in the towel and sell the team I wonder? local sources in Oakland are saying there's a 0% chance Fisher sells the team prior to getting his public money windfall and a new stadium built (and the corresponding increase in team valuation). Like I don't think the guy actually enjoys owning a MLB team, he never talks to the media and seems to have absolute contempt for the fans.. it's fun to talk about how the GAP stock has collapsed and how he may be close to broke and need to sell, but the fact that he can pretty much have the team limp along on his TV deal and revenue sharing paying all his expenses makes me think that he's going to stick it out.. I don't think he loses money on this team.
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The pathway to him selling isn't that the A's are losing money, it's that the A's are the only way to backstop his failures elsewhere. IIRC he's got some pretty usurious loans hanging around using the A's as collateral. He's not actually incredibly wealthy and considerations like that do come into play for him personally, probably.
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Starsfan posted:^^there were some elements of this that always made me think that the primary purpose of pursuing this funding bill in Nevada was for leverage against the city of Oakland.. the fact that the proposed ballpark plan is completely unworkable, the fact that the bill that is being proposed doesn't mention the A's or the Tropicana site by name.. the fact that the proposed deal is arguably worse than what Oakland was offering before... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/03/details-on-the-athletics-revenue-sharing-status.html
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https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1666163292945936385?s=20 Manoah to rookie ball to try to figure out what the gently caress is wrong with him. Hope he gets sorted out, I like big personalities.
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Jun 6, 2023 20:29
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Send his rear end back to college.
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Jun 6, 2023 20:49
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I always appreciate the Astros whooping up on a pitcher so bad he gets sent to the shadow realm.
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zoux posted:Not if other billionaires don't want that thing. The only reason Peter Nygard (basically the Canadian Jeffrey Epstein) got caught is because his billionaire neighbor in the Bahamas got mad at his loud parties and started a huge campaign against him.
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The billionaire's only natural predator is other billionaires.
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camoseven posted:https://twitter.com/BlueJays/status/1666163292945936385?s=20 I'm curious, have there been any good writeups on what exactly is wrong with him this year? I asked way earlier in the year and at the time it was just speculation about the pitch clock having him shaken but we've gotta be past that by now. I saw the chart earlier about how basically everything other than his fastball spinrate being worst in the league, but of course that's more symptom than disease.
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...has anyone been optioned straight to rookie ball before? e: Oh, duh, Rick Ankiel got sent to rookie ball. That's where they figured out he could hit for power and had a cannon arm in the outfield. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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Hand Knit posted:I'm curious, have there been any good writeups on what exactly is wrong with him this year? I asked way earlier in the year and at the time it was just speculation about the pitch clock having him shaken but we've gotta be past that by now. I saw the chart earlier about how basically everything other than his fastball spinrate being worst in the league, but of course that's more symptom than disease. This seems like a good visual summation of what's going bad in his delivery right now. It looks like his body is almost freezing at the point of release. Also the main reason they're probably optioning him to rookie ball is so he can be at their huge training facility in Dunedin, Florida. If they optioned him to Triple A, he'd be in Buffalo. https://twitter.com/DownToBlack/status/1666097167336112130?t=PpFeE7ZlvjwSmFtaSW7icQ&s=19
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It's kind of insane how much talent is coming up right now. Eury Perez, Jordan Walker, Taj Bradley, Logan Allen, Bobby Miller, Francisco Alvarez, Ben Joyce... you could list a dozen more. The Reds are bringing up pretty much a whole new infield and rotation. Sure, some of these guys will bust, but it's really cool.
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Luigi Thirty posted:...has anyone been optioned straight to rookie ball before? I think he went MLB -> AAA -> rookie though so Manoah might be a first
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Luigi Thirty posted:...has anyone been optioned straight to rookie ball before? Roy Halladay
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Roy Halladay Really? I had no idea. (sincerely I just know of him from his Phillies stint)
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Hand Knit posted:I'm curious, have there been any good writeups on what exactly is wrong with him this year? I asked way earlier in the year and at the time it was just speculation about the pitch clock having him shaken but we've gotta be past that by now. I saw the chart earlier about how basically everything other than his fastball spinrate being worst in the league, but of course that's more symptom than disease. According to the Athletic Baseball Show, it's because he's fat. 20 mins on that topic zoux posted:Really? I had no idea. (sincerely I just know of him from his Phillies stint) He fell apart his second year and had to go back to square one
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deGrom needs Tommy John Sat his rear end out for over a month only to do it anyway Mets can officially laugh their asses off
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https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1666183937314414597?s=20 What a news day, jeez
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I'm shocked! Shocked! Well actually not that shocked.
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camoseven posted:https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1666183937314414597?s=20 Oh poo poo. Sorry Ranger fans
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Its Rinaldo posted:I'm shocked! Shocked! Well actually not that shocked. I’m only shocked this is his first one
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Shinjobi posted:deGrom needs Tommy John They also avoided Correa (who is doing bad)! Feel bad for the dude. Finally is on a good team and now this https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1666187482541723649?s=20
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camoseven posted:https://twitter.com/Evan_P_Grant/status/1666183937314414597?s=20 mets …smart?
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